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Stuart G

(38,527 posts)
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 10:17 AM Nov 2014

Goodell Lied, That is Why Rice was Reinstated, The media is playing it wrong..On purpose...

Rice told the truth at the first meeting, and Roger Goodell lied about it. It was not the terms of the suspension, it was the lie that the NFL Commissioner told to the league about what had transpired in the elevator...
.The headlines I have seen focused on the reinstatement, not the lie of Goodell. The lead should be about the liar. Clearly that should cost him his job, immediately..

Think Progress, and AP, to see the story, you need to scroll down a little:
http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014/11/28/3597559/judge-finds-goodells-story-was-a-lie-immediately-reinstates-ray-rice-to-nfl/
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Following the release of the video, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell claimed that Rice misled the league about what had transpired in the elevator. Goodell told CBS News that “when we met with Ray Rice and his representatives, it was ambiguous about what actually happened.” He said in a league letter that the video depicted an incident that was “starkly different” than the account relayed to him by Ray Rice.

Goodell said the “new information” in the video to justify revising Rice’s punishment and suspended him indefinitely.

But a federal judge, in an arbitration proceeding, rejected Goodell’s claims and found that Rice was truthful in the June proceeding. U.S. District Judge Barbara S. Jones found that “Rice did not mislead the Commissioner at the June 16th meeting, and therefore, that the imposition of a second suspension based on the same incident and the same known facts about the incident, was arbitrary.” Jones found that the Commissioner was not “fair or consistent” in his punishment. She also admonished the league for their failure to take domestic violence more seriously, prior to a public backlash.

ESPN personality Bill Simmons was suspended in October for calling Goodell “a liar.” Simmons claim, however, was backed up by ESPN’s own reporting and, now, a federal judge

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The New York Times, this morning, calls them "missteps"..in its headline this morning..(on the front page)
Sports of The Times ..He is a public liar, not a person who makes "missteps"
http://www.nytimes.com/
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Ray Rice Ruling Highlights Roger Goodell’s Missteps

By JULIET MACUR
An arbitrator’s overturning of Rice’s suspension put yet another crack in the credibility and authority of the N.F.L. commissioner.
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Ray Rice Wins Reinstatement to N.F.L. in Arbitration

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Goodell Lied, That is Why Rice was Reinstated, The media is playing it wrong..On purpose... (Original Post) Stuart G Nov 2014 OP
Further examination of Goodell's lie (Dave Zirin, The Nation) DinahMoeHum Nov 2014 #1
A retired federal judge, in an arbitrator role. nt Logical Nov 2014 #2
A deliberately botched prosecution - just like in Ferguson. bullwinkle428 Nov 2014 #3
I don't agree that this was deliberately botched. I've seen this happen rhett o rick Nov 2014 #4
The series of events may have been "botched by mistake", but he did deliberately lie.. Stuart G Nov 2014 #5
I don't know all signs are that the Jersey Prosecutor botched the case Johonny Nov 2014 #6

DinahMoeHum

(21,917 posts)
1. Further examination of Goodell's lie (Dave Zirin, The Nation)
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 10:49 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.thenation.com/blog/191649/savior-blues-ray-rice-can-play-and-roger-goodell-revealed-accomplice-abuse

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Now Ray Rice is looking for a team to sign him and Roger Goodell is exposed as a liar. He has also exposed himself to the world as someone who has flipped from being a domestic violence enabler to a self-proclaimed savior. By having an NFL that now says it will end the careers of those suspected of domestic abuse, Goodell has chosen to wear the incredibly ruinous “savior” hat—a hat that flows from the same logic of toxic masculinity that led to years of cover-ups of abuse. That means he has created a new revictimizing system that takes the power away from survivors about how to seize control of their own lives and map out a plan to be safe and end cycles of abuse. Instead, the power rests with Goodell to end the careers, the economic opportunities and the public lives of those suspected of abuse. This will not only disincentivize some survivors from coming forward; it could also create dangerous situations for those figuring out safety plans and strategies to leave abusive partners. The survivor needs to figure out—with assistance if desired—how to best remain safe: either by staying in or ending these relationships. That is not the job of Roger Goodell or the NFL. And frankly, given the track record of a man who continued a practice of covering up instances of domestic violence until the videotape was released, why would anyone trust Roger Goodell to save anyone or anything other than his own career?
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Goodell should step down as commissioner. He's become an embarrassment.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. I don't agree that this was deliberately botched. I've seen this happen
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 12:37 PM
Nov 2014

in my work experience. The bosses often react without listening to their councilors. They just want the situation to go away. So in this case the first action was a quick, sweep it under the rug. When exposed as inadequate, then over reaction follows. Often hubris gets in the way of common sense.

Stuart G

(38,527 posts)
5. The series of events may have been "botched by mistake", but he did deliberately lie..
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 03:32 PM
Nov 2014

Goodell needs to be fired immediately..(along with his entire staff that knew he lied, but that goes without saying)

Johonny

(21,195 posts)
6. I don't know all signs are that the Jersey Prosecutor botched the case
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 05:13 PM
Nov 2014

and everything trickled down from that. If Rice does real jail time instead of the program he was allowed into even though many prosecutors in the state said his case was not typically allowed to be entered into those programs... then he never gets the light suspension from the NFL. Heck he'd be in jail so it wouldn't matter.

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