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demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 11:50 AM Nov 2014

On Being a Black Male, Six Feet Four Inches Tall, in America in 2014

Source: Vanity Fair

Headline: Black Comedian, a Martial-Arts Expert Who Hated Cops, Fought with His Wife, and Was Clinically Depressed, Demonically Steals Frozen Treat From Local Merchant.




I am afraid of the cops. Absolutely petrified of the cops. Now understand, I’ve never been arrested or held for questioning. I’ve never been told that I “fit the description.” But that doesn’t change a thing. I am afraid of cops the way that spiders are afraid of boots. You’re walking along, minding your own business, and SQUISH! You are dead.

Simply put, I am afraid of the cops because I am black. To raise the stakes even further, I am male. And to go all in on this pot of fear, I am six foot four, and weigh 250 pounds. Michael Brown, the unarmed Missouri 18-year-old shot dead by police this summer, was also six foot four. Depending on your perspective, I could be described as a “gentle giant,” the way that teachers described Brown. Or I could be described as a “demon,” the way that Officer Darren Wilson described Michael Brown in his grand-jury testimony.

I don’t engage in any type of behavior that should place me in a cop’s crosshairs. I don’t live in “one of those neighborhoods,” or hang out with a “bad crowd,” (unless you count comedians). I am not involved in felonious activity. I’m not bragging. I’m just boring. But the fact that I’m not involved in any of that stuff doesn’t leave me any more confident I won’t be killed. That’s because I’ve been endowed with the triple crown of being killed for no good reason: big, black, and male.

On Monday night, I went out for ice cream at 12:30 A.M. I walked a while because I live in a pretty sleepy neighborhood in Berkeley, California. I had my hoodie up, because it was cold and it made it easier to listen to the podcast in my headphones. By the time I found a late-night convenience store, I had passed a few—by my eye—unsavory characters of all races. So, as I walked in the store I had to take some precautionary action. For starters, I took the hood down. I took it down even though my afro had become a flat-fro from being squashed underneath. I didn’t touch anything that I wasn’t absolutely sure I was going to buy. (Just like my mom had taught me.) I kept my hands out of my pockets with palms clearly visible so the clerk behind the counter could easily see that I wasn’t shoving things in—or maybe more importantly about to pull something out of—my pockets. And as soon as I decided on an It’s It ice-cream sandwich, I went directly to the counter and gingerly placed my selection down, again keeping my palms visible and only making the movements I needed to get the money out of my wallet.


Read more: http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/11/w-kamau-bell-black-in-america
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On Being a Black Male, Six Feet Four Inches Tall, in America in 2014 (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2014 OP
White privilege means never even having to think for a nano second about all of these things a black Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #1
ah well hfojvt Nov 2014 #2
Darrien Hunt gunned down by police for Walking While Black: Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #3
Your post reflects the same crap Giuliani spewed... Spazito Nov 2014 #4
Alert it or quit whining. nt Logical Nov 2014 #13
Pointing out the similarity between the post and what Giuliani spewed... Spazito Nov 2014 #18
typical of this one noiretextatique Nov 2014 #19
Yes, sadly, it is very typical... Spazito Nov 2014 #21
i agree noiretextatique Nov 2014 #37
+a fucking billion Number23 Nov 2014 #65
Way to belittle and degrade the experience that many black men experience in this country. demmiblue Nov 2014 #5
+1 HappyMe Nov 2014 #7
Unrelated subject treestar Nov 2014 #6
0-7 to LEAVE IT.n/t Autumn Nov 2014 #11
not surprising noiretextatique Nov 2014 #20
Actually, I kind of find it very surprising in light of his history here. demmiblue Nov 2014 #45
i've seen much worse noiretextatique Nov 2014 #48
I agree. This isn't the first hateful post from him, nor will it be the last. demmiblue Nov 2014 #53
likewise noiretextatique Nov 2014 #55
"Bad jury pool, perhaps." Number23 Nov 2014 #66
so, now you think you can tell a black man how he should feel about police noiretextatique Nov 2014 #16
Quoting statistics is "white privilege"? joeglow3 Nov 2014 #23
no...claiming to know how black men should or should not feel noiretextatique Nov 2014 #34
You are stretching it and you know it joeglow3 Nov 2014 #46
the HELL i am noiretextatique Nov 2014 #49
Statistically, he is right joeglow3 Nov 2014 #67
you are not a black male, are you? noiretextatique Nov 2014 #72
If you get on an airplane and find out that it's 20 times more likely to crash than a different one gollygee Nov 2014 #43
True. But I would still be more afraid of dying in a car than on a plane. joeglow3 Nov 2014 #47
Might be but its racist if they're taken out of context like this poster did.. black on black uponit7771 Nov 2014 #69
You know, hfojvt, Heidi Nov 2014 #24
so true Heidi , and he is actually throwing the "black on black" crime thing out to slyly justify bettyellen Nov 2014 #40
It sounds like gollygee Nov 2014 #44
he always does that noiretextatique Nov 2014 #51
another Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #26
I really can't fathom heaven05 Nov 2014 #29
You realize you're comparing cops to street thugs? Tsiyu Nov 2014 #30
And another thing Tsiyu Nov 2014 #36
Your racism is showing brightly!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #39
per usual eom noiretextatique Nov 2014 #52
Your first line is from a white supremacist meme of extracting black on black crime from any other uponit7771 Nov 2014 #68
good for you noiretextatique Nov 2014 #74
I'll tell you the difference jamzrockz Nov 2014 #76
Possibly worth noting that this is not a rational fear. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #8
Being shot by cops is only the tip of the iceberg starroute Nov 2014 #10
and you also believe you determine what fears are rational for a black man to have noiretextatique Nov 2014 #17
Not white privilege, just basic maths skills. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #22
One's amygdala knows shit about basic math skills. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #25
Absolutely. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #28
The dialogue is important Tsiyu Nov 2014 #32
white privilege noiretextatique Nov 2014 #35
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #58
you have the gall noiretextatique Nov 2014 #60
No, I claimed that fear of being shot by cops is irrational. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #62
really?! noiretextatique Nov 2014 #75
basic math skills, but 20X more likely eludes you? As if 20X more likely would not give anyone pause bettyellen Nov 2014 #41
You need to think about what "20x" means. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #57
that very much depends on the community and other factors....... bettyellen Nov 2014 #64
typical of what this heaven05 Nov 2014 #27
When young black men are 20 times more likely to be killed by cops than young white men, KitSileya Nov 2014 #38
+1000 gollygee Nov 2014 #42
i am a black female, i am scared of cops who stop me noiretextatique Nov 2014 #56
Absolutely true, but completely misleading. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #59
most fear are irrational, really noiretextatique Nov 2014 #61
Yes, absolutely. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #63
The disparate stats is the important part not that total number... uponit7771 Nov 2014 #70
my young, black nephew noiretextatique Nov 2014 #73
One of my adoptive grandsons is frogmarch Nov 2014 #9
First and foremost, what cutie pies! demmiblue Nov 2014 #12
Thank you, and frogmarch Nov 2014 #14
The piece is totally believable… MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #15
Cop shootings for November... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #31
k&r Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 #33
Ice T has said that cops were "the ultimate gang" when he was growing up Derek V Nov 2014 #50
BINGO... I lived in KC.. we walked 2 by 2 to protect ourselves from thugs with and without badges uponit7771 Nov 2014 #71
IMO, there really is only one way for white people to understand race privilege. Rex Nov 2014 #54

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. White privilege means never even having to think for a nano second about all of these things a black
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 12:41 PM
Nov 2014

person must think of, or die.

Every day.

That is white privilege, the article makes it clear.

.....................

"So, as I walked in the store I had to take some precautionary action. For starters, I took the hood down. I took it down even though my afro had become a flat-fro from being squashed underneath. I didn’t touch anything that I wasn’t absolutely sure I was going to buy. (Just like my mom had taught me.) I kept my hands out of my pockets with palms clearly visible so the clerk behind the counter could easily see that I wasn’t shoving things in—or maybe more importantly about to pull something out of—my pockets. And as soon as I decided on an It’s It ice-cream sandwich, I went directly to the counter and gingerly placed my selection down, again keeping my palms visible and only making the movements I needed to get the money out of my wallet."

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
2. ah well
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 12:53 PM
Nov 2014

no point in bringing up the fact that a young black male is far more likely to be killed by another young black male than he is to be killed by the cops.

But just try, just try, taking this sentence and replacing the word "cops" with "young black males".

"I am afraid of cops the way that spiders are afraid of boots. You’re walking along, minding your own business, and SQUISH! You are dead."

Consider Michael Brown. After he stole the cigars, he WAS walking along minding his own business, but he veered off THAT path a little bit when he decided to start hitting a cop.

Now Angel Hooper, a young black girl on the other side of the state? What was SHE doing before she got killed? "Angel and her father had stopped at the convenience store just after 7 p.m. for a pack of bubblegum after finishing a jog."

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article3080025.html#storylink=cpy

What, to consider another recent case, was 10 year old Machole Stewart doing when she was shot? Was she assaulting a police officer? Involved in a strong arm robbery?

"A relative said that Machole, who was always full of life and considered a natural comedian, was sitting on a couch when a hail of bullets was heard outside. Apparently thinking it was fireworks, Machole jumped off the couch and was struck once in the right side of the head by a bullet that came into the house."

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article3400274.html#storylink=cpy

She didn't even have to go OUT to get killed. She was just sitting at home watching TV, when SQUISH, she was killed by some young black males.

But yeah, it's cops who are scary and it just a distraction to mention Angel Hooper and Machole Stewart when the REAL issue, the REAL tragedy, is Michael Brown.

Not that I am saying young black males are scary. I work with them pretty much every day and see them on the street and at stores. The black guy I just hired is 6'4" and 260 and the black guy I just promoted is 6'2" and 220. (Neither of them, though, are particularly young (57 and 40). But if it's ridiculous to say that young black males are scary, and it is, it is even more ridiculous to say that cops are scary.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. Darrien Hunt gunned down by police for Walking While Black:
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 12:55 PM
Nov 2014


..............

Just released new video footage speaks for itself....a black man can not make the mistake of thinking they also have white privilege...it may be death.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/new-footage-shows-last-minutes-darrien

___________________________________

Your post indicates you do not want to understand.

Spazito

(50,329 posts)
18. Pointing out the similarity between the post and what Giuliani spewed...
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:10 PM
Nov 2014

is not whining and the post doesn't merit an alert as you well know.

Spazito

(50,329 posts)
21. Yes, sadly, it is very typical...
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:16 PM
Nov 2014

which is why, imo, the posts need to be challenged at every turn. It seems some see challenging posts like the one we are discussing is 'whining', an odd take to say the least, lol.

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
5. Way to belittle and degrade the experience that many black men experience in this country.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:04 PM
Nov 2014

Signed,

White female, five feet three inches tall, in America 2014.




treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. Unrelated subject
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:08 PM
Nov 2014

The person in the OP article should not have to be afraid of cops because of what other people do who happen to have the same skin color.

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
45. Actually, I kind of find it very surprising in light of his history here.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:41 PM
Nov 2014

Very few people here agree with this. Bad jury pool, perhaps.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
48. i've seen much worse
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:48 PM
Nov 2014

from this poster, and somehow he always seem to be given the benefit of doubt by juries. and he is not the only one.

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
53. I agree. This isn't the first hateful post from him, nor will it be the last.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:54 PM
Nov 2014

I find his continued presence here totally perplexing.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
66. "Bad jury pool, perhaps."
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:21 PM
Nov 2014

Well, judging by the one that announced the jury results, you're probably right.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
16. so, now you think you can tell a black man how he should feel about police
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:08 PM
Nov 2014

that's called white privilege.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
46. You are stretching it and you know it
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:46 PM
Nov 2014

Statistically, it is not rational for someone to be afraid to fly versus drive, as the odds are MUCH greater you will die on the road. What privilege am I demonstrating by telling people which they should fear more?

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
49. the HELL i am
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:48 PM
Nov 2014

HIS own words:

But if it's ridiculous to say that young black males are scary, and it is, it is even more ridiculous to say that cops are scary.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
67. Statistically, he is right
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 10:04 PM
Nov 2014

So, we are back to using science as your reasoning is irrational. When did we change to republican underground?

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
72. you are not a black male, are you?
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 01:58 AM
Nov 2014

Last edited Sun Nov 30, 2014, 03:27 AM - Edit history (3)

According to statistics, you have no idea what black men think or feel. Unless you have a white privilege crystal ball, your statistics mean jack. as i mentioned to the other psychic, feelings are rarely rational. and in the case of black males, most of them learned to fear police based on their experiences with police.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
43. If you get on an airplane and find out that it's 20 times more likely to crash than a different one
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 06:06 PM
Nov 2014

It'll mean something to you, even if the plane is still unlikely to crash.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
69. Might be but its racist if they're taken out of context like this poster did.. black on black
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 11:01 PM
Nov 2014

... crime and murder is no higher than white on white..

But racist like to extract black crime as if its different than white crime without caveat...

And there are plenty of people willing to believe them

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
24. You know, hfojvt,
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:29 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Sun Nov 30, 2014, 01:27 AM - Edit history (1)

you're not the center of the universe, nor is your experience with young, tall, black males. As ridiculous as you--a well-educated white man may find it--you know as well as I do that PLENTY of Americans find young, black men "scary." Young black men are killed for that reason. I would ask you to entertain the notion that your experience is not the _only_ experience. I, for example, am a hell of a lot more frightened of US cops than I am of young, black US males.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
40. so true Heidi , and he is actually throwing the "black on black" crime thing out to slyly justify
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 05:18 PM
Nov 2014

people's prejudices against the black community. He might as well be using the word demons. Same shit.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
44. It sounds like
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 06:09 PM
Nov 2014

"So long as black people are experiencing this kind of violence, they have no right to compain about this other kind of violence."

Bullshit. It's simply a way to dismiss concerns about police violence.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
29. I really can't fathom
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 03:05 PM
Nov 2014

the lack of some who can't see how transparent and obvious their deflections from the point are. You just aren't right in saying what you have written. You "work with 'them' black males pretty much every day", do you. I feel sorry for them. Way to go 'authority' figure on promoting "one of them".......

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
30. You realize you're comparing cops to street thugs?
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 03:05 PM
Nov 2014

Is that the bar these days?

"Well, the kids are all doing it, we cops should join right in!"

That's like me complaining about a dealership's master mechanic screwing up my car, and you bring up your Uncle Bob Shadetree who forgot to replace the oil cap that one time.

We expect more integrity, reason, restraint and training from law enforcement officers than we do from gangbangers.

Or, at least, some of us do.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
36. And another thing
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 03:53 PM
Nov 2014

your blithe "cops aren't scary! really, they're not!" reveals how easy your life has been cop wise.

Some are great, like this guy.



Some are more like this guy.



If you're not scared of this you prove your privilege, whatever it is.
( dude's a nut but story is interesting)


And this is just how irrational law enforcement has become. Campus cops aren't stopping rampant rape and assault on campuses, but have all the goddamned time in the world to arrest kids for petty crap. THAT is not rational.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
68. Your first line is from a white supremacist meme of extracting black on black crime from any other
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 11:00 PM
Nov 2014

... race on race crime...

I didn't read the rest of that bullshit

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
76. I'll tell you the difference
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 06:13 AM
Nov 2014

Black on black violence in form of gang violence is sorta expected. Everybody recognizes they are bad, nobody expects anything different from them. But with cops, we tax payers pay for their salary, we expect them to behave themselves around us and not act overly aggressive and trigger fingery.

Just imagine if out of a bottle of 100 tylenol you buy from the store, 3 will kill you if you take it. Now even if you rarely take tylenols and never been harmed by it. Its still very scary to know that something you need when you are sick and in need of help could be very dangerous to you.

I hope that makes sense to you. I encounter black people 100000x every years and nothing bad has ever happened to me, but I bet a 1000 bucks that if I encountered cops the same number of times, I would be dead by now.

That is the reason why people have this somewhat irrational fear of the cops

The video below is another good one why people fear the police.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
8. Possibly worth noting that this is not a rational fear.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:13 PM
Nov 2014

Kamau scrupulously presents this purely as a statement about his psychology, not about the world in which he lives, and I think that's fair enough - that may well be how he thinks.

But in case his audience aren't so careful, I think it's probably worth noting that his fear is clearly not rational.

Every year, out of 100,000 black men in the USA:

1 will be shot dead by a cop, most but by no means all of them criminals.
16 will be shot dead by people who are not cops (including suicides); again, criminals will be overrepresented, but much less so.
About 1000 will die in total.

So placing "being shot by the police" high among your list of fears, or avoiding it high among your motivations, is not rational, even if you are a young black man in the USA.

The fact that for white men the number is probably over 1 in 1000,000, possibly higher, certainly indicates room for improvement, but if you're thinking in terms of "bad things that might happen to me" rather than "social problems that should be fixed", "being shot by the police" should not get a look-in.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
10. Being shot by cops is only the tip of the iceberg
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:41 PM
Nov 2014

There's also being stopped and questioned for no good reason, being arrested for fitting a vague description ("tall black male in a hoodie&quot , or just being treated with suspicion and disrespect by store clerks.

It's also inappropriate to make fun of natural fears by citing statistics to portray them as "not rational." We all evolved in an environment where there might be predators waiting to jump out at us from behind the next bush, and we become very wary when those ancient survival instincts tell us we're in a potentially unsafe situation. (Alone, at night, not among friends.)

Can you deny that for black men the sphere of "unsafe" is much larger than it is for white men? For that matter, can you say honestly that if you had to walk through a black neighborhood, alone, at night, as a white person you wouldn't be feeling somewhat nervous?

If you can swear that you always react rationally in every situation, then you might have the right to criticize those who don't.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
17. and you also believe you determine what fears are rational for a black man to have
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:09 PM
Nov 2014

another case of white privilege.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
25. One's amygdala knows shit about basic math skills.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:52 PM
Nov 2014

Americans are more afraid of dying in an act of terror than they are of dying in a car. Based on the statistics, that's not rational.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
28. Absolutely.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:59 PM
Nov 2014

But I'm puzzled that you seem to think that you're disagreeing with me when you say that.

My point is that this fear, like many fears, is not rational, not that irrational fears are shameful or unusual - I have many.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
32. The dialogue is important
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 03:17 PM
Nov 2014

so why try to derail it by having only something blunt to say?

It's important for people to know how they are perceived. I know quite a few who imagine the world loves them and yet who are extremely judgmental. It damages their world to know people "disapprove" of them. They have all the right "things" and "opinions" to gain approval in their little scenes. They have no clue how much they hurt people.

But disapproval is how we learn right and wrong. Collectively we need to tell the wrong what's wrong. Everybody has to suck up sometime, but when you keep sucking up and you get kicked in the teeth, you lose your longstanding patience. Rationally or irrationally, depending on how long you've been losing teeth.

Nitpicking the reality someone else shares with you - for flaws, or to prove you're "on top of this" - is just mental masturbation.

What fears...


Response to noiretextatique (Reply #35)

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
60. you have the gall
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:27 PM
Nov 2014

to claim that black men's fear of cops are irrational? if it is not white privilege, what gives you this special insight?

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
75. really?!
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 03:36 AM
Nov 2014

how many black males need to be killed by cops before black men can fear being killed by cops, statically?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
41. basic math skills, but 20X more likely eludes you? As if 20X more likely would not give anyone pause
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 05:28 PM
Nov 2014

every single time they see a cop.

Their concerns - that they would be treated by the entire justice system much worse than anyone else in America- are very real, valid, and have a profound effect on their entire community.
It is not just concern about getting shot, and it's a very narrow and privileged POV to forget that so easily.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
57. You need to think about what "20x" means.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:14 PM
Nov 2014

20X is absolutely meaningless without defining what it is your multiplying by 20. My chance of being shot by a policeman *is* 20 times higher than some other number, just a very small number.

Likewise, the risk of being shot to death by a cop for a black man in America is 20 times a number, but it's still a very small number.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
64. that very much depends on the community and other factors.......
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:12 PM
Nov 2014

but it is part of a bigger picture, where so many things are 20X worse. It's just the proverbial cherry on top of a whole lot of other bad shit.
That context matters.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
27. typical of what this
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:59 PM
Nov 2014

last week has brought out what has been hiding in the sewers. I don't care if it's one in one million, most are still executions of unarmed black males by white authorities......

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
38. When young black men are 20 times more likely to be killed by cops than young white men,
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 03:56 PM
Nov 2014

I'd say it is 20 times more rational of young black men to fear cops than young white men do.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
56. i am a black female, i am scared of cops who stop me
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:08 PM
Nov 2014

i don't tremble every time i see a cop, but i am very nervous about being stopped. especially since cops mistake common things like keys, cell phones, id, and hands for guns, if you are black.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
70. The disparate stats is the important part not that total number...
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 11:17 PM
Nov 2014

... I could care less if it was literally 20 to 1... it's disgusting

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
73. my young, black nephew
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 02:08 AM
Nov 2014

Is leary of cops because of his experience with them. I do not believe he feel will differently because of some statstics claims posted by white men on the internet.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
9. One of my adoptive grandsons is
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:32 PM
Nov 2014

of mixed race and the other is black. Our family has been glued to the story, and yesterday my daughter-in-law said this in an email to me:

It angers me too. The racism that still exists scares me for my kids. Nick will some day be a very big black man who some people will fear before even knowing him.


Here’s a picture of Isaiah, 12, and Nick, 3, taken this past July. We all worry.

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
12. First and foremost, what cutie pies!
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:50 PM
Nov 2014

I feel for your family; y'all shouldn't have to even worry about this in 2014. None of us should.

I hope it gives your family some solace that there are many of us who stand with you.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
14. Thank you, and
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:59 PM
Nov 2014

it does help us to know there are many people who stand with us on this! My son and daughter-in-law have been following the story closely on DU and have been greatly encouraged by all the excellent posts by DUers.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
15. The piece is totally believable…
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:02 PM
Nov 2014

I know it, and likely everyone who reads is knows it deep inside. You don't have to be BBM.

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
50. Ice T has said that cops were "the ultimate gang" when he was growing up
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:50 PM
Nov 2014

Because they could kill without retribution.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
54. IMO, there really is only one way for white people to understand race privilege.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:56 PM
Nov 2014

Go live in another country where you are not only the minority, but a very small amount. You don't get treated the same and some places won't let you in if you are 'American' period. Live there at least a year or two. You'll notice the staring right away.

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