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Derek V

(532 posts)
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:26 AM Dec 2014

Our Mirror is Dead: a Eulogy for Stephen Colbert

(Edited from original version.)

The man, of course, will live on, taking over The Late Show from David Letterman next year. But the host of The Colbert Report no longer exists, and that is a tragedy for our country.

Jon Stewart of The Daily Show is, to be certain, a valuable national asset who, four nights a week, provides a valuable service to America. But Stewart is a gatherer and transmitter: He absorbs, in a very gifted way few others can match, the national zeitgeist, then coalesces it into a very coherent, very funny message, which is then broadcast to the nation. Jon Stewart tells us what's going on.

Not Colbert. Instead, through irony, satire and, yes, deliberate sarcasm. he showed us what we're doing as a people. For nearly a decade now, the cipher named Stephen Colbert, created by the artist named Stephen Colbert, has been our collective national mirror.

In Oliver Stone's Nixon, there's a scene late in the movie that I find myself reminded of: The Supreme Court has just ruled against him, and the House Panel has just voted Articles of Impeachment. The now-disgraced President, with a drink in his hand, gazes at the portrait of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, who bested him in electoral battle, and continues to do so in the hearts of most Americans. Speaking directy to the portrait of his handsome, beloved predecessor, Sir Anthony Hopkins, in the title role, delivers one of the most searing lines in the history of cinema:

"When they look at you," says the half-drunk President, "they see what they'd like to be. When they look at me, they see what they are."

It is precisely this kind of scathing self-reflection that The Colbert Report has been providing to this country lo these many years. TCR never once flinched from showing America to America. This service will be sorely missed.

Derek Vanderxxxxxx

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Our Mirror is Dead: a Eulogy for Stephen Colbert (Original Post) Derek V Dec 2014 OP
Yes, The Colbert Report will be missed so much! However, it's going to be so Cha Dec 2014 #1
I hope you're right, my friend Derek V Dec 2014 #17
Hi Cha! Avalux Dec 2014 #45
Aloha Avalux! Pics of some of the last Colbert "truthiness" @George Washington University.. Cha Dec 2014 #53
It's Like Waking From A Dream billhicks76 Dec 2014 #65
We are losing a treasure in The Colbert Report. TNNurse Dec 2014 #2
Carson got more punditly in his later years too... pipoman Dec 2014 #3
Might I ask a personal question, TNNurse? Derek V Dec 2014 #19
Derek..that is pic of Molly Ivins. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #21
Molly Ivins was badass Derek V Dec 2014 #23
I loved that quote, she was brilliant. TNNurse Dec 2014 #42
How kind, Derek. TNNurse Dec 2014 #41
Yeah. Sure! Derek V Dec 2014 #46
Extremely well written post. Feral Child Dec 2014 #4
Thank you! Derek V Dec 2014 #24
Cool! Feral Child Dec 2014 #27
The grand, sum total I've been paid thus far? Derek V Dec 2014 #47
The PTB will make Colbert tone down his satire and sarcasm. Hotler Dec 2014 #5
A good night's sleep can often make you feel better. randome Dec 2014 #6
Hi Hotier, I am not disputing your post...you are probably right... onecent Dec 2014 #8
Exactly, he does grow on you. I too wasn't an early fan mountain grammy Dec 2014 #11
Again, I hope you all are right Derek V Dec 2014 #25
Notice how those same PTB effectively muzzled Colbert at the WH Correspondent's Dinner in 2006 derby378 Dec 2014 #16
^^^ This ^^^^ SalviaBlue Dec 2014 #32
That was one of the most beautiful tings I have ever seen. arcane1 Dec 2014 #35
A thing of beauty and a joy forever, that was! colorado_ufo Dec 2014 #63
Not to worry. Cleita Dec 2014 #34
Excellent post! City Lights Dec 2014 #7
Let's hope that bursting continues Derek V Dec 2014 #48
Best thing is... freebrew Dec 2014 #9
Satirical Truth Telling matelize Dec 2014 #10
Meantime, he's in DC this week and will host President Obama tonight.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #12
Really? I did not know that.. mahalo mountain grammy Cha Dec 2014 #15
'The King is dead'; greiner3 Dec 2014 #13
I'm sure he'll give an occasional nod bvf Dec 2014 #14
. Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #18
I am sick I missed the Kennedy honors show...PBS, I assume. Anyone know where I onecent Dec 2014 #20
It airs on Dec. 30 mcar Dec 2014 #26
Thank you so much...usually on PBS. Public Broadcasting. Thanks! onecent Dec 2014 #44
…it will still be Stephen Colbert librechik Dec 2014 #22
I think he will, too, but we won't recognize him once he settles in. randome Dec 2014 #39
can't wait! librechik Dec 2014 #43
As much as I am sad that we'll no longer have the Colbert Report.. Initech Dec 2014 #28
Good article Lolita46 Dec 2014 #29
It's not an article n/t arcane1 Dec 2014 #36
No article? Lolita46 Dec 2014 #37
It's a post. It is what it is. arcane1 Dec 2014 #38
Know it's a post. Just want the link. Lolita46 Dec 2014 #50
It's from Derek V's mind :) arcane1 Dec 2014 #51
Oh. Okay. Lolita46 Dec 2014 #52
Yes, he will be missed, sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #30
A hearty welcome to DU, Derek V! Octafish Dec 2014 #31
eh..... brooklynite Dec 2014 #33
Uh, brooklynite? Derek V Dec 2014 #55
I know, but since O'Reilly can't be taken seriously to begin with, what the point of satirizing him? brooklynite Dec 2014 #58
Is that why Obama agreed to interviews with O'Reilly... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #59
Great OP!! Inkfreak Dec 2014 #40
Thank you! Derek V Dec 2014 #66
To this day, there are wingnuts who believe that Colbert is one of them! KamaAina Dec 2014 #49
"When they look at me, they see what they are" is the perfect analogy for Colbert's CR persona. pacalo Dec 2014 #54
I truly appreciate your very kind words Derek V Dec 2014 #67
Keep posting because outside-the-box OPs are particularly appreciated. pacalo Dec 2014 #68
I so seriously hope he'll revisit the character somehow. NO ONE does satire like him, and no one has annabanana Dec 2014 #56
I hope he has Lewis Black on. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2014 #57
"...a tragedy for our country." cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #60
Extremely perceptive take on the man Samantha Dec 2014 #61
Looking forward to when you can do the same for FOX "News". Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #62
Colbert is not taking over for Letterman next month. TeamPooka Dec 2014 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Derek V Dec 2014 #69
Kicked After Edit Derek V Dec 2014 #70

Cha

(297,595 posts)
1. Yes, The Colbert Report will be missed so much! However, it's going to be so
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:37 AM
Dec 2014

Interesting to see him as the host of The Late Night Show.. I can't even believe that's happening!

Our country is fortunate that Letterman has been a good voice for Democracy in his Late Night venue all these years.. and we've lucked out again with Stephen Colbert.

Thanks Derek V We'll see if his Colbert Report seeps into his Late Night Show.

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
17. I hope you're right, my friend
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:37 AM
Dec 2014

But broadcast networks are even more damn corporate than cable ones.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
45. Hi Cha!
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:15 PM
Dec 2014

I agree with you that it will be interesting, but I will miss the persona he created with The Colbert Report. As host of the Late Show he will most likely be himself, without the "truthiness" lol. We'll have to see what happens. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised!

Cha

(297,595 posts)
53. Aloha Avalux! Pics of some of the last Colbert "truthiness" @George Washington University..
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:22 PM
Dec 2014

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http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/08/chat-away-459/



http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/08/the-presidents-day-26/

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
65. It's Like Waking From A Dream
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:26 AM
Dec 2014

Having something coming to an end that we wanted to last forever. BUT maybe it's part of the metamorphosis. He won't be in character any longer but if he is an obvious liberal now and not a liberal pretending to be a faux news smug fool maybe it will burst the bubble of some of the idiots that never caught on to the act. Believe it or not some still don't get it so this can be a nice, natural transition.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
2. We are losing a treasure in The Colbert Report.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:52 AM
Dec 2014

However, over the last few years, Letterman began to speak up with opinions, sort of like Jack Paar (Telling my age there). To have such a voice again on a major network is a good idea. I believe Stephen Colbert can fill that roll. He can entertain, interview and also speak his mind. Oh, how I hope he speaks his mind.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
3. Carson got more punditly in his later years too...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:10 AM
Dec 2014

My problem is that I really don't find political satire/comedy very funny regardless the political bent of the comedy. At best it sometimes makes me smile, almost never actually a laugh.

I grew up with Letterman. Loving him on Carson's show, then in the 80's watching him every night while falling asleep. I remember belly laughing while watching. ..Larry Bud Melman, and the host of bit actors....just the comedy in general, always some political satire, but not the whole monolog. I haven't watched with any regularity for at least a decade when the show went wildly political. ..again, it isn't that i disagree with his politics, just don't find it that funny..

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
19. Might I ask a personal question, TNNurse?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:29 PM
Dec 2014

In going over the preprovided avatars here, I haven't seen (or must have missed) yours, which I've now observed in various threads.

Is that actually you in that photo? If so, I hope you'll allow a 49-year-old Danish-American boy to say, "You're a cutie!"

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
23. Molly Ivins was badass
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:10 PM
Dec 2014

I still remember when Pat Buchanan (why on Earth is he still on the McLaughlin Group???) gave his "cultural war" speech at the 1992 GOP convention. She was asked what she thought of the speech and she replied, "I liked it better in the original German." You probably already know that, but I just thought I'd mention it anyway.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
41. How kind, Derek.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 03:48 PM
Dec 2014

I wish Molly Ivins was still around to read what you said about HER photo. She was a woman I admired greatly. I am a white haired 65 yo woman.... not been called a cutie in quite awhile.

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
24. Thank you!
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:44 PM
Dec 2014

I've never written any nonfiction professionally, but have written (and been paid for) a few pieces of short fiction.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
27. Cool!
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:51 PM
Dec 2014

I got a note-length article published in an academic journal once. I doubt it was read by a Multitude, probably only a casual scanning by a few folks specifically interested in the subject, which was quite obscure.

An actual pay-check published piece is very cool.

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
47. The grand, sum total I've been paid thus far?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 06:33 PM
Dec 2014

$316.80

Still, it's nice to be able to say I'm officially a pro.

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
5. The PTB will make Colbert tone down his satire and sarcasm.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:50 AM
Dec 2014

He has his money and that is all that matters.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. A good night's sleep can often make you feel better.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:56 AM
Dec 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

onecent

(6,096 posts)
8. Hi Hotier, I am not disputing your post...you are probably right...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:01 AM
Dec 2014

however, I have a strange and good feeling about this change. Colbert is difficult to ignore....he really is a master...and the best part is he doesn't give a shit what anyone cares about him..and that's one reason I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. If he doesn't like it, I am sure Jon will take him back in a heartbeat!!!!

And the best part is, "Colblert GROWS ON YOU"....I wasn't impressed at first, but now I see how ridiculous some of his stuff is and YOU CANNOT HELP BUT almost become mystified by the genius in him.

I also think there is no one YET to follow Carson....but I believe Colbert will do this job and I cannot wait!!!!

I suspect when he takes over the Letterman show he will be a force to be reckoned with..at least I hope so. I don't think there is anyone that can make Colbert just change like that....
Hugs to you

mountain grammy

(26,646 posts)
11. Exactly, he does grow on you. I too wasn't an early fan
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:38 AM
Dec 2014

but soon caught on. The man's a genius. I think Stephen is far beyond Carson and more on par with the great Jack Parr (sorry, I couldn't resist.)
I am looking forward to Larry Wilmore's new show and will continue to be a faithful Colbert watcher!

derby378

(30,252 posts)
16. Notice how those same PTB effectively muzzled Colbert at the WH Correspondent's Dinner in 2006
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:36 AM
Dec 2014

As in, no, they didn't. Colbert skewered The Decider right there on the podium only feet away from Bush, and the Secret Service never bundled him away.

Glorious.

SalviaBlue

(2,918 posts)
32. ^^^ This ^^^^
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:23 PM
Dec 2014

I agree, derby378, they will never know what hit them. I know people that thought he was a real republican when his show first started.

Colbert's brilliance goes right over their head.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
35. That was one of the most beautiful tings I have ever seen.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:51 PM
Dec 2014

I may have to watch it again tonight

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
34. Not to worry.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:46 PM
Dec 2014

He'll get his point across while the PTB think he's propping them up.

I know many a Fox News Kool-Aid drinker who love Steve. They don't realize he's making fun of them with his sly delivery.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
7. Excellent post!
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:01 AM
Dec 2014
The Colbert Report will be sorely missed in my house. Best of luck to Stephen though. He is bursting with talent.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
9. Best thing is...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:21 AM
Dec 2014

I get to see him again!

I've been strictly airwaves for 3 years now.
Only satellite interwebs, not TV.
I use my assigned bandwidth for Jon and here(DU).

Can't wait.

matelize

(19 posts)
10. Satirical Truth Telling
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:36 AM
Dec 2014

Stephen Colbert is a true genius. He was always able to tear away the facade, and make us think about all the warts on our Nation. I will miss the Colbert Report, but know he will do a great job hosting The Late Show. I' m Looking forward to the show tonight from Washington. It should be interesting to watch the banter between him and the President.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
14. I'm sure he'll give an occasional nod
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:09 AM
Dec 2014

to his nation in his new gig.

He may have to fly below the corporate radar (how far probably depends on his contracts) to do so, but solid fans will see it, I'm sure.

He and his writers were wily enough in the first few years of TCR to garner some conservative fans even as it was openly mocking them.

Glad to see him about to reach a much wider audience, but I'll miss TCR.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
20. I am sick I missed the Kennedy honors show...PBS, I assume. Anyone know where I
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:43 PM
Dec 2014

can get a repeat of this?
Thanks

mcar

(42,372 posts)
26. It airs on Dec. 30
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:49 PM
Dec 2014

They always air it the week between Christmas and New Year's. Don't know what network.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
22. …it will still be Stephen Colbert
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:00 PM
Dec 2014

the leopard doesn't change his spots. He will still NAIL hypocrisy and get away with it, because he's adorable.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
39. I think he will, too, but we won't recognize him once he settles in.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 03:08 PM
Dec 2014

He will be closer to the 'real' Colbert, someone we've seen very little of.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

Initech

(100,100 posts)
28. As much as I am sad that we'll no longer have the Colbert Report..
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:54 PM
Dec 2014

I am very interested to see what he will be bringing to the Late Show table. I wonder if he'll be allowed to bring any of the same material like Prescott Pharmaceuticals with him.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
30. Yes, he will be missed,
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:13 PM
Dec 2014

but I can understand that he might want to broaden the role he
plays. After 9 years he deserves a bigger audience and a change.

I forgot the name of the person, who will take over that time
slot, but he seems to have enough humor as well as sarcasm
to give us a good show as well from a somewhat different
perspective.

We will see.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
31. A hearty welcome to DU, Derek V!
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:13 PM
Dec 2014

Thanks to the great DUer MinM, an important scene missing from Nixon, Tricky Dick visits CIA and Richard Helms:



Helms portrayal may've been more symbolic than the director wanted, so it got edited out from general release, unfortunately.

brooklynite

(94,723 posts)
33. eh.....
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 02:31 PM
Dec 2014

Never found him that appealing. In my opinion, there's no value in satirizing someone who's effectively a satire already.

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
55. Uh, brooklynite?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:51 PM
Dec 2014

That's. The Whole. Damn Point. The Colbert Report is, IN ITS ENTIRETY, a sarcastic joke! Okay?

brooklynite

(94,723 posts)
58. I know, but since O'Reilly can't be taken seriously to begin with, what the point of satirizing him?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:03 PM
Dec 2014

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
59. Is that why Obama agreed to interviews with O'Reilly...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:36 PM
Dec 2014

because he can't be taken seriously? What level chess is that?

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
54. "When they look at me, they see what they are" is the perfect analogy for Colbert's CR persona.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:52 PM
Dec 2014

Outstanding OP!

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
67. I truly appreciate your very kind words
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 08:06 PM
Dec 2014

I am a marginally-successful writer of short fiction, having had published (and been paid for) three stories, with a fourth in a literary mag (translation: no payment).

In writing this "editorial" piece, I tried to pour the same dedication into how I used the words to express myself as I have via fiction, and am very honered to see that you thought of it so highly.



pacalo

(24,721 posts)
68. Keep posting because outside-the-box OPs are particularly appreciated.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 08:16 PM
Dec 2014

I'm not surprised to learn you're a writer; I can see that you have a talent for original thought & for expressing yourself well.

I loved your OP.



annabanana

(52,791 posts)
56. I so seriously hope he'll revisit the character somehow. NO ONE does satire like him, and no one has
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:57 PM
Dec 2014

since Jonathan Swift.

The skill with which he wields that scalpel fillets his opponents while they think he's complimenting them. Heady stuff...

Perhaps he'll bring "Stephen Colbert" back as a formidable opponent..

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
57. I hope he has Lewis Black on.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:01 PM
Dec 2014

Because i love Lewis Black and he's on The Daily Show sometimes.

Lewis Black can appear on a TV show and not drop f-bombs every fifteen seconds. I've seen him do it on Rachel's show.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
60. "...a tragedy for our country."
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:17 AM
Dec 2014

Um, no. Lots of things can be seen as tragic, but to call Colbert's move "tragic" is simple hyperbole.

TeamPooka

(24,253 posts)
64. Colbert is not taking over for Letterman next month.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 05:07 AM
Dec 2014

Letterman's last day has not been chosen or announced yet so Colbert's start date on CBS is yet to be announced too.
It will be sometime in 2015 but we don't know if will be in Feb, June or Sept. yet.

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