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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:25 PM Dec 2014

Passenger on plane removed by secuirty after flipping out when attendant said "Merry Christmas"

A passenger was tossed off a plane at La Guardia Airport on Tuesday after flipping out — because airline workers wished him a merry Christmas.

The man was waiting to board American Airlines Flight 1140 to Dallas when a cheerful gate agent began welcoming everyone with the Yuletide greeting while checking boarding passes.

The grumpy passenger, who appeared to be traveling alone, barked at the woman, “You shouldn’t say that because not everyone celebrates Christmas.”

The agent replied, “Well, what should I say then?”

“Don’t say, ‘Merry Christmas!’?” the man shouted before brushing past her.

Once on the plane, he was warmly greeted by a flight attendant who also wished him a “merry Christmas.” That was the last straw.

“Don’t say, ‘Merry Christmas!’?” the man raged before lecturing the attendants and the pilot about their faux pas.


https://www.yahoo.com/travel/plane-passenger-tossed-after-flipping-out-over-106144235462.html

The pilot asked the man repeatedly to calm down, but he refused.

Airport security then showed up. Other passengers cheered and applauded as security removed him from the plane.
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Passenger on plane removed by secuirty after flipping out when attendant said "Merry Christmas" (Original Post) davidn3600 Dec 2014 OP
Deserved chickenfairy Dec 2014 #1
A casualty of the faux war on Christmas - but LiberalElite Dec 2014 #2
isn't that pic the planes that recently bumped into each other? Skittles Dec 2014 #3
Way to be an asshole... bobclark86 Dec 2014 #4
drunk p eople also. elehhhhna Dec 2014 #8
ExFreakingZactly! Thank you, Bob. Cha Dec 2014 #10
Has anyone ever wished a white person Happy Kwanzaa? oberliner Dec 2014 #13
I'm white and I've been wished Happy Kwanzaa. n/t Ms. Toad Dec 2014 #40
I got wished a happy kwanzaa by an atheist friend--who also wished me merry christmas, happy niyad Dec 2014 #59
Was his first name Sean?... n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #5
would have ignored both completely Ramses Dec 2014 #6
A New York Post article from an anonymous source... Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #7
People seem to be ignoring this fact oberliner Dec 2014 #17
Those are all good questions Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #20
An entire conversation is transcribed and no one is named oberliner Dec 2014 #27
come on man, no one is saying it was you shaayecanaan Dec 2014 #47
What? oberliner Dec 2014 #49
Yep. The only people I see flipping out are the ones DEMANDING others say Marr Dec 2014 #52
I have never heard a single person get upset about Merry Christmas either Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #53
It happens. Ask anyone who works retail. joeglow3 Dec 2014 #54
Well if it happened the New York Post should provide the recording Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #55
When I worked retail the reverse was much more common. Mariana Dec 2014 #66
As I was reading this, AwakeAtLast Dec 2014 #58
He could have just said "you too" and moved on... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #9
I wondered if it was a DUer lol. cwydro Dec 2014 #11
Which I have never understood why people get so bent over. I mean ya I have had a horrible year cstanleytech Dec 2014 #22
Same here MissDeeds Dec 2014 #26
Thank you and the same to you as well. nt cstanleytech Dec 2014 #28
Why? maced666 Dec 2014 #33
He could have said "bah humbug" and moved on.. but, NOOOOOOOOO.. he had to get himself Cha Dec 2014 #12
Story is most likely BS oberliner Dec 2014 #14
It's such a "cool story bro" Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #18
Yeah - no one is named at all oberliner Dec 2014 #24
Why assume the jackass is left wing? maced666 Dec 2014 #31
Not assuming anything other than the dubious nature of the NY Post oberliner Dec 2014 #32
Fake stories don't generally name the airline, the day and the actual flight number (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #37
How did they come across the story? oberliner Dec 2014 #41
I googled the incident and the NY Post seems to be the only source, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2014 #51
Dumbassery on holiday display SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2014 #15
As an atheist, this guy was an idiot. nt Logical Dec 2014 #16
Ditto! Takket Dec 2014 #25
What an idiot. Texasgal Dec 2014 #19
He should be grateful he wasn't removed at 25,000 feet. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2014 #21
the employees of Air Crandall have a dim view of their customers quadrature Dec 2014 #23
Passengers cheered lol maced666 Dec 2014 #29
where was mr. scrooge headed on christmas day? spanone Dec 2014 #30
What a dumbass thing to flip out over Warpy Dec 2014 #34
Stupid to flip out (if this really occurred). Also, poor training on part of the airline. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #35
Ummm.... "Merry Christmas" is not a "religious wish". Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #36
You're wishing people to clebrate and enjoy a holiday HERVEPA Dec 2014 #38
And the origin of Thanksgiving was the Pilgrims thanking God for a bountiful harvest. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #42
I wasn't discusing Thanksgiving. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #44
You were discussing a religious holiday, whathehell Dec 2014 #46
Iwas discussing Christmas. I made no mention of how I felt about Thanksgiving, which has a much HERVEPA Dec 2014 #48
Fine, then WE were discussing Thanksgiving whathehell Dec 2014 #57
I think the onus is on the perpetually offended to remove the stick from their ass. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #45
You'd Be Right If This Were 1920 ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #62
What an asshole.... blackspade Dec 2014 #39
I'm glad assholes like him will remain forever in the minority. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #43
I was at a meeting last week where two republicans flipped out when Zorra Dec 2014 #50
I am not a Christian Marrah_G Dec 2014 #56
Oh, that zany Richard Dawkins. Won't he ever learn? Orrex Dec 2014 #60
What A Tool! ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #61
I had a lot of people greet me with Merry Christmas yesterday, as a Jew I replied dilby Dec 2014 #63
Jesus, Santa, next time just take a dramaine like you did last year. randome Dec 2014 #64
Passenger Identified... yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #65

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
2. A casualty of the faux war on Christmas - but
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:28 PM
Dec 2014

he should have just calmed down. It isn't worth having security involved.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
4. Way to be an asshole...
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:29 PM
Dec 2014

(With apologies to who I stole this from about a month ago...)



There are two kinds people who cause scenes on airplanes: Terrorists and assholes. Both are removed for the same reason -- nobody wants to be locked in a giant tin can for six hours with them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. Has anyone ever wished a white person Happy Kwanzaa?
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:31 PM
Dec 2014

I mean in a not trying to be funny sort of context.

niyad

(113,344 posts)
59. I got wished a happy kwanzaa by an atheist friend--who also wished me merry christmas, happy
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 03:03 PM
Dec 2014

holidays, and whatever else I celebrated.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
7. A New York Post article from an anonymous source...
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:51 PM
Dec 2014

Yeah, I am questioning whether this really happened. The New York Post has about as much credibility as Rush Limbaugh.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. People seem to be ignoring this fact
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:39 PM
Dec 2014

Also, the passenger is not named. No flight attendant is named. No other named passenger quoted. And three reporters listed on the story. So what exactly was their source? How did they come to get this information? Were the reporters at the airport? Did they get it from someone who was in line? From one of the AA employees? Why is no one on record?

Pretty sure the whole thing is made up or at least not what it appears.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
20. Those are all good questions
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:45 PM
Dec 2014

It looks like exactly the type of story the New York Post would love to run on Christmas and when they don't name a single source that people can cross check it would be very easy for them to make a story like this up.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. An entire conversation is transcribed and no one is named
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:40 PM
Dec 2014

How do these reporters know what was said?

They don't claim to have spoken to anyone present. Not even "on condition of anonymity".

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
47. come on man, no one is saying it was you
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:26 AM
Dec 2014

You don't even live in Dallas, I'm pretty sure.

Probably a bullshit story though. Most cabin crew won't say merry Xmas, they've been trained to be as anodyne as possible. Two in a row sounds unlikely, I will grant you.

Eid Mubarak and a happy new year, you old bastard.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
49. What?
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:45 AM
Dec 2014

I'm just saying there are elements of the story that seem a little dubious.

I don't understand your response.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
52. Yep. The only people I see flipping out are the ones DEMANDING others say
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 01:13 AM
Dec 2014

"merry Christmas" rather than "happy holidays".

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
53. I have never heard a single person get upset about Merry Christmas either
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 01:23 AM
Dec 2014

I have however heard right-wing religious zealots insist that there is a war on Christmas and they insist there are huge numbers of progressives who are trying to ban the words "Merry Christmas". The type of people who believe that crap are the same type of people who read the New York Post, their target audience eats this crap up. Given the New York Post's reputation and their lack of named sources I am pretty sure this story is either completely false or lacking key context.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
54. It happens. Ask anyone who works retail.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 01:29 AM
Dec 2014

Granted, it was 20 years ago, but I would wish people a merry christmas and i had 2 or 3 people get shitty with me.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
55. Well if it happened the New York Post should provide the recording
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 01:36 AM
Dec 2014

If they were able to transcribe that much text without being at the scene then there must be a recording, you can't accurately transcribe an entire conversation based on a second hand source. If the New York Post wants me to believe this they should prove it by releasing audio.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
66. When I worked retail the reverse was much more common.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 05:16 PM
Dec 2014

People would get pissed off if you didn't say Merry Christmas. You didn't even have to say Happy Holidays, if you just said a generic Thank You For Shopping At XYZ Store during the month of December there were people who would snarl Merry CHRISTmas! at you. I have never understood some people's need to have strangers acknowledge their particular holiday.

I do understand how people get annoyed with it. With the Christmas crap and the music and all starting in October now, everyone hears it hundreds of times. Often it's insincere, from people who are made to say it by their employers, and who don't really give a fuck about you and your holiday. It can get old, even for people who do celebrate Christmas.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
11. I wondered if it was a DUer lol.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:07 PM
Dec 2014

We had a thread right before Christmas where someone got their knickers all twisted about a retail clerk saying "Merry Christmas" to him/her.

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
22. Which I have never understood why people get so bent over. I mean ya I have had a horrible year
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:07 PM
Dec 2014

with my mother dying in June and I didnt even bother putting up a tree this year because I just couldnt get in the mood even though this was her favorite holiday but I dont get bent like this guy allegedly did over it.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
26. Same here
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:39 PM
Dec 2014

My mom died in October and I could not get into the mood this year. My husband put up the tree and we put lights on it - period. We spent the day alone. It was kind of awful. That said, I still enjoyed hearing people saying "Merry Christmas".

So sorry about the loss of your mom, cstanleytech. Hope next year will be better for you.

Cha

(297,318 posts)
12. He could have said "bah humbug" and moved on.. but, NOOOOOOOOO.. he had to get himself
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:07 PM
Dec 2014

thrown off the plane. Merry Christmas idiot.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Yeah - no one is named at all
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:33 PM
Dec 2014

How did the three NY Post reporters identified as the writers happen to come across this story, I wonder.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
32. Not assuming anything other than the dubious nature of the NY Post
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:48 PM
Dec 2014

The NY Post is a right wing tabloid rag.

This article has not a single named person cited.

How exactly did these reporters come across this incident?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. How did they come across the story?
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:11 AM
Dec 2014

Did 3 NY Post reporters happen to be hanging around the American Airlines terminal in the boarding area for a flight to Dallas?

If not, how is it that they came to know the exact words exchanged between these two people - neither the flight attendant nor the passenger is named and nothing in the story indicates that they were interviewed by any of the reporters.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
51. I googled the incident and the NY Post seems to be the only source,
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 01:07 AM
Dec 2014

though the story was picked up from the Post by a couple other papers. If it happened, the guy was an asshole; but I'd like to see some confirmation from another source. You'd think other passengers might talk about the incident with other news outlets?

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
19. What an idiot.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:45 PM
Dec 2014

Fuck him! Get over it.

*not a christian here but just annoyed by this whole "merry christmas issue".

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
23. the employees of Air Crandall have a dim view of their customers
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:10 PM
Dec 2014

referring to them as,
self loading freight,
animals
or something similar.

you have been warned.
you will go to jail.
not them

 

maced666

(771 posts)
29. Passengers cheered lol
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:44 PM
Dec 2014

What a wonderful Christmas story! Oh well, maybe he will learn a lesson in tolerance but I doubt it. Miserable people usually look for ways to stay miserable and easily find a way and succeed. Once there, they try to drag others down as well and fail- miserably.

Warpy

(111,276 posts)
34. What a dumbass thing to flip out over
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:51 PM
Dec 2014

If it's Christmas, that's what people are going to say. Otherwise, you might get a "Happy Holidays" but don't bet on it.

If I ended up with a pulmonary embolus from being crammed into a cattle class seat behind some jackass who not only reclined, but spent the flight bucking back and forth to get it to recline more, I would be as cranky as being near death would allow me.

A seasonal greeting wouldn't do it.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
35. Stupid to flip out (if this really occurred). Also, poor training on part of the airline.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:03 AM
Dec 2014

You're in a service business, you don't send a religious wish (yes, it IS a religious holiday), to people who might not be religious, or members of that religion.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
36. Ummm.... "Merry Christmas" is not a "religious wish".
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:07 AM
Dec 2014

Many people celebrate, and are merry on, Christmas Day, without observing the religious aspect of it.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
38. You're wishing people to clebrate and enjoy a holiday
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:09 AM
Dec 2014

which exists because someone who people think is the son of god (whatever that means) was allegedly born that day.
So, you're wrong, it's religious.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
42. And the origin of Thanksgiving was the Pilgrims thanking God for a bountiful harvest.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:12 AM
Dec 2014

So by your logic, Thanksgiving is also a religious holiday and "Happy Thanksgiving" is verboten.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
48. Iwas discussing Christmas. I made no mention of how I felt about Thanksgiving, which has a much
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:38 AM
Dec 2014

religious connection.
Genug. I'm done with this.
Sorry for my part in the War on Christmas.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
57. Fine, then WE were discussing Thanksgiving
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 06:36 AM
Dec 2014

which while having a lesser religious implication, still contains a religious reference.

Apology accepted, by the way.



 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
45. I think the onus is on the perpetually offended to remove the stick from their ass.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:17 AM
Dec 2014

I'm an atheist and welcome all religious wishes of goodwill.

I also celebrate Christmas. It's actually a pretty secular holiday compared to other religious observances. I've been celebrating for two days with family and didn't hear "Jesus" one time.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
50. I was at a meeting last week where two republicans flipped out when
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:59 AM
Dec 2014

another republican kindly and respectfully wished everyone "Happy Holidays". They got all upset and said "oh, no, the heck with that, MERRY CHRISTMAS!".

Happy Solstice


Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
56. I am not a Christian
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 04:03 AM
Dec 2014

I don't care what holiday someone wishes me well on..... the well wishes and kind thoughts are the point.

When I was young I used to get far more upset over things I just live with now.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
63. I had a lot of people greet me with Merry Christmas yesterday, as a Jew I replied
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 04:32 PM
Dec 2014

Merry Christmas right back at them. I also sent some of my good friends who are Christian and Mormon text messages yesterday wishing them and their families a Merry Christmas. It doesn't hurt to respect others and be kind to them when they are trying to be kind to you. These flight attendants were not wishing Merry Christmas to this guy because they wanted to make him mad, they did it to be nice.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
64. Jesus, Santa, next time just take a dramaine like you did last year.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 04:32 PM
Dec 2014

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