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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 07:41 AM Dec 2014

'Some Sort of Hell': How One of the Wealthiest Cities in America Treats Its Homeless

http://www.alternet.org/some-sort-hell-how-one-wealthiest-cities-america-treats-its-homeless



SAN JOSE, Calif.—When San Jose dismantled the "Jungle," the nation’s largest homeless encampment, many of its residents with nowhere to go scattered. They found hiding places in the scores of small, less visible encampments within the city, where more than 5,000 people sleep unsheltered on a given night.

But one group of about three dozen evictees gathered what they could salvage in backpacks and trash bags, and crossed a bridge to a spot about a mile away. They found a clean patch of grass near Coyote Creek, the same creek that the Jungle abutted. There, they pitched tents donated by some concerned citizens, assigned themselves chores and hoped for the best.

Instead, they got marching orders. After weathering the hardest rains to fall in these parts in a decade, the campers found 72-hour eviction notices on their tents. Once again, a little more than a week after their forced flight from the Jungle, they had no idea where they might live.

“This is some sort of hell,” said Raul, 57 (who didn’t want his last name used), a life-long resident of San Jose who had lived in the Jungle for nearly eight years. He had nothing left of the home he had created, just a knapsack, his chihuahua Pepe, and a new pup tent. He was so depressed, he could barely lift his head.
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'Some Sort of Hell': How One of the Wealthiest Cities in America Treats Its Homeless (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2014 OP
Dog bless 'merka! Ferretherder Dec 2014 #1
USA is number one! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #2
For him, "This is some sort of hell". For us, this is some sort of unforgivable shame. marble falls Dec 2014 #3
San Jose marym625 Dec 2014 #4
It's been the end, chervilant Dec 2014 #5
I remember that San Jose too...today the avearge rent for a one bedroom apt there is $2,154 Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #19
sad. just sad. n/t marym625 Dec 2014 #20
That was a long time ago Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #23
I've read before that it's easier to be poor in a poor country than a rich one. There is jtuck004 Dec 2014 #6
Many homeless are technically working poor. haele Dec 2014 #14
Sickening. blackspade Dec 2014 #7
Another Ronald Reagan Christmas in America. nt raouldukelives Dec 2014 #8
The level of civilization of a country should be judged on how it treats the most unfortunate Major Nikon Dec 2014 #9
And the 1% almost invariably call themselves Christians dickthegrouch Dec 2014 #17
And what, if anything. .. 99Forever Dec 2014 #10
I too dotymed Dec 2014 #13
This is a taste of Silicon Valley liberalism salib Dec 2014 #11
Things like this support the idea that America is center-right AZ Progressive Dec 2014 #21
A group of homeless in my area have moved dotymed Dec 2014 #12
...the future ...masses of retirement age homeless community. L0oniX Dec 2014 #15
This is how America Ramses Dec 2014 #16
Maybe some feel good photo ops nilesobek Dec 2014 #18
The Bay Area won't build low end housing daredtowork Dec 2014 #22
We have to do better madokie Dec 2014 #24

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
1. Dog bless 'merka!
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 08:50 AM
Dec 2014

Make those commie-fashist-librul-hippie freeloaders get a job or move to France, or sumpthin'!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. San Jose
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 09:44 AM
Dec 2014

Somehow this happening in San Jose, the artists' mecca, the hippie refuge, just feels like the end.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. I remember that San Jose too...today the avearge rent for a one bedroom apt there is $2,154
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 01:28 PM
Dec 2014

Artists and hippies can't afford that sort of thing.....

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
23. That was a long time ago
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 04:40 PM
Dec 2014

these days? San Jose and the surrounding areas of Mountain View, Cupertino, Sunnyvale, etc are more of a mecca for asshole libertarian tech company employees.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. I've read before that it's easier to be poor in a poor country than a rich one. There is
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:07 AM
Dec 2014

more cast off in a rich country, and where they aren't greedy they can provide more relief.

But at least for a while I wonder if there aren't still places, probably outside of this country, where it might be easier for someone with nothing to live with their heads up. Other countries can take tens of thousands of refugees, and we can't even let Americans live with a little self-respect by a stream. The price they, and we, pay to support the wealthy, part of the great "deficit reduction" which leaves people without opportunity.

haele

(12,660 posts)
14. Many homeless are technically working poor.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:19 AM
Dec 2014

Day labor and other minimum-wage workers where physical appearance isn't that big a deal and if you have a uniform, there's usually a locker you can keep it at in the work-site ( as in maintenance, security and janitorial type work). Without section 8 housing, they just can't afford anything but a home-made shack where you eat out of a coleman cooler that doubles as your couch. It's not their fault that more than half the jobs available in the US are temporary and/or minimum wage. And San Jose has become an increasingly arrogant and horribly expensive city to try to live in.

There's a particular mind-set of many professionals, trust-fund babies, "small business owners" or wage-earners with regular annual income the mid-6 figures - for some reason, minimum wage support workers just don't exist outside their job. It says a lot about how those who were privileged enough to have opportunity to work their way up to success put the appearances and monetization of accomplishments above dignity and respect for accomplishment.
These are the same people who don't understand their shit stinks just the same as the self-medicating drug addict sleeping behind a bush in the park.

Haele

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. The level of civilization of a country should be judged on how it treats the most unfortunate
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:34 AM
Dec 2014

...not on how it treats the most fortunate.

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
17. And the 1% almost invariably call themselves Christians
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:51 PM
Dec 2014

"What ever you do to the least of my brethren, you do also to me"

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
10. And what, if anything. ..
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:35 AM
Dec 2014

... is any part of our government, local, state, or federal doing to restore our national conscience and humanity for our fellow human beings? THIS is the direct result of settling for "we suck less" in our candidates.

Not. Me. Ever. Again.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
13. I too
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:00 AM
Dec 2014

am resolute on that decision. It may piss many people off, but I will never vote for the lesser of 2 evils again. I will seek to encourage good candidates to run. I believe that this "lesser of two evils" shit has encouraged "politicians" to embrace corporatism over constituents. Whatever I can do to reverse this obscenity, I will.

salib

(2,116 posts)
11. This is a taste of Silicon Valley liberalism
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:49 AM
Dec 2014

Before we get too excited by the turnaround in CA politics, and in Jerry Brown in particular, keep in mind that this source of campaign funds and hope is very backwards in terms of economics. Great on social acceptance as long it does not mean having to share public spaces with the homeless.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
21. Things like this support the idea that America is center-right
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 03:54 PM
Dec 2014

And I'm not kidding, America is more condoning of inequality than other countries.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success/201208/why-do-we-have-obsession-winning

"According to the World Values Survey, Americans approval of competition is unmatched by any other industrialized country on earth. Americans also believe more strongly in the fairness of unequal outcomes, rewarding those who try and succeed and leaving those who fall behind to their own devices."

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
12. A group of homeless in my area have moved
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:55 AM
Dec 2014

(and acquired more tents) their tents to a strip mall (old wal mart) and surprisingly are living with the back of their tents
against the wall of the structure.
For a long time, the police forced them to move. Maybe this is their holiday kindness and they will force them back into the woods afterwards. Hide the reality you know...
Most of them are 50+ and a product of austerity. There but for the grace of God....

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
15. ...the future ...masses of retirement age homeless community.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:34 PM
Dec 2014

Maybe the youth of the future will burn nursing homes since those in them are rich enough to afford them. Actually I heard this is already happening somewhere ...not sure if its here or in other countries.

 

Ramses

(721 posts)
16. This is how America
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:38 PM
Dec 2014

treats the most desperate and in need. America is a very geeedy sick and hateful society that we allow such awful treatment to those unfortunate souls.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
18. Maybe some feel good photo ops
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:54 PM
Dec 2014

of politicians hawking tortured turkeys to the homeless will help. (sarcasm)

They aren't called "homeless," for nothing. Stop giving them things they don't need, like religion and turkeys and start giving them housing.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
22. The Bay Area won't build low end housing
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 04:33 PM
Dec 2014

For fear of "attracting" more poor.

Berkeley has actually sold all its public housing units, and our mayor is on record as saying that it's a bad idea to build low-incoming housing. (The implied reason is that it attracts "the wrong type&quot . He has kept measures and monies to build low-incoming housing stalled in committees and consultants and reports for years while luxury apartments get built by a company called Panoramic Interests that has made 60 million dollars off the city of Berkeley. The black population of Berkeley has decreased from 30% to 10%: I think that's just been within the time I've been here - it's been a visual decrease!

During a recent City Council meeting in which "the people" were given an open mic to speak, one "homeless girl" talked about coming to Berkeley because it had "better resources" and making it her home. I suspect she was a plant, paid to make that statement by propertied interests who want to propagate the idea that homeless people are invading Berkeley just to take advantage of our resources. My suspicion is based on two reasons:
1) The meeting was about Police Misconduct - this statement was just inserted in there like a random troll comment from someone that didn't even read the article they are commenting on.
2) Berkeley's resources are a myth. This girl didn't name any specific ones because there aren't any. This was a preemptive strike because the recent protest activity looked like Berkeley's "hippie spirit" might be reviving and people might be looking around and wondering where their old generosity went. While Berkeley has a myth of generosity to the homeless based on the 60s, Berkeley has actually been relentlessly cruel about withholding and denying services in order to avoid "attracting" people for years.

This isn't to say the poor girl wasn't actually a drifter of some sort - she seemed a bit confused. I think someone just slipped her a few bucks to say something and she was grateful for the money. She probably thought it was a great thing to say how wonderful and generous Berkeley was.

Anyway - with "noise" like this, it's really hard to get the signal through that the people at the bottom of the social scale - the ones who are doing all the service jobs that keep the city going - don't have a local place to live. It's unfair to expect a person making minimum wage to commute 2 hours from a suburb. In San Francisco, families are packed like sardines into single rooms, with a shared bathroom down the hall, and still have to hold down 2 jobs to pay the rent. This is only a step away from homelessness. Exhaustion, depression, physical disability...and then you've slid from minimum wage "servant" to one of these drifters. This is because Social Services in the Bay Area does not focus on keeping you in a stable housing situation first. They focus on their documentation, and driving you crazy with their documentation, first - and in the East Bay they do nothing to help you with housing, and in fact make stable housing impossible because they provide neither the housing nor enough money for the housing. So how are you supposed to "get a job" under those circumstances? This is nuts!!!

To address this problem, there needs to be more Social Services caseworkers, and more customized treatment of people who have tumbled to the very bottom of the heap. There needs to be focus on HOUSING FIRST. And - sorry NIMBYs - the housing needs to be IN THE CITY because that is where the services are, and otherwise who is going to pay for transportation to those services? The time to get to all those appointments is extremely draining on poor people who are holding down multiple "full time jobs" in terms of bureaucracy and medical care even as they are trying to get work.

HOUSING FIRST.
HOUSING FIRST.
HOUSING FIRST.
HOUSING FIRST.
HOUSING FIRST.

THIS MEANS YOU SAN JOSE, SAN FRANCISCO, OAKLAND, BERKELEY, and EMERYVILLE!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
24. We have to do better
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 04:55 PM
Dec 2014

this can't be allowed to continue much longer. That there is anyone homeless in our country is one of the saddest parts of our system as it is today. We can do better. We need to make the rich pay their fair share of taxes then we need to pay attention to who we vote for and get a total policy change. If we don't put a stop to bribery of our elected official being ok we'll never get out of this hell. Homeless is something that isn't there because someone chose that it is because of circumstances that they are there. Our laws should not allow that to be possible for someone to have to be without a home. I'm not talking about giving more money to the religious organizations either for their soup kitchens and beds to sleep in, I'm talking about on a personal basis everyone is dealt with in a way where they have a place to live and a means to having food

I'd go homeless if my only choice was to be indoctrinated into someone else's belief to get out of it. Fuck that.

I remember when I used to think I believed in a god but those days are long past. I thank I was somewhere around 14 YO when I realized this is more of a scam, a con if you'd rather but just a way for a few to control the many. I'm been atheist ever since and I've had 26 anniversaries of my thirty ninth birthday

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