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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKeith Olbermann : I'd like to congratulate NYP Union chief Lynch for proving - at Ramos funeral -
I'd like to congratulate NYP Union chief Lynch for proving - at Ramos funeral - protestors' point about the NYPD Delusion of Infallibility
Exactly how is turning your back on a mayor who didn't suppress free speech, anything but a giant EFF YOU to the citizens of this city?
Time for the NYPD to stop embarrassing itself in front of, and to the detriment of, its employers - the citizens of this city.
And to stop listening to this idiot Lynch, who is doing more to hurt the police of this city + this country than any peaceful protestor.
And as PS those NYPD who turned their back at Officer Ramos's funeral decided they should upstage his family and their grief.
So the right of political protest is limited to police in uniform? RT @Deadspin High school basketball teams
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As a New Yorker, I agree with Keith
very sad day
Rex
(65,616 posts)controlled by the people in charge of running the city. I mean, THAT is what should happen...but as we see here NYPD has no respect for authority themselves. What a dangerous group of thugs! Self empowered to decide justice in their own way!
Scary shit indeed.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)The Wizard
(12,548 posts)The police are there to serve those who vote, the citizens. If they want to be self serving they should find another job.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)And that is Wall Street.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)but I seriously don't think they even know what a "Wall Street" is. This is hardly an intelligent, or should I say educated group of people. They don't care about Wall Street. They would just as soon beat up a white shirt as a blue shirt as long as the guy who wears it is non-white or sympathizes with their enemy. These are true authoritarian racist idiots with a clan mentality so strong they would be scared shitless to even think about disagreeing with their gang. So they don't, and in that mindlessness is their feeling of power.
It doesn't take a logical reason, just arrogance in numbers.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I imagine you're right about many of the guys at the street level. I'm really talking about the leadership. And cops DO NOT treat investment bankers and the like the same as they do the hapless black citizenry. How often do you think Jamie Dimon gets stopped & frisked?
Here's an interesting little text capture from the JPMorgan website around the time of Occupy:
New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly sent CEO and Chairman Jamie Dimon a note expressing profound gratitude for the companys donation.
These officers put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe, Dimon said. Were incredibly proud to help them build this program and let them know how much we value their hard work.
And there's this:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/10/10/financial-giants-put-new-york-city-cops-on-their-payroll/
If youre a Wall Street behemoth, there are endless opportunities to privatize profits and socialize losses beyond collecting trillions of dollars in bailouts from taxpayers. One of the ingenious methods that has remained below the publics radar was started by the Rudy Giuliani administration in New York City in 1998. Its called the Paid Detail Unit and it allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New Yorks finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye.
The corporations pay an average of $37 an hour (no medical, no pension benefit, no overtime pay) for a member of the NYPD, with gun, handcuffs and the ability to arrest. The officer is indemnified by the taxpayer, not the corporation.
New York City gets a 10 percent administrative fee on top of the $37 per hour paid to the police. The Citys 2011 budget called for $1,184,000 in Paid Detail fees, meaning private corporations were paying wages of $11.8 million to police participating in the Paid Detail Unit. The program has more than doubled in revenue to the city since 2002.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)n/t
Beowulf42
(205 posts)They have been and are being trained to control the people when enough of us discover how badly we've been screwed by the plutocrats. They will gas us and beat us, and yes shoot us in the streets, to keep us from the moneyed class. It's called tyranny and we are ever nearer that day. Whose side will you be on?
StevePaulson
(174 posts)The police are there to keep "order" while our planet burns, our oceans die, and our families work harder and harder for an ever smaller piece of the pie.
The entire system works for the plutocrats. If you don't believe me, name how many bankers were arrested for selling fraudulent "securities". Zero.
Prisons are for poor people, not criminals.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Scary shit indeed.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I miss his old show sometimes; he could deliver a righteous rant like few others!
melman
(7,681 posts)It's quite possible that they do.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)There's a time and place. Just like at civilian funerals, sometimes there is tension and disagreement between different friends/relatives of the deceased, but it's considered extremely rude and petty to to make a dramatic scene out of it during the service.
StevePaulson
(174 posts)Saying "More Dead Cops Coming"?
For the police to "make their point" at the funeral, complaining about the protests, it would only seem
fair for the protesters to make a statement or two.
As long as the cops support killer cops, 100% of the time, anything goes.
Time for a real conversation officer?
Just be sure of one thing. No one in the corporate media will
ever mention blowback.
BLOWBACK
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I hope nobody is stupid enough to do that.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They explicitly invited de Blasio.
mythology
(9,527 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)So it's pretty far down the rabbit hole to believe they did this just so the NYPD could look like spoiled children.
sheshe2
(83,902 posts)Their display was utter contempt to the funeral proceedings. They were grandstanding pure and simple.
Duval
(4,280 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)calimary
(81,474 posts)We need his voice now, more than ever!
madokie
(51,076 posts)that is a knock out if ever there was or is one, huh
I agree with Keith on just about any and every thing. He's a good man and smart as a whip to boot.
JI7
(89,269 posts)make it all about them.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Always on point
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Cha
(297,665 posts)R B Garr
(16,976 posts)Every bit and more than what they were trying to do to the Mayor. They told New Yorkers that their collective egos are more important than any citizen's safety. Horrible behavior!
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)on 301 today. In Virginia (don't remember the small town) saw a small (20+) WHITE people protesting by holding up banners and signs saying things like "support the cops," "love a cop," etc. I really wanted to know which policeman I should love...maybe my friend in New Jersey who is a cop...or maybe the murderers like Darren Wilson. Sorry I didn't have time to stop and chat with these lovely people.
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)White militias where singling out policemen and police stations. Now, it's one big love-in. They've found a common cause and love is in the air.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)He's spot on!
mountain grammy
(26,653 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)I only agree with him when he speaks... (or writes).
lexington filly
(239 posts)and as professionals, then a minimum step is to stop acting like ill-behaved, sullen children at their "brother's" funeral.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)HE is making the NYPD look like really really bad across the nation.
NYPD has a lot of crap on its hands. I won't pretend that it doesn't. Lynch isn't helping.
Every NYP officer who turned his or her back at Ramos' funeral in a church makes me sad. They all act like they knew what that man knew.
That bothers me. It bothers me a lot. They are using a dead police officer as a political statement.
Funny, they were pissed that the mayor for supporting the right to protest.
No one seemed to make that clear.
Dog whistle.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)realize that loon has been around for that long. I was still in NY when those first three incidents happened.
This guy was around during the 2003 GOP convention. He's a menace.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)They should be sent packing.
Should start firing them.Turn your back your fired.
The cops came in from all over so it's not just a NYPD thug-cop problem. This is what a Police State looks like. Sad that they would use their fallen to stage such an arrogant display of hate and stupidity. ..... no one ever wants cops to die on the job, we just want them to stop using excessive deadly force at the slightest provocation.
calimary
(81,474 posts)Glad you're both here! Such a sad thing. Adding insult to injury in the most literal sense. They made it about them when it should rightfully be about the fallen officer and his family.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)KO nailed it.
Bette R. Daize
(43 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)and not at all professional...in my humble opinion.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)showing their authority over a Democratic society.
It is time to break them!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)not liked by many and why growing numbers of people have little or no respect for them.
senz
(11,945 posts)It's a rotten stickin' orchard and it needs to be cut down so we can grow new, healthy police who know whom they serve (hint: ALL THE PEOPLE) and who do not disrespect a mayor who was elected by THE PEOPLE and who loves his half-African American son as much as they love their children.
Any cop worth his badge would bow his head in shame at the behavior of these solipsistic creeps. Cops are blue collar workers but lately they act like they're there to protect the 1% and stomp on the poor and working class. Maybe they watch too much Fox News. Maybe they think they're a blue tribe against a black tribe. Maybe they'd better open their eyes.
And maybe the state peace officer training agency had better tighten its standards. Because the cops who turned their backs on Mayor De Blasio are not worthy of their jobs.
I was ready to ask nothing more than a clean-up of the police force. Now I think we need a total clean OUT. I've never been more angry at the police than I am now.
Let's not allow this anger die down. Let's make it heard in mainstream media and make it go viral.
senz
(11,945 posts)civilians.
NO. They do NOT have that "right." NOT NOW, NOT EVER. Not in this country.
George II
(67,782 posts)calimary
(81,474 posts)Good to have you with us. I wouldn't go quite that far, but it's very unnecessarily an in-yer-face gesture in a very solemn time that is deserving of NOTHING but respect and exemplary behavior - NOT some display that starts making it political. However, I can see how this "gesture," in the context of being the latest in-yer-face by police in a climate of some really obscene police brutality, would be interpreted that way. Police brutality. Seems like we've never gotten beyond it. A complaint leveled by anti-war protesters back in my younger days. But this is overkill - in the starkest sense of the word.
George II
(67,782 posts)StevePaulson
(174 posts)I miss KO.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)JI7
(89,269 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)He's one of the good guys.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)it is way past time for you to return to where you are needed - the news! You are sorely missed.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)will not allow a contrary argument to be heard.
This is a war, we just don't recognize it yet.
StevePaulson
(174 posts)It would screw up their brainwashing apparatus.
Fox
CNN
MSNBC (halfway)
The "Networks"
Newspapers.....
The list goes on.
marble falls
(57,223 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)He's making all the decent police look like jerks. Not a coincidence his name is LYNCH.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)This Meme should be shared, everywhere......
Speaking of Tasteless Acts......turning one's back on their Boss in the Middle of a Funeral has to Take the Cake, one would think.....
Meme Credit: Independent Underground News & Talk
Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #45)
reimaginethis This message was self-deleted by its author.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Has a Statement about the Mayor of New Tork not being the NYPD Boss. The Mayor is the Highest Elected Official for the City of New York, or is the Chief Executive Officer. As the CEO, he appoints administrative officials or RETAIN officials from previous administrations. NYPD Commander Bill Bratton is one example.
Bratton answers to the Mayor, all NYPD police officers rank and file answer to Bratton. The end result is the MAYOR is the boss of the NYPD via his Chain of Command which include Commander Bill Bratton.
Any other questions troll with 17 posts? Oh and by the way, this Meme has been HIGHLY SHARED on Facebook and Google Plus. Have a lovely night and enjoy however long (or short) your stay will be on DU.
Boreal
(725 posts)maybe that person you just called a troll was under the mistaken belief that the police work for We the People and not the mayor. Of course, that would be wrong.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)The NYC Commander, who works direct under the authority of the Mayor. Which means the Mayor is the Boss of the NYPD and Commander Bill Bratton's boss also. The Public can't on their on hire or fire a NYC Police Officer on their own, however after a investigation, the Commander can -- who works for the Mayor. Officer has a right to speak with the Mayor about retaining his or her job after following the unionized grievance process (does not mean the Mayor would supersede the Commander's decision but, he could).
And yes, I called the poster with 17 posts, a troll. Next....
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)And the Mayor is an elected position. The police are employees of the people that elected the Mayor.
The Mayor is their boss. Actually we the people are their boss. And as a boss, I am goddamned sick and tired of their lawless ways.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)He is.
SunSeeker
(51,701 posts)What a fucking douchebag.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)That's the way I learned the proverb in school a million years ago. Imagine what a few bad apples can do. This proves it.
But I remember years ago at the NYC Gay Pride March, when the gay police contingent marched by, the cops on duty all turned their backs. The NYC police have been corrupt thugs for decades.
young_at_heart
(3,772 posts)He was so great and he is missed!!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)They are protecting their best interests.
They also got rid of their highest rated program in Phil Donahue when he was in opposition to the Iraq War. How much do you think those assholes made on the Iraq War?
Of course we love Keith. Today the PTB simply do not allow someone like that on the major airwaves. He tells the truth. Can't have that.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Keith said it exactly right. Just as I would expect.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)That is the worst of it. They completely ignored the grieving family for their own selfish reasons.
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Why was this national news, rather than local news? I don't live in NYC. The MSM just has to go where their puppet masters send them I guess. All this national boo-hooing over 2 cops. Hey my Dad was a cop, and so was his older brother, who was killed in the line of duty. Why are 2 slain cops and their families more important than the UNARMED black boys and men, who were slain by out-of-control cops with multiple bullets?
Their treatment of the Mayor is disgraceful. Someone commander over those men should lose his job.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)There's already a surplus of empty-headed sports commentators. Keith needs to bring his liberal outrage back to the airwaves. The sooner the better.
Vinca
(50,304 posts)I can't even remember why he was ousted from the political scene. He's sorely missed.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)lark
(23,156 posts)and everyone that turned their backs. Insubordination is defintely a firing offense. They showed disrespect too their mayor, their office and to the people of NY. They seem to think that the ability to kill with impunity and with no reason is sacrosanct. They do not belong in uniform and are the danger the people fear, with GOOD REASON!
sendero
(28,552 posts).... should pull a page from many of the cops' hero, Ronald Reagan. I think he should decertify the union, and tell the officers they are all terminated from the force but are free to apply for their old jobs back. Except they should understand, if they are a known hothead, have had arbitration over keeping their job more than once, are a known racist or participated in the funeral back-turn, don't bother applying the answer is no.
MH1
(17,600 posts)then anyone else did by challenging their actions in performance of their jobs.
I agree wholeheartedly with Olbermann. Lynch and those who joined him are despicable.
I used to be a strong supporter of police in general. I think when something happens like the Garner killing, we need to focus on the individual officers involved, and whether training/protocols are correct to avoid it in the future. I do NOT support blanket denigration of police as a group.
But too many of the NYPD sided with Lynch and made Ramos' funeral about them, instead of about Ramos and his family.
Fuck 'em. From now on where NYPD is concerned, I'm giving a lot less benefit of the doubt than I did in the past.