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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen George HW Bush does die, will there be a lot of tributes? Or condemnations?
Well, he is 90.
His presidency will be noted for how the Gulf War was his high point, and the pardoning of the Iran-Contra figures his low.
I hope his time as head of the CIA will be noted.
Who knows how many crimes he knew of or did himself.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)It will make Reagan's passing look like Dinner Theater in Dubuque.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)The corporate media will never accurately tell the story of the Bush Crime Family. They never have. He's a scumbag criminal who will be held forth as an "American Icon". Despite the damage that family has done to this country.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)This is why I pray Cheney doesn't die...I couldn't stomach the tributes!
P.S. I don't really pray for him and I could endure the tributes...all things considered....
Javaman
(62,521 posts)cretin.
babylonsister
(171,059 posts)Some condemnations surely also, but he was a prez so he'll be treated accordingly.
Archae
(46,327 posts)Agnew was pretty well ignored.
I didn't even know about Agnew dying until the day of his funeral, and that got a couple minutes on the news.
babylonsister
(171,059 posts)somewhat in his later years.
Agnew's dead?
Now you have me wondering about dimson. He might wind up in the dustbin of history. There will be lots of outspoken opinions then.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I almost puked over the way some people defended Tricky Dick for 20 years after he had resigned from the presidency.
Then some of them even tried to make him sound like he was a great leader, and a man of honor.
Dick had no honor.
He was a dick.
It was just pomp and circumstance, as far as he was concerned.
All Dick was interested in was power, and the paranoia he had caused him to become psychotic.
Or, is it the other way around, the psychosis he had caused him to become paranoid, I can't remember.
Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)...the media will treat him like George Washington.
earthside
(6,960 posts)The main stream media will make a deal out of his passing for a few days.
But he was pretty much a mediocre President who got beat by Clinton-Gore.
And don't forget Dan Quayle ... who wants to think about him again.
For average Americans, Bush's shuffle off the mortal coil will be meaningless.
DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts). . .when that prick kicks the bucket.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)because Bill Clinton enthusiastically supported it and signed it into law early in his first term.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement
Back row, left to right: Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, at the signing of the North American Free Trade Agreement in October 1992. In front are Mexican Secretary of Commerce and Industrial Development Jaime Serra Puche, United States Trade Representative Carla Hills, and Canadian Minister of International Trade Michael Wilson
And we lost one million jobs thanks to NAFTA.
NAFTA at 20: One Million U.S. Jobs Lost, Higher Income Inequality
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lori-wallach/nafta-at-20-one-million-u_b_4550207.html
But no one will remember that when we are enthusiastically pushing for the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which was originally George W's deal.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Poppy will be remembered for using too much liquid THC in Japan and puking all over the PM.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I was telling puke jokes for weeks after that.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)What a piece of work. I think he was remembering something personal about that day. Too bad he can't be deposed so long afterward.
Rex
(65,616 posts)There is no bottom to that man's skeleton closet. If we could weigh out all that he did in his life, verse Cheney's - I bet his life would make Cheney's look like an eagle scout outing. From his nazi loving daddy, to his great great great dad that loved the slaving days far too much. The family that taught us the words 'human capital'.
Bush might be the only man that has a closet of skeletons dedicated to the skeletons in his closet...they needed additional room.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Morality and humanity in that family that extends through many generations. Barbara's family would need to be examined for the same kind of skeletons, because there is no doubt in my mind that she and Poppy are made for each other.
If I believed in demons, I would consider the likelihood that someone in his lineage made a "deal" and that the same demon possesses at least one in each generation.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)even if he gets to stiff to move (from the vascular parkinsons) They have machines to push O2 into him and a heart pump.
no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)GHWB was a moderate who was tolerated as Reagan's sidekick for eight years. He was elected in his own right because:
1) He wasn't Michael Dukakis, and
2) Willie Horton (credit to Lee Atwater).
Conservative republicans never truly embraced Poppy.
braddy
(3,585 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,834 posts)JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)he had one of the best resumes in history. And this was a book written by a progressive.
sendero
(28,552 posts)He will be a combination of saint and knight. Count on it.
Rex
(65,616 posts)for all the crying and despair.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Xolodno
(6,390 posts)1. He didn't finish the Iraq war (....I count that as being smart enough to know Iraq was a boondoggle).
2. Failed to live up to the legacy of Regan.
3. Failed to connect with the average American...but it wasn't his fault. (Bullshit IMHO).
4. Father of one (God help us if its two) President.
5. Someone who liked sky diving.
There isn't any ratings for GWHB...so it will come and go as fast as watching a Rose Parade float in person.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)American people will go for it. He certainly wasn't the worst president we've ever had. In fact, I think that honor will go to his son. But he was not a great or even a very good one. I for one won't be watching their tributes.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)had the guts to stand up the way Glenda Jackson did in the House of Commons when Thatcher died.
There was also a website called "Is Thatcher Dead Yet" - it was up for years with the answer "No - check back later". When she died the website read "Yes. How are you celebrating?" It had links to FB and other sites where people were venting about Thatcher...No crocodile tears or "let's not speak ill of the dead" comments by the British for Thatcher like we had for Reagan and will have when George H.W. meets Satan.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)"I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God."
http://www.robsherman.com/information/liberalnews/2002/0303.htm
Archae
(46,327 posts)And he always ran away from that quote, never answering to criticism.
Kablooie
(18,632 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Wouldnt surprise me at all.
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)and note that he reached across the aisle to break his "no new taxes" pledge, raising income taxes and imposing luxury taxes. Also the fact that he signed the ADA into law will probably be mentioned. I suspect that most will view Iran-Contra as complicated ancient history.
KinMd
(966 posts)so he didn't do it.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I feel slightly less antagonized by him then I do his son and his buddy Dick Cheney. The one I'm waiting for is Scalia to die. I'm not much of a drinker, but I will be partying hard that day.
moondust
(19,979 posts)I heard that from time to time for years afterwards. It seemed to really bother some hawks that he didn't get Saddam even though there was no UN mandate or coalition support for it. I suspect junior's subsequent invasion was launched at least partly to "finish the job" and shut them up.
Incubators.
Otherwise fairly nondescript, which is better than chickenhawk warmongering. Will no doubt be rightly hailed for assembling a large coalition including some Arab states.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)everyone else. Pomp. Ceremony. Bullshit.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)and announce his death.
Sarcasm. .
MiniMe
(21,714 posts)Poor, poor Jeb, just lost his father and is still campaigning