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(Truthdig) Its not often that name recognition is a bad thing. But from a marketing standpoint, Hillary Clinton is stuck in a rut.
Like Coca-Cola or McDonalds, her name is known worldwide. But its doubtful that either of those brands would, like Hillary, consistently register unfavorability ratings among American consumers in the range of 40 percent.
When familiar entities unveil new products, shoppers are notoriously discerning. Diet Coke worked, but Vanilla Coke flopped.
But when a politician suddenly adopts a new position, voters can be even more skeptical. A hawk cannot become a dove, nor can a friend of Wall Street become a foe.
Hillarys core problem, in other words, is that shes simply too familiar to American voters, who after two terms of one leader tend to want something new. And theres very little she can do to reposition herself in the marketplace. ............(more)
The complete piece is at: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_devil_you_know_20141230
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)
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daleanime
(17,796 posts)brooklynite
(94,552 posts)Autumn
(45,082 posts)They are moderate republicans.
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)Autumn
(45,082 posts)still holding tight to their conservative values. She talks the talk and walks the walk. There is a difference
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)The argument of the OP is that it's impossible to change.
Autumn
(45,082 posts)point of the OP. And Hillary is exactly that, a friend of wall Street and a Hawk. Hillary doesn't want to change those traits. You are the one who made it about republicans becoming democrats.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Oh, those inconvenient truths!!!
I love these "Can't trust THAT ONE, they said 'x' a zillion years ago, so THEY will NEVER CHANGE..." arguments, particularly when they're turned on their heads!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Actually, The argument of the OP is that it's impossible (actually it's rather difficult, but not impossible) to change the American public's 1st impression of you.
BTW.... Elizabeth Warren's 1st impression to the American Public was not that she was a Repug in the 90's, even tho' she might have been registered as such.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... are my sworn enemies and I will treat them as such.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Yes, shes beginning to veer to the left in preparation for the primaries, but havent we had enough of this?
Wouldnt it be interesting to see a candidate who actually represented the peoples interests tackle the usual corporatists who win the Democratic nominations? Not to mention the sycophantic Republicans who so obviously dance to the tunes of the likes of Addelson, the Koch Brothers and Wall Street?
The fact is we can wage and win a war for a progressive candidate, and we have potential candidates who speak for the people. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, the Progressive Congressional Caucus each offers common sense and popular alternatives to the corrosive forces of corporatism that is eroding our Democracy.
Corporate money can trump everything but the vote. In the age of the Internet, we can take over this Party. We can raise our own money and turn out our own candidates. We can bypass the bought and paid for media and reach people directly with a message they are dying to hear....
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/04/17/hillary-clinton-and-future-failure-progressive-hope-and-change
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)Based on her performance in 2008 and her polling today, a lot of "people" seem to support her.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)DesertDiamond
(1,616 posts)buddying up to Wall Street, and for me, worst of all, it's her prayer breakfasts with the Dominionists -- who, for those who don't know, are mega-wealthy, powerful, and determined to force this country to be ruled by their version of Christianity. I don't think needing someone new is the issue. Just need someone whose efforts support the principle of "by the people, for the people," and not for war profiteers and theocracy.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Add to what you said:
Oh BOY! It's "news of the future"!!!!!
groundloop
(11,519 posts)Don't tell me it's not true because I myself have changed drastically as I've grown and matured. Is someone going to tell me I can't possibly be a liberal because I used to associate with homophobic racists?
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)"You can't teach an old dog new tricks" is the old wisdom. It's wrong. People who study human behavior, growth, and cognitive development have found that people continue to change throughout their lives. People continue to change, develop new interests and perspectives all the way through old age.
Old aphorisms are sometimes wrong.
jalan48
(13,865 posts)The power structure will make sure the final two candidates are vetted and approved. No candidate that advocates raising the minimum wage to at least $15/hr. will get there. The same with finance reform, opposition to TPP-like trade agreements , the national security state, the military budget, etc. There will be "talk" around these issues but it will quickly turn to social issues, the police, or whether or not Hillary has had plastic surgery.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)The 2016 election will be a contest between a conventional Democrat and a conventional Republican. Hillary Clinton is not a brick-throwing radical. She's a widely respected and popular conventional politician with both liberal and conservative leanings. Ordinary Americans and regular Democratic voters will turn out in large numbers to vote for her, if she runs.