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Sivafae

(480 posts)
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:41 AM Jan 2015

How do I leave my Union?

I am an In-Home Support Services (IHSS) here in California and I am sick and tired of paying a union to get minimal benefits and pay. I want to leave my union and perhaps join another, if they will take me, to get a raise that we IHSS workers haven't had since 2003. That is 12 years. We are the backbone of our clients' lives, we need to be treated as just a precious. Here in Ca, Dear Gov. Brown put a provision in the new law for workers that gives them a mandated 3 days of sick leave, that excepted IHSS workers--the only people excluded. This is old.

(I know that there are people out there who say we should expand medicare to be the one payer system, but after you read what I have just wrote, you might want to think about that some more)

I go on to my union website and see that they are out there protesting about immigration and other issues that affect the Latino community. That's great, but I need a raise and I am not Latino. Immigration is a great issue, but I would like some mandated days off, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PERSON WHO WORKS IN THE STATE. I get tired of them taking what seems like a minimal amount to get nothing. Oh yeah...I do get medical and dental, but after working this job since 2007, I figured out in about 2012 that they didn't have my current address, so I didn't get those benefits. They happy to take my money, but rather slow to make sure that I am active in the union, taken care of as a worker, or even at the address they have on file for me. I live 30 to 40 miles away from the closest meeting. Or they hold informational meetings 60 miles away from where I live. I have no car.

This is so old. I am so pro-Union, but what the SEIU is doing is bullshit. This is such bullshit.

How do I leave and join another?

The Harris v Quinn decision just his last year changed the fact that I had pay the union, it specifically dealt with my line of work, caregivers who have to pay unions, because we are not considered full employees of the state.

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How do I leave my Union? (Original Post) Sivafae Jan 2015 OP
I don't know, but call them or your roody Jan 2015 #1
Actually what the Supreme court did with Harris v. Quinn changes the game completely nt Sivafae Jan 2015 #2
Not familiar with that-will have to research. roody Jan 2015 #4
oh jeez .... belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #3
You have no clue what you are talking about, so please don't. Sivafae Jan 2015 #5
I have a union job in Ca. roody Jan 2015 #7
No, not quite. JayhawkSD Jan 2015 #18
yeah i do, having been in teamsters and in cwa 25yrs - i have an idea of what im talking about belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #17
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #6
Is your union UDWA? (nt) Recursion Jan 2015 #8
No, SEIU. Sivafae Jan 2015 #12
OK, try UDWA. You can leave SEIU by declaring "I am not a member of SEIU" Recursion Jan 2015 #14
Who are your deligates? How do they get to be a delegate? Hoppy Jan 2015 #9
You gonna drive me there? Did you not read my post? Sivafae Jan 2015 #10
Paid sick days for your union starts July 1st 2015 JaneyVee Jan 2015 #11
Noo, it doesn't. Sivafae Jan 2015 #13
It has been updated December 1st: JaneyVee Jan 2015 #15
there was no reason to hide that reply to my post it was neither rude or disruptive to me belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #16
Unions are micro-democracy in action PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #19
of course not, he cant drive didnt you read ! (or take a bus or get a ride or use a phone) belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #20
I understand what you are getting at PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #21
yea you cant do that - like ari fleischer said you have to be careful of what you say belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #22
Have you tried to contact your reps? Sherman A1 Jan 2015 #23

roody

(10,849 posts)
1. I don't know, but call them or your
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jan 2015

Union representatives to discuss your grievances. What Brown did is terrible. Since Californa is a union state, you may be stuck in the union. Make it work for you.

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
3. oh jeez ....
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jan 2015

Here in Ca, Dear Gov. Brown put a provision in the new law for workers that gives them a mandated 3 days of sick leave, except for IHSS workers - but by all means blame the union

typicall right wing whining about the union

I am so pro-Union excpt when theyre helping anyone but meeeeeeeeeeeeeee oh btw ...I do get medical and dental but meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
your benefits are not contigient upon where you live

Sivafae

(480 posts)
5. You have no clue what you are talking about, so please don't.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jan 2015

This is my real situation, not some random made up situation where I a proposing what it would be like to be so used.

I am a caregiver, I have no right to overtime, breaks or minimum wage. Sure the Obama Admin tried to change that, but it is being challenged in the courts. And yet I somehow pay a union, with none of the benefits a union entails. I want that to change. I shouldn't have to join a state mandated union that does nothing for me just because it doesn't threaten the state.

roody

(10,849 posts)
7. I have a union job in Ca.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jan 2015

When I started, 17 years ago, I was told that if I am against paying union dues, the money will still be taken from my check, but I can designate it to a charity or something like that. (sorry such old info)

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
18. No, not quite.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jan 2015

You have to pay the portion of dues which is devoted to the union's activity related to collective bargaining. You do not have to pay the portion of dues which the union uses for other purposes, such as political contributions.

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
17. yeah i do, having been in teamsters and in cwa 25yrs - i have an idea of what im talking about
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:35 PM
Jan 2015

btw i had nothing to do with the hidden post

Response to belzabubba333 (Reply #3)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. OK, try UDWA. You can leave SEIU by declaring "I am not a member of SEIU"
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jan 2015

If your employer has an agency shop agreement negotiated with SEIU, you will still have to remit fees in lieu of union dues, though. If they don't, then SEIU can't force you to pay dues as a condition of employment. In either case, you can join UDWA, which is an AFL-CIO affiliate and represents home health care workers.

http://www.udwa.org/

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
9. Who are your deligates? How do they get to be a delegate?
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

Attend the union meetings. Find other people in your employment who are unhappy with the union.

There are steps to take. They are not easy.

Good Luck,

H

Sivafae

(480 posts)
13. Noo, it doesn't.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:07 PM
Jan 2015
http://capitalandmain.com/paid-sick-leave-law-excludes-homecare-workers/

Politics is the art of compromise. On this note, Capital & Main asked Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez (D-San Diego) about the removal of 365,000 In Home Support Service (IHSS) workers from Assembly Bill 1522, the paid sick leave bill she authored. (See “Landmark Sick Leave Law Signed.”) The measure, signed into law September 10, grants this employment benefit to 6.5 million private-sector workers statewide. It takes effect on July 1, 2015. IHSS workers help the disabled and elderly with their daily household and medical needs. According to the Economic Policy Institute, nationally 93 percent of such workers are female, with 27 percent of them Hispanic and 18 percent African American.
 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
19. Unions are micro-democracy in action
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jan 2015

Do you go to your union meetings? Do you discuss the issues with other members? Do you vote when the contract is up for vote?

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
20. of course not, he cant drive didnt you read ! (or take a bus or get a ride or use a phone)
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jan 2015

he's an anti-immigrant "democrat" whose mad b/c HIS union is helping illegals and not him (so he thinks) specifically

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
21. I understand what you are getting at
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jan 2015

And, I agree.

BUT

I can not say what I think anymore about many posts. Every time I actually tell some truth on DU anymore, I get kicked off of DU.

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
22. yea you cant do that - like ari fleischer said you have to be careful of what you say
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jan 2015

say the wrong thing you'll get swarm alerted on and then booted. but this is a great place for news. this poster though, he seemed to me pretty obvious what his point was .

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
23. Have you tried to contact your reps?
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:43 PM
Jan 2015

I am sure you have a phone number to call and let them know your feelings?

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