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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:26 PM Jan 2015

Interesting blog from August: Not a Tea Party, a Confederate Party

On the Tea Party. This is not about the south - this is going on up here in Michigan too. It's a nationwide thing.

http://weeklysift.com/2014/08/11/not-a-tea-party-a-confederate-party/

But the enduring Confederate influence on American politics goes far beyond a few rhetorical tropes. The essence of the Confederate worldview is that the democratic process cannot legitimately change the established social order, and so all forms of legal and illegal resistance are justified when it tries.

That worldview is alive and well. During last fall’s government shutdown and threatened debt-ceiling crisis, historian Garry Wills wrote about our present-day Tea Partiers: “The presiding spirit of this neo-secessionism is a resistance to majority rule.”

The Confederate sees a divinely ordained way things are supposed to be, and defends it at all costs. No process, no matter how orderly or democratic, can justify fundamental change.

When in the majority, Confederates protect the established order through democracy. If they are not in the majority, but have power, they protect it through the authority of law. If the law is against them, but they have social standing, they create shams of law, which are kept in place through the power of social disapproval. If disapproval is not enough, they keep the wrong people from claiming their legal rights by the threat of ostracism and economic retribution. If that is not intimidating enough, there are physical threats, then beatings and fires, and, if that fails, murder.

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Interesting blog from August: Not a Tea Party, a Confederate Party (Original Post) gollygee Jan 2015 OP
Neo-Confederates (Republicans, Teabaggers, and other assorted RWers) are innately tyrannical and BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #1
Blog 1chef2u Jan 2015 #2
"they know there is no way a majority of Americans would accept their beliefs" - lol. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #3
They don't need a majority, they've proven that. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #4
12 Years a Slave was a remarkable story.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #5
Everyone needs to read this astoundingly insightful piece. hedda_foil Jan 2015 #6
I agree completely gollygee Jan 2015 #7
Best read this year. Thanks for posting it. freshwest Jan 2015 #8

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
1. Neo-Confederates (Republicans, Teabaggers, and other assorted RWers) are innately tyrannical and
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jan 2015

adhere to the trademarks of what makes a dictatorship. They act as if they're, in mind, body, and soul, miniature dictators with Napoleonic complex syndrome, and they could very well be.

1chef2u

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2. Blog
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jan 2015

The tea party is becoming pretty petty. They are absolutely intimidating and threatening, because they know there is no way a majority of Americans would accept their beliefs. A few of us ran referencing on our own for Gabby Gifford's, last time she ran. It came very close to becoming violent with the opposition following a couple of us, giving out personal addresses and such. This was a while ago. Now they are getting much bolder, the two Tea party activists in Vegas, were just a beginning. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/usanow/2014/06/08/3-dead-in-shooting-at-vegas-restaurant-walmart/10204227/

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
5. 12 Years a Slave was a remarkable story..
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:43 PM
Jan 2015

but the story of the South after the Civil War has never really been told and it should be. Yes, there have been bits and pieces and we know it was hell on earth for former slaves and they fled by the thousands to the north, war refugees in America.
How different America would have been if Lincoln hadn't been assassinated, but then the Confederates wouldn't win like they did. Lincoln had to die.

This article is excellent, thank you for posting. I read it all and subscribed to the blog.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
6. Everyone needs to read this astoundingly insightful piece.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 03:06 AM
Jan 2015

The author has done US history a huge service, by defining what has been going on for all these years. I have to agree with his conclusion that the Confederacy really did win the Civil War.


Reconstruction was the second phase of the Civil War. It lasted until 1877, when the Confederates won.” I think that would have gotten my attention.

It wasn’t just that Confederates wanted to continue the war. They did continue it, and they ultimately prevailed. They weren’t crazy, they were just stubborn.



gollygee

(22,336 posts)
7. I agree completely
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jan 2015

It is very insightful. It explains a lot that has always puzzled me about right-wingers.

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