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Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 04:39 AM Jan 2015

The Kosher Grocery Shooting Follows a String of Anti-Semitic Attacks in France

It is unclear if the grocery store where a hostage situation unfolded earlier Friday was targeted because it is kosher, but the siege there follows a string of attacks on Jewish businesses and synagogues in France, the country with the third-largest Jewish population in the world, after the United States and Israel, as well as the largest Muslim population in Western Europe. Last month, speaking at a rally against anti-Semitism in the Paris suburb of Créteil, the country’s interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said that anti-Semitic acts and threats had more than doubled in the past 10 months, and he promised to make the issue a “national cause.”

The rally was prompted by a particularly shocking crime in Créteil in which a couple was robbed and the woman raped in their apartment by armed assailants who told them they had been targeted because “you Jews, you have money.” Tensions reached a high point during last summer’s war in Gaza, when demonstrations turned violent with pro-Palestinian youths attacking Jewish businesses in a neighborhood known for its large Jewish population. Several synagogues were also firebombed. Demonstrators at some rallies chanted slogans like “death to the Jews” and “slaughter the Jews.” These incidents followed an attack in May on the Jewish Museum of Belgium in Brussels, where a French former ISIS fighter killed four people.

These attacks have added to the growing unease of a community still reeling from the 2012 shooting at a Jewish school in Toulouse, which killed three children and a teacher, as well as the grisly torture and murder of a young Jewish man named Ilan Halimi in 2006. While these dramatic incidents have garnered the most international attention, smaller anti-Semitic crimes have become depressingly commonplace. On New Year’s Day of this year, for instance, a fire was started and a swastika drawn on the wall of a synagogue in a Paris suburb.

While not all the perpetrators of these crimes have been Muslims—police also arrested five men believed to be “far-right” activists for making threats against a synagogue last month—the vast majority of them have been, and they have contributed to the increasing public unease about the country’s growing immigrant population.

more: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2015/01/09/the_kosher_grocery_shooting_follows_a_string_of_anti_semitic_attacks_in.html

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The Kosher Grocery Shooting Follows a String of Anti-Semitic Attacks in France (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 OP
See, BtA (got it right this time!) PCIntern Jan 2015 #1
I wonder how this POS feels today? Bonobo Jan 2015 #2
Oh...I thought you were going PCIntern Jan 2015 #5
Nah, I'm too classy. Bonobo Jan 2015 #7
I ain't threading no needles. PCIntern Jan 2015 #10
Yup, you got it right. ;) Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #15
Thank you, for this article encompassing the history in France of anti-semitism leading Cha Jan 2015 #3
Not much of a history if it didn't include the Dreyfus Affair. Bonobo Jan 2015 #9
This article talks about much of the anti-Semitism in France. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #16
Thank you, BtA.. I will read it.. it's so sad. Cha Jan 2015 #18
"In every generation.." Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #4
I've been boycotting France for a while OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #20
It's worth it to go read the entire article JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #6
Good points. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #14
we cannot deny the rabid anti semitism of these radical muslims m-lekktor Jan 2015 #8
It is in fact very clear that the shop was targeted because it was kosher. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2015 #11
Yeah. thanks for that S J Cha Jan 2015 #19
K&R riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #12
Kick JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #13
Hey! Where's the usual crowd who so quickly and deftly goes after Jews PCIntern Jan 2015 #17
To busy making excuses OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #21
The media has been mostly silent on these attacks. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #22
Yes. 840high Jan 2015 #26
This thread went better than I expected... No need for popcorn today. freshwest Jan 2015 #23
Bibi will at French Rally tomorrow. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #24
K&R Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #25
Incredibly sad Marrah_G Jan 2015 #27
this place is really fucked up right now with people denying what is happening JI7 Jan 2015 #28
The other irony. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #29

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
1. See, BtA (got it right this time!)
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 08:06 AM
Jan 2015

it's NOT anti-Semitism, it has to do with the occupying power of "Israel". There is no such thing as anti-Semitism anymore...it all has to do with oppression of a People. Why would anyone hate Jews? This is clearly a paranoid supposition not worth of consideration and here, ofte instigates a locked post...

just in case...

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
7. Nah, I'm too classy.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:28 AM
Jan 2015

But what you wrote... I love it.

It'e true that being anti-Israel does not mean your an anti-Semite.

On the other hand, every anti-semite is also anti-Israel, so well... you do the math. It means that a lit of times, they are.

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
10. I ain't threading no needles.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:21 AM
Jan 2015

I don't really give a flying fuck as to what these people think of me. The fact is that these pearl-clutching folk are absent from all these threads AS USUAL.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
15. Yup, you got it right. ;)
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 04:44 PM
Jan 2015

Though sarcastic, "This is clearly a paranoid supposition not worth of consideration", it really is a shame how true that statement it. For some, this is just one more way to mock Jews, and in at least one post, blame Jews for not being more courageous.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
3. Thank you, for this article encompassing the history in France of anti-semitism leading
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 08:30 AM
Jan 2015

up to the horror of the Kosher Super Market, targeted in Eastern Paris, BtA.

Already on High Alert and then this happened. My Deepest Condolences to the loved ones of the those who were killed and to the People of France.



 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
4. "In every generation.."
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 08:36 AM
Jan 2015

There is simply no other way of looking at it.

It is open season on jews in France.

and the French govt does nothing.

Last Jew out of France turn out the lights.

 

OnePercentDem

(79 posts)
20. I've been boycotting France for a while
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:25 PM
Jan 2015

Due to their anti-semitic views. I was able to stop a convention of my peers there a couple years ago. I am sure it did not put a dent in their economy but anything I can do is good enough for me.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
6. It's worth it to go read the entire article
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:26 AM
Jan 2015

Where have we seen/heard this before?

Tensions reached a high point during last summer’s war in Gaza, when demonstrations turned violent with pro-Palestinian youths attacking Jewish businesses in a neighborhood known for its large Jewish population. Several synagogues were also firebombed. Demonstrators at some rallies chanted slogans like “death to the Jews” and “slaughter the Jews.”


We better wake up. That small business owner that "took a chance on France" - a country that was proactive in the Holocaust . . . Is not to blame for the ills of Muslims in the world.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
14. Good points.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jan 2015

What is really sad, some are minimizing the concerns of Jews, even to the point of mocking them. It goes to show the issue is much more disconcerting than many think.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
8. we cannot deny the rabid anti semitism of these radical muslims
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:29 AM
Jan 2015

for fear of being "critical of religion". radical muslims are anti semitic and the french jews , jews everywhere and their allies should be concerned about their well being and future attacks on them. french jews are NOT the Israeli government and have no business being singled out for what these radical muslims don't like about Israel policy and behavior. my post should be considered "stating the obvious".

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
11. It is in fact very clear that the shop was targeted because it was kosher.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jan 2015
BFMTV, a 24 hour channel, said it had conducted a telephone interview with Coulibaly, who claimed to have worked “in synchronisation” with the Charlie Hebdo killers and to have links with Isis. He targeted Jews specifically with his choice of the Kosher grocer, he said, claiming to defend "oppressed Muslims" in Palestine.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-shootings-how-sieges-at-dammartinengoele-print-works-and-jewish-grocer-ended-9968962.html

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
17. Hey! Where's the usual crowd who so quickly and deftly goes after Jews
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jan 2015

of any stripe when they offend? You know: some of these people killed in the KOSHER STORE might be those who don't want to sit next to women on the airplane. I haven't seen any of you folk around lately….Yoo-Hoo. How silent they are…AND you notice that there are few (I'll be polite and generous) posts decrying the killing of Jews for being Jews from these people who go ballistic if an olive tree is cut down.

 

OnePercentDem

(79 posts)
21. To busy making excuses
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:26 PM
Jan 2015

For the recent attacks and blaming the newspaper for bringing this on themselves. It is interesting watching the same group bashing Israel trying to spin this attack. This attack is going to be a turning point in Europe and its long overdue.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
22. The media has been mostly silent on these attacks.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:27 PM
Jan 2015

Anti-Semitism is a growing plague, and it is enabled by the silence and complacency of too many.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
24. Bibi will at French Rally tomorrow.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:28 PM
Jan 2015

I have a feeling he will return to Israel with some extra passengers on the plane.

"Excuse me Mr. prime Minister, mind if we hitch a ride with you to Israel ?"

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
27. Incredibly sad
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 12:36 AM
Jan 2015

Hopefully the shooting will bring this more into the light and pressure the government to find a solution. I have a little more faith in France finding solutions to this sort of thing then I do us here at home.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
28. this place is really fucked up right now with people denying what is happening
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 12:49 AM
Jan 2015

is it so hard to admit that there is a problem with some muslims who have been targeting and attacking jewish organizations ?

none of this means that every single person of that faith is at fault. but there is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with.

as this article shows. the attack at the grocery store did not just suddenly happen by surprise. things have been happening for a while now.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
29. The other irony.
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 03:05 AM
Jan 2015

The hero at the market was a Muslim employee, and that is being touted. It certainly shows two sides of an issue.

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