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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:02 PM Jan 2015

Attacks blamed on ‘shape-shifting Jews’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/attacks-blamed-on-shape-shifting-jews/

Sure, the horrific series of terror attacks that rocked France last week could have been carried out by Islamist terrorists. But, if you are at least one member of Paris’s French-Algerian community, it could have been the work of “magical shape-shifting Jews.”

A Daily Beast reporter told MSNBC that she had received that explanation while surveying people about the attacks that left 17 people dead, including four Jewish men, in Paris’s immigrant sections.

Many people, Dana Kennedy said, were of the opinion that Jews had staged the series of deadly terror incidents to make Muslims look bad, though one went even further with his explanation.

“One person told me that they weren’t just regular Jews that were doing this but in fact but a race of magical shape-shifting Jews that were master manipulators that could be everywhere at the same time,” Kennedy said.


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Attacks blamed on ‘shape-shifting Jews’ (Original Post) KamaAina Jan 2015 OP
I'm a shape-shifting Jew... JaneyVee Jan 2015 #1
I never knew yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #20
... LAGC Jan 2015 #36
Kitty Pryde Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #37
And Look!! yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #44
LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #46
I don't want to be a bother, Wolverine NuclearDem Jan 2015 #55
Two things are going on here that I don't like AT ALL. merrily Jan 2015 #2
agreed. this is journalismwith an agenda and the Times of Israel is very right wing cali Jan 2015 #4
I guess MSNBC has "journalism with an agenda" too Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #8
have you even bothered to read my posts on the attacks in France? cali Jan 2015 #11
Actually I have...and I was pleasantly surprised. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #18
I kind of knew that about the Times of Israel KamaAina Jan 2015 #28
Perhaps the person wished to remain anonymous KamaAina Jan 2015 #6
Fine. Then say one person said it, without implying that the French-Algerian community is connected merrily Jan 2015 #19
"though one went even further with his explanation." KamaAina Jan 2015 #31
Gosh, they are almost on par with WhiteTara Jan 2015 #52
Yes, but there is also the language that I quoted up thread that connects "at least" one person to merrily Jan 2015 #59
<<<Word!>>> Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #53
i can only really do one jewish shape-shifting trick unblock Jan 2015 #3
And what might that be? KamaAina Jan 2015 #7
Doesn't this kind of OP kind of poison the well? elias49 Jan 2015 #5
You don't think that kind of mentality is important? Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #10
Not sure what you mean 'mentallity' elias49 Jan 2015 #16
yeah, anti-semites should be free to spout their nonsense without consequence or response. unblock Jan 2015 #14
That's not what I mean! elias49 Jan 2015 #17
But when it isn't discussed, it is ignored. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #38
If one other person rises from the depths of madness elias49 Jan 2015 #45
So discussing anti-Semitism is "picking scabs?" Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #47
Those who forget the past...... Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #50
You think this person is the leftynyc Jan 2015 #54
This is hardly an isolated case. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #61
You scare me. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #64
...what? sakabatou Jan 2015 #9
Lots of conspiracy theorists have already gone there... SidDithers Jan 2015 #12
Hard to believe a DUer would use that turd Madsen as a source. zappaman Jan 2015 #23
... NuclearDem Jan 2015 #57
YIKES! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #26
OR Gordon Duff and his repulsive "Veteran's Today" filth site. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #39
How can you stomach that crap? joshcryer Jan 2015 #51
I check in on my "favourites" once in a while... SidDithers Jan 2015 #62
I'll convert if I get to be a shape shifter! tammywammy Jan 2015 #13
Me too! zappaman Jan 2015 #25
"Alice D. Sheboygan and the Magical Shape-Shifting Jews" Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #43
Perfect! zappaman Jan 2015 #60
First you have to declare leftynyc Jan 2015 #56
Can I shapeshift into someone who can stand gefilte fish first? NuclearDem Jan 2015 #58
I'm not sure leftynyc Jan 2015 #65
Never presume that people are sane. Xithras Jan 2015 #15
Shape Shifting Jews Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #21
Kicked Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #22
Skinwalkers JonLP24 Jan 2015 #24
Oh wow, the Jews have way better superpowers than gay people. Jamastiene Jan 2015 #27
What about gay Jews? branford Jan 2015 #29
Do you know how many superpowers I have!? Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #40
IF I COULD FUCKING SHAPE SHIFT YOU THINK I WOULD DO AN HOUR ON THE ELLIPTICAL EACH DAY? Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #42
You're always bragging. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #48
You are so lucky! Jamastiene Jan 2015 #49
Have any of these folks been evaluated for mental health issues? nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #30
+1 KMOD Jan 2015 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #63
isn't that the david icke theory? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #33
Ah, so that particular medieval breed of anti-Semite has crawled out from under its rock Hekate Jan 2015 #34
It's an oldy but goody. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #35
Someone's gettin good acid over there, huh? Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #41
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
55. I don't want to be a bother, Wolverine
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:08 AM
Jan 2015

But would it kill ya to trim those claws? They make such a mess with the furniture.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Two things are going on here that I don't like AT ALL.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:15 PM
Jan 2015

First and foremost, obviously, the comment about shape shifting Jews is revolting.

But second is this:

But, if you are at least one member of Paris’s French-Algerian community, it could have been the work of “magical shape-shifting Jews.”


If you believe the view expressed was the view of one person, why not simply name the person who made the vile comment instead of implying that the French-Algerian community is somehow involved in the comment of one person? On the other hand, if you believe that the comment does represent the sentiment of a significant portion of the community, as such, say so plainly and do the journalistic work necessary to back up your statement.

As this sits, though, it's an ugly bit of slanting.


I am not favoring Jews over Muslims or Muslims over Jews. I am criticizing bad journalism and smearing and bigotry in general. Those things are heinous, regardless of the identify of their target.
 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
18. Actually I have...and I was pleasantly surprised.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:45 PM
Jan 2015

I saw a side of you I hadn't seen before.

I was impressed.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
28. I kind of knew that about the Times of Israel
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:41 PM
Jan 2015

but this was so bizarre I felt it worth posting.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
19. Fine. Then say one person said it, without implying that the French-Algerian community is connected
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 09:00 PM
Jan 2015

to the statement of that one person, unless there really is some connection between the statement and the community.

I thought my prior post was clear about what my objection was. It's not that I am seeking a name.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
31. "though one went even further with his explanation."
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jan 2015
One person told me that they weren’t just regular Jews that were doing this but in fact but a race of magical shape-shifting Jews that were master manipulators that could be everywhere at the same time,” Kennedy said.

WhiteTara

(29,706 posts)
52. Gosh, they are almost on par with
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 07:49 AM
Jan 2015

magical vaginas that can repel rape attacks and unwanted pregnancies.

"Some" people are so twisted, you would think they are pretzel molds.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
59. Yes, but there is also the language that I quoted up thread that connects "at least" one person to
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:18 AM
Jan 2015

the entire French Algerian community, and the headline of the article.

I am not really sure what you are trying to say to me, or maybe what you are trying to convey to me without actually saying it. Or why.

Do you think that this particular reporter did a good and/or fair job? Or that the statement of one person who happens to be French Algerian shows that many or all French Algerians think Jews are shape shifters? (Granted, this is not an exact analogy, but please let's not get bogged down in that.)

What if there were racially motivated killings in Boston and the killers had been ID'd as Democrats. And, there had been a lot of media around this pointing out that these killings racial killings were done by Democrats,. I said something heinously racist to a reporter and the news story said, "According to at least one Massachusetts Democrat...." making it seem that my ugly statement had some connection to both the killings and to Democrats in general? Would that be conscientious and fair reporting? I know that headlines are not always written by the author of the article, but by using the passive voice (which journalists are supposed to avoid), the headline really makes it seem that the sentiment goes way beyond one person saying something.

Again, I am not saying that there is no connection, nor am I saying that there is. All I am saying is that the reporter seems to have wanted to imply that connection via a smear based on what a single asshole said, rather than by doing the work a reporter should do to establish a connection between an entire community and a very ugly comment by one person. If a journalist wishes to show that a entire community feels a certain way, the reporter should not do that by taking a bizarre and vile comment of one person. A lot of other work needed to be done first. On the other other hand, if the reporter doesn't want to do the work, they don't have the right to make the connection by smearing and implying that the view is not an isolated one.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
5. Doesn't this kind of OP kind of poison the well?
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jan 2015

Why discuss something so pathetic? It's not worth putting it out so members can try to outdo each other in their scorn of the message.
Kind of like why talk about Sarah Palin? Can anything positive come from it? Other than venting. Really annoying. It offers nothing that might be positive.

I'll never post about Glenn Beck
or that meat head with the radio program
I'll never post about Bachmann. She's history. Can't care.
And some moran that thinks there might be shape-shifting Jews - never.

And I don't mean this personally KA. I just wish everyone would try to say something meaningful, potentially constructive or say nothing.
Because NOTHING GOOD can come from ops like this.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
10. You don't think that kind of mentality is important?
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:34 PM
Jan 2015

How do you have a dialogue with that kind of mind-set ?

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
16. Not sure what you mean 'mentallity'
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:40 PM
Jan 2015

If you mean striving for a mind set that bothers to discuss the most bizarre things? IDK.
The person is ... what? Mentally ill maybe? Sick in some way. Delusional.

I see this discussion as having the equivalent value of talking about a birth defect, or a crippling injury. Sad stuff but not likely to generate anything meaningful.

unblock

(52,208 posts)
14. yeah, anti-semites should be free to spout their nonsense without consequence or response.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:39 PM
Jan 2015

and really, best we pretend there are no bigots out there at all.



 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
17. That's not what I mean!
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:43 PM
Jan 2015

But discussing it just gives it substance or something. It doesn't rise to any level of importance in my mind.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
38. But when it isn't discussed, it is ignored.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 02:45 AM
Jan 2015

Just because you ignore it, doesn't mean it will go away. I have 6 million examples.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
45. If one other person rises from the depths of madness
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 04:27 AM
Jan 2015

and claims there are shape shifting Jews destroying peace or whatever the hell the fool said, then maybe we can talk about antisemitism.
Meanwhile, do you want to spend your whole life picking at scabs?

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
47. So discussing anti-Semitism is "picking scabs?"
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 04:35 AM
Jan 2015

Are you even remotely familiar with anti-Semitism? I don't mean a big example like the Holocaust, I mean everyday anti-Semitism. Are you familiar with the history of it?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
54. You think this person is the
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jan 2015

beginning and end of antisemitism in Europe? Do you know European history at all? And I'll be damned before I let anyone on this board decide whether or when "maybe we can talk about antisemitism". Those "scabs" you're talking about include 6 million that were slaughtered.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
12. Lots of conspiracy theorists have already gone there...
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jan 2015

Dumbass Kevin Barrett, who runs Muslims for 9/11 Truth and truthjihad, is all over the attack, trying yo convince everyone it was a false flag attack by THE JOOOOS.

Then there's asshat Wayne Madsen, who is sure it was a false flag attack by Western Intelligence agencies.

Can DU's resident tin-toilers be far behind? Both Barrett and Madsen, among others, are used as sources at DU, and defended as credible by less-discerning DUers.

Sid

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
23. Hard to believe a DUer would use that turd Madsen as a source.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:03 PM
Jan 2015

If a DUer did, I'm sure they would have a good reason, right?

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
39. OR Gordon Duff and his repulsive "Veteran's Today" filth site.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 02:47 AM
Jan 2015

Then again, too many people are frolicking in the "Vineyard of the Saker" speaking their "truthtopower" to give a shit about anti-Semitism.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
51. How can you stomach that crap?
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 07:48 AM
Jan 2015

I mean, I guess I can understand what the idiot CT people are saying, and I used to be a huge climate denier debunker (and to an extent creationist debunker) but it got to this point where it wasn't worth my time to even care about what they were saying.

Just a bunch of certifiable nutjobs. :/

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
62. I check in on my "favourites" once in a while...
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 01:26 PM
Jan 2015

only because they so often appear as sources by certain DUers, trying to bolster some tin-foil argument or other.

The Alex Jones', David Dukes' and Pat Buchanans of the world are easy to spot. Everyone knows about their odious opinions.

It's writers like Paul Craig Roberts, Kevin Barrett and Wayne Madsen that need to be exposed, and treated the same way as the obvious asshats.



Sid

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
56. First you have to declare
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:09 AM
Jan 2015

your love for gefilte fish. Believe me, that ain't as easy as it sounds.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
65. I'm not sure
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 03:10 PM
Jan 2015

I'll ask at our meeting tonight held in a secret underground cave beneath the Brooklyn Bridge.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
15. Never presume that people are sane.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:40 PM
Jan 2015

Because more people than we care to admit are not.

I once met someone who genuinely believed that Christianity was a Jewish conspiracy designed to control the world, and that he was being persecuted for trying to "out" them. He explained how they used "Torish(sp?) mind control stones" to brainwash his wife and daughter so that they would leave him and destroy his life.

Mental illness comes in many forms, and some people have a VERY loose grip on reality.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
24. Skinwalkers
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:12 PM
Jan 2015

’Ánt’įįhnii are the witches who become the famous Navajo shape-shifters, the Skinwalkers. They use the animal forms they can assume to travel surreptitiously to the ’áńt’įbáhoołan, and to deliver their ’áńt’į in secret. Frequently, the words yee naaldlooshii and ’ánt’įįhnii are used interchangeably.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_%28Navajo%29#Skinwalkers:_yee_naaldlooshii

Living in Flagstaff, the subject came up and we are in the same vehicle. I asked 2 Navajo if they've seen one and both said yes and seemed serious too. One said he seen one at a distance, then reappeared halfway, then reappeared right in from of him then vanished. This he claimed happened on the reservation.

The other and her story is harder to remember. Inside her home for some reason she needed to check the window and there was one standing outside in front of the window then vanished. This was on the reservation too.

Described it as a shape shifting creature that can travel at the speed of light. This is from 2001 so my memory is hazy on the details but they didn't indicate they were messing with me and they are the type that would (especially the window one, she never messed with me or tried to be funny in that way) or any appearance they were. Whether or not they really did or they really exist, I don't know. No one I know claimed to see a "burning bush" though.

There is also a Skinwalker Ranch in Utah but is nicknamed "UFO ranch" due to the unusual sightings claims.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
27. Oh wow, the Jews have way better superpowers than gay people.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:31 PM
Jan 2015

We gay people only control the weather and have an empire and get free toasters. I want to learn how to shapeshift. I wish it was something that could be taught. I'll trade my share of the gay empire to learn how to shapeshift. I want to retain control of the weather though. I don't want tornadoes coming anywhere near me.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
42. IF I COULD FUCKING SHAPE SHIFT YOU THINK I WOULD DO AN HOUR ON THE ELLIPTICAL EACH DAY?
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 03:36 AM
Jan 2015

Shape shift this motherfuckin' spare tire from the couch, I would.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
49. You are so lucky!
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 05:05 AM
Jan 2015

You own part of the empire, control the weather, have the toaster AND can shape shift.



nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
30. Have any of these folks been evaluated for mental health issues?
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jan 2015

That was my first thought, to be honest.

Response to nomorenomore08 (Reply #30)

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
34. Ah, so that particular medieval breed of anti-Semite has crawled out from under its rock
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 12:15 AM
Jan 2015

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