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Stephen Retired

(190 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 01:40 PM Jan 2015

Who will be Hillary's running mate next year?

Personally, I'm pimping for Tom Brady, whom, sixteen days from now, will demonstrate that he is the Greatest Quarterback of All Time. But I'm also a realist, thus...


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Who will be Hillary's running mate next year? (Original Post) Stephen Retired Jan 2015 OP
Well, Booker is kind of a 3rd way neolib, so probably him. Erose999 Jan 2015 #1
Along those lines, Im bettin Hillary pix her "brotha from anotha motha" Jebbie Bush as her VP after he loses the Rethug nomination. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2015 #41
Julian Castro Skink Jan 2015 #2
Yep, agreed 100%. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #11
I think it'll be Castro too...nt SidDithers Jan 2015 #18
That's who I want! MoonRiver Jan 2015 #21
The Texas Democratic Party has printed some Clinton/Castro 2016 bumper stickers Gothmog Jan 2015 #34
Not a chance. former9thward Jan 2015 #48
No doubt about that for me elfin Jan 2015 #73
yup, almost a no brainer n/m Rosco T. Jan 2015 #77
Easy call. joshcryer Jan 2015 #88
Other: M$M n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #3
Hillary has to win the nomination first. cloudbase Jan 2015 #4
running mate winetourdriver Jan 2015 #5
Benny Netanyahu blackcrow Jan 2015 #6
"Bibi!" Of course! n/t Peregrine Took Jan 2015 #80
She's not going to be in the process that long. LeftyMom Jan 2015 #7
Come on, man! Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #90
How many did Joe lose? LeftyMom Jan 2015 #91
Gen. Wesley Clark thelordofhell Jan 2015 #8
Oh, if ONLY, lord! elleng Jan 2015 #62
Whoever Goldman Sachs approves. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #9
+1 Octafish Jan 2015 #22
Jamie Dimon AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #83
+2 L0oniX Jan 2015 #95
Why does it really matter? No matter whom she picks many democrats won't vote for her. ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #10
We'll miss you when election season hits. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #12
No you won't. ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #15
Sure we will. You'll no longer be able to post once Election Season hits. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #16
Actually I don't have to do diddly squat ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #17
Ah, but I've saved a link to your post above. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #19
Damn you really need a life, enjoy saving the link! ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #20
Yeah, that was pretty weird. The_Commonist Jan 2015 #35
Don't worry, so he saves the post, if he alerts on it when a nominee is chosen it won't go to a jury Autumn Jan 2015 #56
DU STASI? ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #82
Are you the scold police? earthside Jan 2015 #76
Note quite that strong karynnj Jan 2015 #38
Have you ever been here during a general election? cyberswede Jan 2015 #86
That sounds an awful lot like a threat. Fearless Jan 2015 #46
A threat????? MohRokTah Jan 2015 #47
However what you said comes across as hostile. Fearless Jan 2015 #49
Just remarking on the poster's remark in the context of DU rules. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #50
Being passive aggressive and dismissive of another point of view does not help. Fearless Jan 2015 #51
I was being honest in the context of this fourm. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #53
To what end? Fearless Jan 2015 #54
Uh huh..... daleanime Jan 2015 #55
Honest? Autumn Jan 2015 #60
there is no rule saying you must post positive posts about the nominee backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #57
This must be your first time on the internet. nt TeamPooka Jan 2015 #89
You are not the only one. Neither will I. But, expect a lot of Loyaly Oath demands. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #24
Bullies always do ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #25
Bullies that demand "Free Speech"....for themselves but not for others. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #27
This is a free private forum and the owners of this place can do what they want, free speech ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #29
About anything? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #31
Well I do too but the owners of the site don't share the same POV ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #33
I've been here since 2001 and have yet to have DU tell me how to vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #36
Me neither. Tired of all the Corporatist BS. benz380 Jan 2015 #32
That would be an unwise choice Renew Deal Jan 2015 #81
Many Democrats never vote for the nominee wyldwolf Jan 2015 #96
Not sure yet tabbycat31 Jan 2015 #13
Not someone from the northeast... brooklynite Jan 2015 #14
Democrats in the NorthEast blackcrow Jan 2015 #85
I don't know. I won't guess. MineralMan Jan 2015 #23
Brown of OH. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #26
Who says she's running? Man from Pickens Jan 2015 #28
Rupert Murdoch benz380 Jan 2015 #30
Hillary and Brady in the same post. Unrec. bigwillq Jan 2015 #37
She won't need one if she isn't nominated. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #39
The Big Dog deaniac21 Jan 2015 #40
... madinmaryland Jan 2015 #63
I'm not convinced she will win the nomination. Motown_Johnny Jan 2015 #42
Other: Randy of the Redwoods. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2015 #43
Goldman Sachs CentralMass Jan 2015 #44
It doesn't matter. It's irrelevent. She will lose. But for kicks let's say ... Lieberman. Fearless Jan 2015 #45
General Wesley Clark SummerSnow Jan 2015 #52
He will be Secretary of State. femmocrat Jan 2015 #64
You too, Snow! elleng Jan 2015 #66
There are some good choices... Mike Nelson Jan 2015 #58
Michelle Obama would be a great candidate. CK_John Jan 2015 #59
Jamie Dimon? backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #61
JESUS Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #65
Whomever her owners (Goldman) tells her to pick. hifiguy Jan 2015 #67
Ming the Merciless HappyMe Jan 2015 #68
Haha Basic LA Jan 2015 #69
I'm hoping for Rep. Conyers shenmue Jan 2015 #70
Castro crazylikafox Jan 2015 #71
O'Malley, Castro brothers,Brown, Warren, Cuomo, too many. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #72
Given Ferguson and Garner, I think O'Malley is out of the running for anything. Vattel Jan 2015 #74
SATAN! nt Logical Jan 2015 #75
Wait, she's already been nominated? SheilaT Jan 2015 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #79
Ooooh! Oooh! ME! Pick ME! genwah Jan 2015 #84
Raul Castro. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #87
Kissinger Erose999 Jan 2015 #92
Lloyd Blankfein L0oniX Jan 2015 #93
Bank Of America. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #94

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
41. Along those lines, Im bettin Hillary pix her "brotha from anotha motha" Jebbie Bush as her VP after he loses the Rethug nomination.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jan 2015

Gothmog

(145,794 posts)
34. The Texas Democratic Party has printed some Clinton/Castro 2016 bumper stickers
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jan 2015

We don't care which Castro brother is on the ticket but I would favor Julian

elfin

(6,262 posts)
73. No doubt about that for me
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jan 2015

Young, accomplished enough, Latino, energetic, smart, personable etc. etc.

Unless some troubling skeletons pop up, he's the one.

cloudbase

(5,526 posts)
4. Hillary has to win the nomination first.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jan 2015

We're putting the cart before the horse at this point.

I believe she's expecting a coronation in 2016 just as she did in 2008. That might not work out very well for her. Add to that the Clinton/Bush fatigue among the voters, and it's not looking as good this time around.

As the great American philosopher Lawrence Peter Berra said, "It ain't over 'til it's over."

 

Stephen Retired

(190 posts)
90. Come on, man!
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jan 2015

Why ya gotta be going there? Montana is great; no argument! But fifteen days from now, when Brady is hoisting the Lombardi Trophy over his head, he'll have played in 6 Super Bowls and won 4. How is that not the Greatest Ever???

Why, man? Just...why?

elleng

(131,292 posts)
62. Oh, if ONLY, lord!
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:20 PM
Jan 2015

He should be Sec of Defense (or State or National Security Adviser.)

I don't think he has enough/any political clout, to recommend him as VP.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. +1
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:36 PM
Jan 2015

"Summers looked at Stiglitz like Stiglitz was some kind of naive fool who'd read too many civics books."

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
83. Jamie Dimon
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:55 PM
Jan 2015

He'll help her unwind the reforms, anemic as they are, that aren't being sensitive to Wall Street's needs. The Clintons' bookend coup d'etat against meaningful regulation will then be complete.

Clinton/Dimon 2016

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/hillary-clintons-goldman-sachs-problem

 

ChosenUnWisely

(588 posts)
10. Why does it really matter? No matter whom she picks many democrats won't vote for her.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:10 PM
Jan 2015

No Hillary vote from me and I know I am not the only one.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
16. Sure we will. You'll no longer be able to post once Election Season hits.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:20 PM
Jan 2015

As soon as it's clear that the candidate is chosen, everybody on DU MUST get behind the Democratic nominee.

No exceptions.

It's the rules.

 

ChosenUnWisely

(588 posts)
17. Actually I don't have to do diddly squat
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:25 PM
Jan 2015

I just can't make posts against the 'democratic' candidate.

Actually if she is the candidate, I will end up leaving the party I have been a member of since 1975, because the party will have changed to the point that it no longer reflects my values.

But I can still post here if I want.

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
35. Yeah, that was pretty weird.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jan 2015

"...everybody on DU MUST get behind the Democratic nominee. No exceptions."

I just kept quiet when Kerry/Edwards were the nominees. I didn't MUST do anything.

And of course, the 2008 primaries made this place just about the worst place on the internet. I just disappeared from here for much of the year.

And the truth is that I haven't voted for a "Democrat" in years.
In my state (New York), a candidate can be on more than one party ticket at once. I always vote Working Families Party, because I think the Democratic Party sucks. So, I've never helped elect a Republican, but I also have let the Democratic Party know that I think it sucks. It might not be the greatest solution, but it's something.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
56. Don't worry, so he saves the post, if he alerts on it when a nominee is chosen it won't go to a jury
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:09 PM
Jan 2015
all he will do is harass you with it. People who keep a data base on DUers are hilarious.

karynnj

(59,508 posts)
38. Note quite that strong
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jan 2015

In 2004 and 2008, you could not attack, smear or argue against the nominee -- though it often took some pretty negative posts to actually get the poster tombstoned.

However, there were many who continued posting - not really jumping on to the bandwagons - but not breaking that rule. They continued to post on other races, issues and events.

As you know that DU leans left, you know that many are not AT THIS POINT behind Hillary Clinton. She is very much a prohibitive frontrunner. I wonder if it might be better strategy not to threaten other Democrats with the prospect that they will be kicked out when she wins the nomination.

In 2008, the same thing happened and it took a significant event - Bush vetoing the extension of SCHIP - that made me recognize that Kerry was not just being political in 2007 when asked about the 2008 race at a point before he endorsed anyone. His answer was to say on all the issues that were important to him - and he listed many obvious issues, EVERY Democratic candidate - even if not completely where he was - was MUCH better than Every Republican candidate. It took that veto to make me see that NO Democrat would have vetoed that bill and most Republicans would.

For 2016, I likely will be in the same place I would have been had a Democrat I did not want won the nomination. The motivation in that case might just come from comparing what the country would be like under that nominee or the Republican nominee. However, at that point, I will make an effort to identify what I do like in the nominee. This used to go without saying -- ie in 1992, when Clinton was nowhere near my favorite, I did not whine that I was just anybody but Bush -- as Clintonites Begala and Carvelle did in 2004. I looked and found reasons I could use to convince others to vote for Clinton.

However, if this place becomes nasty and seems to gleefully want to exile many long time posters, it might become a less broadbased place. I don't think that will make it better.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
49. However what you said comes across as hostile.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jan 2015

Is the point to piss off democratic voters or to convince them to vote for Hillary if she is the nominee?

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
50. Just remarking on the poster's remark in the context of DU rules.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:02 PM
Jan 2015

They know the rules since they agreed to abide by them when they signed up, just like everybody else.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
57. there is no rule saying you must post positive posts about the nominee
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:10 PM
Jan 2015

You just cant post negative posts about the nominee

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
27. Bullies that demand "Free Speech"....for themselves but not for others.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:57 PM
Jan 2015
Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one party only, no matter how big its membership may be is, no freedom at all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently.

Rosa Luxemburg

 

ChosenUnWisely

(588 posts)
29. This is a free private forum and the owners of this place can do what they want, free speech
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jan 2015

does not apply here.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
31. About anything?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:07 PM
Jan 2015

It seems to me to be a bit self-defeating if a political forum curtails political speech.

I have the archaic notion that my vote belongs to me. Not the party, not DU, not to the party purists.

 

ChosenUnWisely

(588 posts)
33. Well I do too but the owners of the site don't share the same POV
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jan 2015

If we don't like it we can leave.

The question you need to ask is do you want to participate in an echo chamber or have actual political discussion?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
36. I've been here since 2001 and have yet to have DU tell me how to vote.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:16 PM
Jan 2015

Some DU'rs seem to think that they have that right but, I ignore them.

benz380

(534 posts)
32. Me neither. Tired of all the Corporatist BS.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jan 2015

I will leave that space empty on my ballot and vote for local candidates with real Democratic values.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
13. Not sure yet
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jan 2015

I love Booker (who is my senator) but I don't think he's ready for prime time yet (he's one of the few younger Democrats I can see going places, so IMO he needs to stay put for now) and he gives no geographic advantage (unless Christie on the other ticket) as they were both elected statewide in neighboring states.

The other I really like as a running mate (or top of the ticket) is unpopular on DU is Andrew Cuomo, who can't legally be on the same ticket as her (representing the same state).

Of all the possible selections, I like Castro the most. He gives a geographic and demographic advantage that an Elizabeth Warren or Martin O'Malley cannot (young, Latino, southern).

I could care less about a progressive purity test for candidates. According to DU, 2 of the 3 Democratic presidents in my lifetime are DINOs and the 3rd, well I was an infant when he was in office and have zero knowledge of his administration firsthand. I'm not about a purity test, I'm about electability. I'd much rather have a centrist Democrat that can win a national election than run a progressive who will put up Walter Mondale numbers and end up with a President Walker/Christie/Bush/Jindal/Paul/Rubio. If that makes me a DINO so be it.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
28. Who says she's running?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jan 2015

If there's one thing Hillary is good at, it's cold, hard, and ruthless calculation. And if she's applying that skill to her own chances of becoming President, she will have to conclude that she doesn't have a realistic shot of pulling it off. She lost the only competitive election she was ever in, even though she started with such a massive lead that she herself believed the nomination to be a fait accompli - then got spanked by a junior Senator.

The only reason she is in the conversation at all is because the options for Democrats right now are so thin.

If Hillary runs, she loses. The obstacles before her - the biggest of which is her own off-putting personality - are far too large for her to overcome.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
42. I'm not convinced she will win the nomination.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jan 2015

Measuring drapes at this point, or even picking a running mate, is premature.


elleng

(131,292 posts)
66. You too, Snow!
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:32 PM
Jan 2015

lordofhell, #8, said the same thing! Makes me happy that some are thinking of him.

As I said, I don't think he has political clout to justify a VP slot, but Sec Def/State/National Security Adviser SHOULD happen! (Should HAVE happened. )

Mike Nelson

(9,980 posts)
58. There are some good choices...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:10 PM
Jan 2015

...I think Warren (gender/age) and Clark (military minded) would be considered much like her to balance the ticket - although I like them both.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
74. Given Ferguson and Garner, I think O'Malley is out of the running for anything.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:34 PM
Jan 2015

Right now Dems are not too fond of police officers violating the rights of citizens and O'Malley got his police force to do that big time in Baltimore when he was mayor.

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