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Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:23 PM Jan 2015

Hillary Clinton is the only potential candidate that both their party and Independents want to run

http://www.scribd.com/doc/252989106/CBS-News-Poll-Campaign-2016-1-18-15

The CBS poll is very interesting. It sorts the results by party. And from that you can see how much voters of each party want each candidate to run. The not so shocking result is everyone hates Palin:

"I’m going to read you a list of names. For each please tell me if you would like to see them run for president of the United States in 2016 or not or whether you don’t know enough about that person to say:"

Palin
Republicans
Yes 30 - No 59

Independents
Yes 15 - No 69

________________________________

Here are the candidates that a plurality wants to see run:

Biden
Democrats
Yes 40 - No 38

Indies
Yes 27 - No 49
________________________________

Hillary
Democrats
Yes 85 - No 11

Indies
Yes 51 - No 37

________________________________

Jeb
Republicans
Yes 50 - No 27

Indies
Yes 30 - No 42
________________________________

Ben Carson (what a joke)

Republicans
Yes 21 - No 17

Indies
Yes 12 - No 15
________________________________

Huckabee
Republicans
Yes 40 - No 29

Indies
Yes 20 - No 40

________________________________

Romney
Republicans
Yes 59 - No 26

Indies
Yes 33 - No 49
________________________________

Rubio
Republicans
Yes 26 - No 19

Indies
Yes 19 - No 30
________________________________

Scott Walker
Republicans
Yes 22 - No 12

Indies
Yes 13 - No 19

________________________________

But from all of these candidates of both parties, the only candidate encouraged to run by both Dems and Independents is Hillary.

Hillary
Democrats
Yes 85 - No 11

Indies
Yes 51 - No 37


Hillary is also the only candidate that Independents want to see run.

For republicans, I love the fact that not even republicans want Cruz, Christie, Palin, Rand Paul, Perry, and Santorum to run.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/252989106/CBS-News-Poll-Campaign-2016-1-18-15
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Hillary Clinton is the only potential candidate that both their party and Independents want to run (Original Post) Renew Deal Jan 2015 OP
But you CAN'T trust those "MSM" polls... brooklynite Jan 2015 #1
Hillary's Unfavorables are now at an all-time high, and her favorables have dropped. Tied 46-46% leveymg Jan 2015 #35
her book tour was the beginning of the bomb for her. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #40
How can this possibly be true? DU's punditry claims otherwise. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2015 #2
Facts are hard to deal with, it is good to see the numbers, the primaries are going to be exciting. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #3
This should surprise no one. However, the lack of rec's and posts under this OP BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #4
I'm surprised Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #9
KICK! BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #5
Good for her. vi5 Jan 2015 #6
if she wants some support DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #7
Jeb wants her there as well reddread Jan 2015 #8
It's not clear he will be there. Renew Deal Jan 2015 #10
hindsight broke? reddread Jan 2015 #13
I think republicans look back at Romney and consider him a better candidate than they thought Renew Deal Jan 2015 #15
I think the Republican's need to fake a lineup of candidates to cover corruption reddread Jan 2015 #19
Hillary crushes Jeb in the latest head to head. Cheerlead for Jeb elsewhere please. wyldwolf Jan 2015 #17
poll dance all you like reddread Jan 2015 #21
Oh? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #23
Cheer-lead for Jeb at your own peril here wyldwolf Jan 2015 #29
get your glasses checked. reddread Jan 2015 #33
Reddread: "Rah Rah, beat Hillary! Goooooo Jeb!" wyldwolf Jan 2015 #34
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #36
YOU said Jeb wants her. I said she crushes Jeb. YOU said I was 'poll dancing' wyldwolf Jan 2015 #37
I think DU banned the wrong poster JonLP24 Jan 2015 #45
She will beat John Ellis Bush worse than her husband beat his daddy./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #25
Im 100% certain the Bush family has a score to settle before poppy drops reddread Jan 2015 #26
Team Clinton. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #28
lol reddread Jan 2015 #30
So Jeb Bush is going to win the Republican nomination by fiat? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #32
When will there be a poll of informed people? mmonk Jan 2015 #11
Those are great numbers. i think our party starts in good shape but polls are only polls. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #12
God forbid we run our strongest candidate. That would be crazy! Metric System Jan 2015 #14
Hopefully we will have a stronger candidate than Hillary in 2016 Martin Eden Jan 2015 #22
Just like 2006. How'd that turn out again? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2015 #16
I think there's a major discrepancy here ... Martin Eden Jan 2015 #18
Most Americans are clueless. She leads because of name recognition. n/t Dawgs Jan 2015 #20
Yep. Martin Eden Jan 2015 #24
Which is why Jeb leads... um, but he doesn't. wyldwolf Jan 2015 #31
Not sure what you're getting at, but half of America probably doesn't know Jeb is W's brother. n/t Dawgs Jan 2015 #38
I'm fairly certain half the country knows the name 'Bush.' wyldwolf Jan 2015 #39
I didn't say that, and knowing the name Bush does not mean they know Jeb. Dawgs Jan 2015 #41
So Clinton leads because of name recognition, but Bush doesn't? wyldwolf Jan 2015 #43
They don't know Jeb Bush. They know George Bush. Dawgs Jan 2015 #46
so your point is Hillary is leading because she is well known. Last name has nothing to do with it. wyldwolf Jan 2015 #47
The polls back that up JonLP24 Jan 2015 #49
Who cares about indies, they are only a third of the vote. joshcryer Jan 2015 #27
...who provide the margin in most national elections. brooklynite Jan 2015 #55
That's the joke. joshcryer Jan 2015 #57
CBS poll appears to be matching another... DonViejo Jan 2015 #42
I think this is why Romney is suddenly making noise Renew Deal Jan 2015 #56
I'm not only ready for Hillary, I'm grateful for her as well. oneview Jan 2015 #44
68% say don't know enough to say on Bernie Sanders, 57% when it comes to Warren JonLP24 Jan 2015 #48
"I'm Bernie Sanders and I'm a self-avowed Socialist" brooklynite Jan 2015 #52
"I'm Bernie, a self-avowed Socialist - who looks like the frumpier brother of Michael Foot" -- oneview Jan 2015 #54
I won't agree with it - but unfortanately JonLP24 Jan 2015 #59
Hillary Clinton will be called a socialist JonLP24 Jan 2015 #58
But all she'll have to do is pointout all the DU complaints... brooklynite Jan 2015 #60
Time will tell all eventually. LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #50
The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #51
That is why the Founding father chose to make us a Republic. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #53

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
35. Hillary's Unfavorables are now at an all-time high, and her favorables have dropped. Tied 46-46%
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jan 2015

against herself.

The strength of a candidates dislikes can be the deciding factor in elections, which are often won or lost by only a few percentage points. That's why Democrats need to take a close look at the fact that as many people seem to now dislike her as would support her.

Here's the latest poll figures that show that Hillary's Q-factor unfavorables are at an all-time high, while her support has steadily eroded.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

She isn't inevitable.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
40. her book tour was the beginning of the bomb for her.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jan 2015

the book was boring and didn't sell well and her promo tv and interview tour was a disastrous kaboom, re: dead broke and all that incredible stupidity. she wasn't all that great with words before, or ever, but that book tour and fallout hurt her really bad in the 'can this person really be a good president for the 99%?' the answer is a clear NO, if she is so out of touch she has no idea what the heck Dead Broke means to these 99%. Incredible denseness with a healthy smattering of stunned.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
2. How can this possibly be true? DU's punditry claims otherwise.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:34 PM
Jan 2015


Poor Bobby Jindal, can't get no love at all!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Facts are hard to deal with, it is good to see the numbers, the primaries are going to be exciting.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jan 2015

I would bet if republicans were polled Hillary would sink very low, she is a huge threat to the GOP winning in 2016.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. This should surprise no one. However, the lack of rec's and posts under this OP
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jan 2015

IS surprising...considering that this is a Democratic Party supporting community. Well, it's supposed to be.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
15. I think republicans look back at Romney and consider him a better candidate than they thought
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:14 PM
Jan 2015

Especially in comparison to the Cruz's, Santorum's and Perry's of the world.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
19. I think the Republican's need to fake a lineup of candidates to cover corruption
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jan 2015

while the Democrats circling Hillary's wagon do not want another name out there.
One party WILL steal the election at the end, while the other WANTS
to steal it in the beginning.
fuck both of them.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
21. poll dance all you like
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jan 2015

you have so much disappointment ahead, Im gonna start feeling sorry for you right now.

Response to wyldwolf (Reply #34)

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
37. YOU said Jeb wants her. I said she crushes Jeb. YOU said I was 'poll dancing'
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jan 2015

You're denying reality while propping up Jeb. Cheerleader.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
26. Im 100% certain the Bush family has a score to settle before poppy drops
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:36 PM
Jan 2015

now which camp would frighten you more if you were in their crosshairs?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
28. Team Clinton.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jan 2015

They have demonstrated they can play hardball as well as anybody else.


Why are you convinced Jeb Bush can even get out of the Republican primaries?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
12. Those are great numbers. i think our party starts in good shape but polls are only polls.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jan 2015

We have to work hard for our candidates.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
22. Hopefully we will have a stronger candidate than Hillary in 2016
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jan 2015

Settling on a nominee nearly 2 years before the election -- with electability based on early poll results as the primary (perhaps only) criteria -- is absolutely the wrong approach to take, IMO.

The assumption that no other (read: better) Dem can possibly win the general election is a mistake, and potentially a self-fullfilling prophecy.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
18. I think there's a major discrepancy here ...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jan 2015

... between a poll nearly 2 years before the election asking people who they want to run
... and who would actually do a better job as president serving the interests of the American people.

I fully understand that getting elected is the first prerequisite.

And I hope we all understand that if we don't focus first and foremost on the best interests of the American people, desperately needed change will never happen.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
24. Yep.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:31 PM
Jan 2015

Our democracy is highly dysfunctional, focusing on personalities and the horse race instead of policy and qualifications.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
38. Not sure what you're getting at, but half of America probably doesn't know Jeb is W's brother. n/t
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:53 PM
Jan 2015
 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
41. I didn't say that, and knowing the name Bush does not mean they know Jeb.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:59 PM
Jan 2015

And, why are you getting so angry? It's okay that Hillary is getting a bump from name recognition. Doesn't mean she won't win.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
46. They don't know Jeb Bush. They know George Bush.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:13 PM
Jan 2015

Hillary is well known. Jeb is not. Last name has nothing to do with it.

Don't know why that's so hard to understand.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
47. so your point is Hillary is leading because she is well known. Last name has nothing to do with it.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:15 PM
Jan 2015

ok, got it.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
49. The polls back that up
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:25 PM
Jan 2015

Only 10% say "don't know enough to say" when it comes to Hillary Clinton, the numbers are much higher when it comes to candidates other than Clinton or Biden who most of America easily knows who they are.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
42. CBS poll appears to be matching another...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:01 PM
Jan 2015
Romney Leads the GOP Pack

A new Economist/YouGov poll shows Mitt Romney leading the GOP pack of presidential hopefuls with 28%, followed by Jeb Bush at 12%, Ben Carson at 10%, Ted Cruz at 9%, Mike Huckabee at 8%, Rand Paul at 8% and Scott Walker at 6%.

###

http://politicalwire.com/2015/01/17/romney-leads-gop-pack/


and another...

Clinton Leads Both Romney and Bush

A new Democracy Corps (D) survey shows Hillary Clinton leading Mitt Romney in a race for president, 49% to 43%, and ahead of Jeb Bush by double-digits, 52% to 40%.

###

http://politicalwire.com/2015/01/17/clinton-leads-romney-bush/

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
56. I think this is why Romney is suddenly making noise
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 10:40 PM
Jan 2015

I also have heard over the last couple years that Republicans have a new appreciation for Romney.

 

oneview

(47 posts)
44. I'm not only ready for Hillary, I'm grateful for her as well.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:06 PM
Jan 2015

People need to keep in mind how difficult it is to maintain control of the White House after a 2-term President. Bush the Father was able to pull it off after 2 terms of Reagan, but it doesn't happen very often.

But now here Democrats have a candidate with tons of experience, overwhelming poll numbers, a connection to the previous President (as his Secretary of State) but is still her own person (she wasn't his Vice President, and of course fought a hot primary against him in 2008). Hillary is going to guarantee the Democrats 12, if not 16 years in the White House.

Count your blessings!

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
48. 68% say don't know enough to say on Bernie Sanders, 57% when it comes to Warren
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jan 2015

10% for Hillary Clinton. In an era where Obama was virtually unknown before primaries and later President, I think numbers will change after they hear their message.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
52. "I'm Bernie Sanders and I'm a self-avowed Socialist"
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jan 2015

That's a message that will resonate.

"I'm Elizabeth Warren and I support Hillary Clinton" is another message that will resonate.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
59. I won't agree with it - but unfortanately
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 03:06 PM
Jan 2015

the media will spend more time obsessing over her appearance as they do often do with women in politics. All I care about are policies which is why I don't support Hillary Clinton.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
58. Hillary Clinton will be called a socialist
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jan 2015

but the 99% outnumbers the 1% so hearing them talk about policies, actions, etc will resonate. Hillary Clinton's message doesn't.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
60. But all she'll have to do is pointout all the DU complaints...
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jan 2015

...that she's a Wall Street sellout.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
50. Time will tell all eventually.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:46 PM
Jan 2015

I wouldn't be pounding the inevitable winner winner drums quite so loudly if I were a Hillary supporter. I would be studying up on what excuses to give if she does not.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
51. The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:57 PM
Jan 2015
The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather of that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections. Lord Acton

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
53. That is why the Founding father chose to make us a Republic.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 05:36 PM
Jan 2015

And created a constituiton with strong indiidual protections.

It is also why the Founding fathers set up the Senate where the Senators were appointed rather than elected.

It is also why the Founding father created the electoal college.

Yes, they feared the tyrany of the majority.

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