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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn loco parentis or just plain loco? Illinois schools can now demand students' Facebook passwords.
You might imagine that this stipulation only applies to school computers and activity on school premises. It does not. The schools may ask for passwords and search on the basis of any posting by a student at any time and in any place. And who will decide what is reasonable cause? Leigh Lewis, superintendent of Triad Community Schools Unit District 2, told Motherboard that if someone didn't cooperate, there might be trouble. Not detention, criminal charges.
Those of sharp eyes and, perhaps, parenting experience, will wonder just what private information the schools might encounter as they search for their alleged evidence. As one parent who had received the latter, Sarah Bozarth, told KTVI: "It's one thing for me to take my child's social media account in there and open it up for the teacher to look at (...) but to have to hand over your passport and personal information to your accounts to the school is just not acceptable."
More: http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/new-illinois-law-allows-schools-to-demand-students-facebook-passwords
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)would ever consider setting up a fake Facebook account.
1) Crazy Johnnie and his wildly druken sexcapades
as opposed to
2) Johnnie volunteer and alterboy.
unrepentant progress
(611 posts)They can demand any social media passwords.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)No way would I consent to this. Punitive damages would be the frosting on the cake, if successful.
Three years ago, however, 12-year-old Riley Stratton sued her Minnesota schools district after she claimed she'd been coerced into revealing her Facebook password. Last year, the case was settled with the Minnewaska Schools District paying Stratton $70,000. In this case, Stratton was accused of writing nasty things about her hall monitor.
Agony
(2,605 posts)that'll be next the way this is going...
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)under no circumstances surrender a password to anyone. There is too much chance of an account being hacked or an identity stolen.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)You know how to make out the check and thanks for tackling that college tuition for us.
TheBlackAdder
(28,188 posts)unrepentant progress
(611 posts)hunter
(38,311 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)I have no problem with parents having the passwords to their teenagers' social media account, but school authorities need to keep their noses out of it.
Also, who would be in trouble for not cooperating? The parents, the student, or both? And what, exactly, would they be charged with? I wish them luck in court, because I don't see how it would hold up.
unrepentant progress
(611 posts)Law enforcement can get Facebook (or Twitter, or whatever) to turn over your posts without your knowledge, but it generally requires a warrant (or FISA request). Schools aren't law enforcement though.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)Not that I have read any of those lately, but most websites have a TOS agreement and one of the clauses in it is not sharing passwords (I'm sure DU has something similar).
I've heard of employers doing this too. One of these days it's going to head to the Supreme Court.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)I'm pretty sure what that means is that people are not supposed to give their passwords to someone else in order that the other person can use that account.
mopinko
(70,090 posts)unrepentant progress
(611 posts)However it may be individual schools over-reaching. Here is more info.
Nowhere in the law does it explicitly state that schools are allowed to ask for students' passwords, but one section of it says that schools must implement a policy that includes a "process to investigate whether a reported act of bullying is within the permissible scope of the district's or school's jurisdiction." The cybersecurity law, when combined with one that went into effect last year specifically governing social media, may have spurred these letters.
That law states that elementary and secondary schools must notify parents if they plan to ask for a password, and that it can be asked for if a student violates policy. The cyberbullying law codifies the idea that Facebook harassment is a violation of code policy, which is why you see these letters popping up.
Leigh Lewis, superintendent of the Triad district, told me that if a student refuses to cooperate, the district could presumably press criminal charges.
More: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/illinois-says-students-have-to-give-up-facebook-passwords-or-face-prosecution
And here's the model letter from the Illinois Principals Association website.
More: http://www.ilprincipals.org/model-student-handbook/chapter-6-discipline-and-conduct/6.70-e1-letter-to-parents-guardians-regarding-access-to-student-social-networking-passwords-and-websites
mopinko
(70,090 posts)iow, accused of a crime.
not any kid.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)I would send back a one word response, on a nice note card of course, that simply read "No."
Glengoolie
(39 posts)This is where the abdication of parental responsibility leads us...
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)(at least according to mine). Now if they asked for the tumbler accounts...that might be trouble!