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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy anti-vaxer's stupid, irrational and greedy decisions are getting others sick.
Congratulations anti-vaxers you have succeeded in causing a measles epidemic in the heart of your empire of lies (orange county). The vaccination rate in many of these places has plummeted from 3% to as low as 12% in recent decades. We are now all facing the consequences for this utter lunacy.
Worst of all, it isn't just anti-vaxxers who are getting sick. Vaccinations are not 100% effective (although they are better than 90% effective) and not all people can get them (like the immuno-compromised). When vaccination rates are in the high 90% enough people are immune that even if one person gets sick then the probability of them coming into contact with someone else who isn't immune is low. When you look at the statistics, you realize that each percentage increase in immunity makes it exponentially harder for the disease to make the multiple jumps it needs to become epidemic. Sadly, the inverse is also true.
In 2005 there were 15 cases of Measles in the Americas. In 2014 there were 3100.
Again Congratulations anti-vaxers, you've officially revived measles as an American Epidemic.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)OP sucks.
I would not listen to a word you say because of the way you say it.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)It is essentially a religion at this point and they will continue to preach until they are drowning in the blood of the people they killed.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Maybe take some time off and get a hobby.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Orrex
(63,208 posts)It might be a bit over the top to declare that anti-vaxxers themselves are stupid, it is undeniable that their reasons for choosing not to vaccinate are stupid indeed.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Orrex
(63,208 posts)Way down on the list, one of those hobbies is making sport of anti-vaxxers who make stupid decisions.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)maybe you could find a vaccine for that?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)not to convince anti-vaxxers to change...but to convince others that joining their brigade would be a mistake.
In other words, making anti-vaxxers subject to laughter might save herd immunity.
See: birthers.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Needs to be said.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Same with the most recent outbreaks of pertussis and perhaps the NHL mumps cluster. I'm in no way going to defend the idiots who still think Andrew Wakefield and Jenny McCarthy are right but to presume that outbreaks are caused by anti-vaxxers is not good science.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Archae
(46,327 posts)A video from Andrew Wakefield, on a web site that makes claims like "Sean Hannity has been fired at Fox News."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017238382
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I was going to say that it's too bad there isn't a vaccination to prevent teh stupid, but even if one was available it wouldn't help these people.
If your "personal beliefs" about vaccines (aka science based medicine) are harming other people, you should stay the fuck home.
Just because you don't think you need to vaccinate your kids to keep them safe doesn't mean the rest of us don't need protection from them.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)My kid has been vaccinated against everything. If the doctor says she needs it she gets the vaccination. I worked in a hab center for six years and I saw what could happen without the vaccinations. Most of the damage was from high fevers. It's awful to think about and I wouldn't dream of risking my kid in any way, shape or form when it doesn't need to happen.
The link below includes a statement by the author Roald Dahl, whose daughter Olivia died at the age of seven from measles. I've read it many times over the years in some form or another and it always makes me realize that I've made the right decision.
http://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/blogs/ojohn/how-dangerous-measles
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Awful drive. Lorries kept holding us up on narrow roads. Got to hospital. Ambulance went to wrong entrance. Backed out. Arrived. Young doctor in charge. Mervyn and he gave her 3mg sodium amatol. I sat in hall. Smoked. Felt frozen. A small single bar electric fire on wall. An old man in next room. Woman doctor went to phone. She was trying urgently to locate another doctor. He arrived. I went in. Olivia lying quietly. Still unconscious. She has an even chance, doctor said. They had tapped her spine. Not meningitis. Its encephalitis. Mervyn left in my car. I stayed. Pat arrived and went in to see Olivia. Kissed her. Spoke to her. Still unconscious. I went in. I said, Olivia Olivia. She raised her head slightly off pillow. Sister said dont. I went out. We drank whiskey. I told doctor to consult experts. Call anyone. He called a man in Oxford. I listened. Instructions were given. Not much could be done. I first said I would stay on. Then I said Id go back with Pat. Went. Arrived home. Called Philip Evans. He called hospital. Called me back. Shall I come? Yes please. I said Id tell hospital he was coming. I called. Doc thought I was Evans. He said Im afraid shes worse. I got in the car. Got to hospital. Walked in. Two doctors advanced on me from waiting room. How is she? Im afraid its too late. I went into her room. Sheet was over her. Doctor said to nurse go out. Leave him alone. I kissed her. She was warm. I went out. She is warm. I said to doctors in hall, Why is she so warm? Of course, he said. I left.
Thanks for posting that link, I'm glad my parents knew enough to get me vaccinated. My mom was a refugee in Germany during WWII and didn't graduate from high school, she may not have understood the science but she was intimately familiar with disease and its victims.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)Every time someone has asked me why I vaccinate my daughter I always think of what Dahl said about his little Olivia.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Sonoma and Mendocino counties.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)it's certainly ignorance and irrationality.
And it's killing people.