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sendero

(28,552 posts)
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:02 PM Jan 2015

Even though I've lost all faith in NPR...

.... I have a long commute to work and still listen most weekdays.

Today, for the first time on Morning Edition, I heard them discuss the TPP. Guess what their focus was? Not on the substance of the trade agreement, which is somewhat secret and definitely not in the interest of most Americans. No, it was about wildlife poaching and how the TPP could curtail it.

Never mind that the leverage they claim the TPP would offer is dubious at best, they have never bothered to even talk about the substance of the proposed TPP before, and its ramifications to the average American.

It is astounding how low NPR has fallen. They are useless, Fox News with a supposed liberal bias.

Please do not waste your money supporting them, clearly they are getting quite enough from the corporate world.

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Even though I've lost all faith in NPR... (Original Post) sendero Jan 2015 OP
So Obama is going after the rhino horn and elephant tusk trade? Sopkoviak Jan 2015 #1
Sure. merrily Jan 2015 #8
Did they get into detail about how the TPP would reduce poaching? My inner cynic is guessing... arcane1 Jan 2015 #2
That's exactly what I was thinking 2naSalit Jan 2015 #4
I realize this is completely unrelated to your OP; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #3
Cue the Twilight Zone misic!!! 2naSalit Jan 2015 #5
That's what I was thinking ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #27
The Universe Hears You And Is Speaking To You... Muahaha! freshwest Jan 2015 #25
And this is only because they think there is more "conservative" money for them a kennedy Jan 2015 #6
Suggestion: If you're going to spend money to listen to the radio, satellite is 99% more world wide wally Jan 2015 #7
Raising big money from big donors, as opposed to ads, keeps them independent. merrily Jan 2015 #9
heh.. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #12
That's really machiavellian. NPR's audience is kinda upscale, kinda green -- what better way ND-Dem Jan 2015 #10
^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #13
They lost me a long time ago w. their Gates-funded education commercials.... Smarmie Doofus Jan 2015 #11
They are much more dangerous than Fox. RW propaganda from a phony "liberal" source is more Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #14
This ^ newthinking Jan 2015 #16
Anything RW from any supposedly liberal source is very dangerous. merrily Jan 2015 #19
The thing is they have local zentrum Jan 2015 #15
Not.. sendero Jan 2015 #26
Call 'em up. zentrum Jan 2015 #30
I've long since given up..... sendero Jan 2015 #31
Same here. zentrum Jan 2015 #33
Fresh Air and This American Life are just about all I can stand anymore Orrex Jan 2015 #17
To think I used to give them bvf Jan 2015 #20
I had similar thoughts as I listened Buenaventura Jan 2015 #18
If you have a long commute, I'm going to suggest SheilaT Jan 2015 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #22
I only listen to Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me. sakabatou Jan 2015 #23
and reruns of Click and Clack the Tappet Brothers..... a kennedy Jan 2015 #28
The Corporate RW have taken over at least partial control, or more, of NPR nikto Jan 2015 #24
Former long time listener myself. One good thing they have done is to singlehandedly germinate the corkhead Jan 2015 #29
Great post!!!!! n/t Strelnikov_ Jan 2015 #35
NPR lost me in the '90s somewhere Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #32
Greenwashed corporatism. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #34
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. Did they get into detail about how the TPP would reduce poaching? My inner cynic is guessing...
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:14 PM
Jan 2015

They'll just make poaching legal. Then, if we were to, say, outlaw ivory sales in the U.S., we could get sued by the poachers.

But it would curtail poaching!

2naSalit

(84,854 posts)
4. That's exactly what I was thinking
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:19 PM
Jan 2015

when I herd that crock of poo this morning. I have come to the conclusion, a couple years ago, that they have become a propaganda tool.

Wish I had access to other news on the radio in the morning. I only get one radio station and the NPR station from mormon university is all I get. If you think the national news is bad, you should hear the local/regional news in this area... as told by mormons... it could make your ears turn into clumps of salt.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. I realize this is completely unrelated to your OP; but, ...
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:16 PM
Jan 2015

a funny thing happened today (and has happened several time over the last couple of months) ... four times today, I went web-surfing while waiting for someone to complete their portion of a project, so I could continue with my part ... I was, also, listening to NPR. Each time I clicked to open an article, NPR did a segment on that particular topic!

a kennedy

(29,246 posts)
6. And this is only because they think there is more "conservative" money for them
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jan 2015

To tap into. DESPISE NPR.

world wide wally

(21,696 posts)
7. Suggestion: If you're going to spend money to listen to the radio, satellite is 99% more
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:32 PM
Jan 2015

satisfying than RW NPR.
Trust me on this one and look into it.

FYI : When you count the time that NPR spends on pledge drives, they Ctually have more advertising minutes in a year than commercial radio.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. Raising big money from big donors, as opposed to ads, keeps them independent.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jan 2015

Well, not so independent from the big donors, of course.

But it seems to make a lot of sense when you hear it.

Unless you think about it.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
10. That's really machiavellian. NPR's audience is kinda upscale, kinda green -- what better way
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jan 2015

to introduce TPP to the clueless among their listeners?

Targeted presentation to sell TPP

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
11. They lost me a long time ago w. their Gates-funded education commercials....
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jan 2015

.... dressed up as legit reportage.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
14. They are much more dangerous than Fox. RW propaganda from a phony "liberal" source is more
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jan 2015



dangerous than from a source everyone knows is crap.








zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. The thing is they have local
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jan 2015

Last edited Thu Jan 29, 2015, 06:47 PM - Edit history (1)

….affiliates that do do progressive shows. By progressive, I mean pro-labor, or shows exposing the racist reality in many police shootings. They carry Bill Moyer's radio show and Robert Scheer and Harry Shearer. I give to the best local station—not the mother ship. It's a tough call.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
30. Call 'em up.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jan 2015

Tell them you want Moyers. Not that that's enough to be an NPR member but at least give them a hard time.

Prairie Home Companion, if you can take the music, sneaks in progressive values too and mocks Republicans. Dallas is really scary if too right wing for Garrison Keillor.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
31. I've long since given up.....
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 09:10 PM
Jan 2015

.... being a member, by 2002 it was obvious they were just another MSM lie factory.

I really don't give a shit about public radio any more, they are not interested in what their listeners want or they would have found a way to remain listener-supported instead of selling out.

While I'm here let me admit that I love Fresh Air, This American Life, Car Talk and sometimes Radio Lab. What I don't love is their news organization that has become the master of lying by omission.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
33. Same here.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

I pretty much turn it off when the news comes on---which is their most important programming. Their mission really.

But I have a guilty conscience because of all those other programs. Besides the ones you mention, there's Moyer's and Company, Le Show, Whad'ya Know, Says Who?, Ted Talks Radio, The Moth Radio Hour, Selected Shorts, LA Theater Works, Bullseye, Snap Judgement, Invisibilia, Reveal, BBC's World Have Your Say, Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, To the Best of Our Knowledge.

That's a lot of guilt. But they did cheerlead up to the Iraq war and I can't send money to an outfit that won't do real journalism and on top of it gives cover to the Republican mind set.

Orrex

(62,994 posts)
17. Fresh Air and This American Life are just about all I can stand anymore
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:05 AM
Jan 2015
On Being is often interesting, and they have a few shows that seem to jump around the schedule.

Otherwise I put NPR on simply so that my commute isn't silent.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
20. To think I used to give them
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:42 AM
Jan 2015

kudos for including P.J. O'Rourke in their game show stable.

No more.

Buenaventura

(364 posts)
18. I had similar thoughts as I listened
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:12 AM
Jan 2015

to the same program this morning. I was disgusted. What else to listen to? I guess I’ll just sing in the shower.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
21. If you have a long commute, I'm going to suggest
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 01:00 AM
Jan 2015

listening to books on tape or CD. If you can afford it, The Learning Company has absolutely amazing things to listen to. Otherwise, your local library should be a good source.

Oh, and if there's a chance you have a community radio station in your area, you might want to see if you can listen to Amy Goodman, or the BBC, or any other such shows.

Good luck. I know that when you have a long commute you'd like to somehow make the time spent worthwhile.

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nikto

(3,284 posts)
24. The Corporate RW have taken over at least partial control, or more, of NPR
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 01:07 AM
Jan 2015

As they always planned to do.

Another American corporate success story, just like Public Education "reform".

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
29. Former long time listener myself. One good thing they have done is to singlehandedly germinate the
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:55 AM
Jan 2015

fledgling podcast industry. Instead of NPR in the morning I listen to a repeat of Thom Hartman streamed from a nashville station (without commercials btw), then it is on to The Majority Report with Sam Seder, and Citizen Radio podcasts. Still listen to TAL podcasts though.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
32. NPR lost me in the '90s somewhere
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 09:15 PM
Jan 2015

I think it was a combination of their increasingly right-wing slant, Cokie Roberts, and that awful music they'd play between segments

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