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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:15 AM Jan 2015

Michael Moore confirms: Clint Eastwood threatened to kill me at an awards dinner

29 JAN 2015

Filmmaker Michael Moore confirmed a long-standing story in a post on his Facebook page, saying colleague Clint Eastwood threatened his life in January 2005.

“Ten years ago this past week, Clint Eastwood stood in front of the National Board of Review awards dinner and announced to me and to the crowd that he would ‘kill’ me if I ever came to his house with my camera for an interview,” Moore wrote. “‘I’ll kill you,’ he declared.”

The Washington Examiner reported at the time that Eastwood, who was being honored for his film Million Dollar Baby, slammed Moore for his on-camera confrontation with then-National Rifle Association president Charleton Heston in his documentary Bowling With Columbine.


“Michael Moore and I actually have a lot in common,” Eastwood said from the stage. “We both appreciate living in a country where there’s free expression. But, Michael, if you ever show up at my front door with a camera, I’ll kill you.”

Moore corroborated the Examiner‘s story, saying that he laughed nervously along with the rest of the audience, thinking Eastwood was making a joke.

“Having just experienced a half-dozen assaults in the previous year from crazies upset at Fahrenheit 9/11 and my anti-war Oscar speech, plus the attempt by a right wing extremist to blow up my house (he was caught in time and went to prison), I was a bit stunned to hear Eastwood, out of the blue, make such a violent statement,” Moore wrote.

However, he stated, the audience’s mood changed when Eastwood repeated the threat, saying, “I mean it. I’ll shoot you.”

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/michael-moore-confirms-clint-eastwood-threatened-to-kill-me-at-an-awards-dinner/

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Michael Moore confirms: Clint Eastwood threatened to kill me at an awards dinner (Original Post) ErikJ Jan 2015 OP
Moore would do well to just stay away, then. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #1
Agreed. After all its risky going to the house of a guy who talks to empty chairs. nt cstanleytech Jan 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #2
Vaguely reminiscent of a Family Guy plot.... MADem Jan 2015 #4
Yes he did. There was even a DU thread about it at the time. pa28 Jan 2015 #3
Eastwood is a Republican. Gung ho, 'patriot' like Ronald Reagan, he is being used to promote the War sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #12
Clint Eastwood lost his shit a while ago. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #5
I was shocked by Dennis Miller...although, I didn't care much for his show in the 90's anyway. :) C Moon Jan 2015 #9
Nothing says "funny" like spewing bile. merrily Jan 2015 #10
In my experience Go Vols Jan 2015 #6
It's sort of like Palin publishing that website with gunsights on various KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #17
I like Moore, but I don't think Eastwood would threaten him in front of a crowd if he was serious. merrily Jan 2015 #8
I'm not liking Eastwood's politics (of course), but I think Moore is being oversensitive here. C Moon Jan 2015 #11
Moore didn't initiate the story, he is verifying it. Eastwood is a Hollywood Republican, like Reagan sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #13
Father Time will soon make Eastwood's day. Lint Head Jan 2015 #14
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2015 #15
Moore should show up with Joe Pesci. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #16
Yes! "What's so funny about that joke? Are you talkin' to me? To my guy Mikey here???..." stevenleser Jan 2015 #30
awwww uh um er . . . JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #33
Charming. Violent talking man who ended up talking to an empty Angry Chair at his mittload's Cha Jan 2015 #18
The cringe-factor was so real there. StrictlyRockers Jan 2015 #21
LOL.. I read that as "crime" factor @ first. I was hoping mitt was enjoying it in the wings or Cha Jan 2015 #22
Well that's not a threat hfojvt Jan 2015 #19
Just like the good old days RandiFan1290 Jan 2015 #23
I am not pleased with his treatment of Heston reddread Jan 2015 #24
Eastwood is a disturbed lunatic Triana Jan 2015 #20
Eastwood is a jazz fanatic reddread Jan 2015 #25
Anyone who talks to empty chairs as political speech is... Triana Jan 2015 #27
you have the order reversed reddread Jan 2015 #29
Tx for the explanation. I understand. n/t Triana Jan 2015 #31
Yeah, I wonder if he doesn't recall all his past movie roles as reality at this point. raouldukelives Jan 2015 #32
Clint always had a violent bent. He's a tool of the war makers. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #26
Old dried up leather senile trigger squeezer has a shotgun in every room of the house, empty paper lonestarnot Jan 2015 #28

Response to ErikJ (Original post)

pa28

(6,145 posts)
3. Yes he did. There was even a DU thread about it at the time.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:33 AM
Jan 2015

I'm a big fan. Still, what an asshole thing to say.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Eastwood is a Republican. Gung ho, 'patriot' like Ronald Reagan, he is being used to promote the War
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:10 AM
Jan 2015

Machine. Too bad Ronnie sort of wasted that role.

Otherwise, General Electric would be running Clint's Campaign and we would be stuck with another Hollywood 'actor' in the WH.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
5. Clint Eastwood lost his shit a while ago.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:49 AM
Jan 2015

He divorced his wife, Dina, after some 17 years of marriage and started keeping company with the rightwing. Reminds me of Dennis Miller's descent into horribleness.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
6. In my experience
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:50 AM
Jan 2015

people that make such a threat seldom carry thru.

If Clint said this,it is conspiracy to murder?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
17. It's sort of like Palin publishing that website with gunsights on various
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:19 AM
Jan 2015

Democrats' names. There are plenty of nuts out there with access to firearms who see this as greenlighting an attack "to save the nation" (or some such malarkey).

It's not difficult to see this as incitement to (stochastic) violence, i.e., bumping right up against a long-standing limit to the First Amendment right to free speech. (The right to free speech does not give anyone the right to threaten imminent violence. The fact that Eastwood couched his threat in conditional terms -- If . . . then -- keeps him within the First Amendment but just barely, imo.)

Moore is absolutely right to have armed guards protecting him at all times. In fact, I've read somewhere that Moore employs former Navy SEALS for his guards.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. I like Moore, but I don't think Eastwood would threaten him in front of a crowd if he was serious.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:02 AM
Jan 2015

We've seen the empty chair routine and so we've gotten a glimpse of what Eastwood thinks will go over big in front of a crowd in real life.

But, kudos to Moore to speaking out on subjects that need ventilating, knowing that the RW can be dangerous (even if Eastwood is not out to kill him).

Clint, stick to movies. IRL, you just embarrass yourself and those you are trying to help

Michael, just stay off his lawn anyway.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
11. I'm not liking Eastwood's politics (of course), but I think Moore is being oversensitive here.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:08 AM
Jan 2015

It's obviously a celebrity roast kind of joke.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. Moore didn't initiate the story, he is verifying it. Eastwood is a Hollywood Republican, like Reagan
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:15 AM
Jan 2015

Republicans like their 'fantasy heroes'. Problem with Clint is, he actually thinks he really is 'Dirty Harry'. I guess acting for so long can confuse a person. See Ronnie again.

What is laughable is how the Right accuses the Left of being 'Hollywood Commies'. While THEY have enlisted more ACTORS into politics that the Left, that I recall.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
30. Yes! "What's so funny about that joke? Are you talkin' to me? To my guy Mikey here???..."
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jan 2015

"... is Mikey a clown? Does he amuse you?"


Cha

(297,190 posts)
18. Charming. Violent talking man who ended up talking to an empty Angry Chair at his mittload's
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:39 AM
Jan 2015

rnconference.. how'd that work out for ya, Clint?

He's made good movies but he has this idiot side that won't be denied.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
21. The cringe-factor was so real there.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:20 AM
Jan 2015

I remember some reaction shots of Republicans looking aghast at his rambling diatribe to an empty chair.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
22. LOL.. I read that as "crime" factor @ first. I was hoping mitt was enjoying it in the wings or
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:50 AM
Jan 2015

wherever they had him perched.

We were loving it! When I heard Clint was going to be there I was concerned that a lot of Indies would fall for Mr Chrysler-Super Bowl Eastwood. He actually did give America a gift .. he just didn't know it.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
19. Well that's not a threat
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:46 AM
Jan 2015

not unless you cross the line.

I thought the Heston scene was one of the low points of Bowling.

Watching that old man shuffle away from Moore in his own house just made Moore look like an a$$hole.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
24. I am not pleased with his treatment of Heston
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 09:47 AM
Jan 2015

That was poorly executed and badly timed.
opportunistic exploitation that served the message poorly.
people who can see that are not automatically right wing.
although the overwhelming majority of kneejerk Moore bashers
MOST DEFINITELY are.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
25. Eastwood is a jazz fanatic
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 09:52 AM
Jan 2015

and according to local lore a very big animal lover.
I think it is too easy to simplify his motives or outlook.
considering what passes for news reporting these days,
being outraged by yet another NSA friendly box office product seems peculiar.
I wont be seeing the movie, but I may have to watch
the empty chair act someday.

Clearly, he may have been deeply offended by Moore's tactics with Heston.
I think that is absolutely understandable.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
27. Anyone who talks to empty chairs as political speech is...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jan 2015

...well - a little off his rocker, IMO. If that was some sort of movie role I could see it but..well what I was disturbing. And not just to me. Millions found it strange, to say the least. Then, threatening Michael Moore's life? Seriously? I'm not concerned with Moore's "tactics with Heston". I AM VERY concerned with the NRA's tactics with what is supposed to be OUR government. And with their indifference and absolute lack of conscience when it comes to needless and preventable killing and death. And then Eastwood threatens to kill Moore. The same guy who was talking to the empty chair as political speech.

And I'm supposed to feel all this is A-OK because the guy likes jazz and animals?



Ummm. NO.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
29. you have the order reversed
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jan 2015

for all the difference that makes.
Because I perceive a few circumstantial elements rather than proceeding straight to two minute hate
does not mean I am pro-NRA or any sort of weapons proliferation or violence.
I wasnt clear enough, I simply suspect there is some substance between Eastwood's ears, and his opinions
might not be simple-minded or easily sussed. I can see exactly why he might have been offended if Heston was a friend.

look at all the hate Jay Leno elicits around here?
either Democrats dont know their own, or right wing trolls cant hide their contempt.
Moore certainly has that effect.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
32. Yeah, I wonder if he doesn't recall all his past movie roles as reality at this point.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:35 AM
Jan 2015

"I cleaned up the streets of San Francisco and lost a leg in the civil war!"

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
28. Old dried up leather senile trigger squeezer has a shotgun in every room of the house, empty paper
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:03 AM
Jan 2015

bag.

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