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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 10:37 AM Feb 2015

Does FOX News fund terrorism?

I was reading this article titled 'Pre-9/11 Ties Haunt Saudis as New Accusations Surface' and in it states, speaking about Al Qaeda donors: "A third prominent name Mr. Moussaoui listed was Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a fabulously wealthy investor who whose television channels air racy music videos and who employs men and women side by side in his offices". A quick google search shows that Prince Alwaleed is the 2nd largest shareholder of NewsCorp behind the Murdoch family. Now, the Prince didn't take stock until 2008 I believe, but is still accused of donating millions to Al Qaeda in the 80s and 90s, and possibly even still to this day(?)

Of course he denies the accusation by pointing out that Moussaoui was deemed criminally insane (even though he helped strategically plan 9/11), but that is obviously what one would say when denying such allegations, and it seems no one is really following his or the Saudi's money (Didn't Bush even fly Saudi's out on 9/11?). Could it be possible that every advertiser that runs commercials on FOXNews which makes shareholders richer is unknowingly funding terrorism, or am I over-thinking this? Also, pretty crazy to think 2 foreign media moguls, an Australian and a Saudi Prince, teamed up in 2008 to make money bashing the US President while the so-called 'patriots' (pinheads) sit on their couches making money for foreigners to bash the Prez 24/7.

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Does FOX News fund terrorism? (Original Post) JaneyVee Feb 2015 OP
They sure give it lots of free advertising... Wounded Bear Feb 2015 #1
The answer: YES. Faux News Channel promotes and funds terrorism, domestic as well as foreign. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #2
That question is a haunting one. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #7
Bingo! It's self serving for them to do so. ffr Feb 2015 #15
Even if it is so, the Saudis are off-limits for the US-government. DetlefK Feb 2015 #3
Which is why we need to ween ourselves of using oil ffr Feb 2015 #16
k&r Thanks for posting the bold truth. nt misterhighwasted Feb 2015 #4
YES Iliyah Feb 2015 #5
Hearst started what Fox has almost perfected olddots Feb 2015 #6
Alwaleed just dumped most of his shares in Fox starroute Feb 2015 #8
Apple sure did, then. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #9
Fox is being thanked by ISIS for the full video because a major American media post can not be blocked. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #10
Rupert Murdoch does jobs and such for CIA Octafish Feb 2015 #11
this is worth an OP itself. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #19
9/11...Saudis Thespian2 Feb 2015 #12
And it pisses me off to think that no "reporter" sought to ask Bush about this. KansDem Feb 2015 #14
Of course they do. librechik Feb 2015 #13
Yes. nt City Lights Feb 2015 #17
Indirectly, at least. Orsino Feb 2015 #18
For a network like FOX News Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #20
Pictures: johnnyreb Feb 2015 #21
Jon Stewart, "The Parent Company Trap" - August 23, 2010 johnnyreb Feb 2015 #22

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. The answer: YES. Faux News Channel promotes and funds terrorism, domestic as well as foreign.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 10:53 AM
Feb 2015

After showing ISIS' video burning of the 26 year young Jordanian pilot, after inciting mass hysteria with their chosen-patriot-of-the-day, Clive Bundy, and defend his nutcrackers who were pointing guns at Federal officers, and after having the second largest shareholder of Faux News Channel who is rumored to be donating millions to Al Qaeda and, I'm assuming here, their "spinoff", ISIS...how can anyone believe otherwise?

The question is...why are they allowed to continue?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
7. That question is a haunting one.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:15 AM
Feb 2015

And I agree with you and the OP. I do believe they fund and promote terrorism.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
15. Bingo! It's self serving for them to do so.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:53 PM
Feb 2015

Nearly every headline that Fox Entertainment titles has to do with something that can insight:

1) shock
2) outrage
3) fear

It is about entertaining an audience that feeds off such information and if they can throw in a few whisper campaigns targeting, in just so happens, democrats by placing bulls-eye target symbols on their faces or districts and within weeks one gets shot in public by one of their viewers, that's just a bonus.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. Even if it is so, the Saudis are off-limits for the US-government.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 10:55 AM
Feb 2015

The US is friends with militant islamists who behead people and have oil.
The US is enemies with militant islamists who behead people and have no oil.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
16. Which is why we need to ween ourselves of using oil
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:55 PM
Feb 2015

Nothing good comes of it.

All the more reason to buy hybrids or electric.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. YES
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:08 AM
Feb 2015

Last edited Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Their in your face propaganda is daily against any American government except for the one they approve - GOP terrorism.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
6. Hearst started what Fox has almost perfected
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:14 AM
Feb 2015

Yep the media is the message and the message is fear between commercials .

starroute

(12,977 posts)
8. Alwaleed just dumped most of his shares in Fox
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:18 AM
Feb 2015

Got too embarrassing, I guess.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswright/2015/02/04/why-is-a-saudi-prince-selling-out-of-news-corp/

The Prince hasn’t sold out completely – he still owns about 1% of the company, as well as a separate 6.6% shareholding in 21st Century Fox Inc which in itself is worth about $1.7 billion – but he previously also held 6.6% of News Corp NWSA -0.56%, or a total of 13.184 million class B shares. He’s shed all but two million of them.

The sale, which Kingdom Holding disclosed in a statement today, actually took place during a portfolio review last year and was largely completed in the first half of 2014, but has only just been made public. The sale generated US$188 million which the Price and Kingdom Holding will now deploy elsewhere.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. Fox is being thanked by ISIS for the full video because a major American media post can not be blocked.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:28 AM
Feb 2015

They are copying and spreading the video using the Fox supplied distribution network.

The video is the TOP of their fucking world wide website!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
11. Rupert Murdoch does jobs and such for CIA
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:29 AM
Feb 2015

They've been doing business with all kinds, terrorists, friends of Poppy, etc.



Murdoch, Scaife and CIA Propaganda

Special Report: The rapid expansion of America’s right-wing media began in the 1980s as the Reagan administration coordinated foreign policy initiatives with conservative media executives, including Rupert Murdoch, and then cleared away regulatory hurdles.

By Robert Parry

EXCERPT...

Helping Murdoch

Murdoch, who became a naturalized citizen of the United States in 1985 to meet a regulatory requirement that U.S. TV stations must be owned by Americans, benefited from his close ties to both U.S. and British officialdom.

On Monday, the UK’s Independent reported that Ed Richards, the retiring head of the British media regulatory agency Ofcom, accused British government representatives of showing favoritism to Murdoch’s companies.

Richards said he was “surprised” by the informality, closeness and frequency of contact between executives and ministers during the failed bid by Murdoch’s News Corp. for the satellite network BSkyB in 2011. The deal was abandoned when it was discovered that journalists at Murdoch’s News of the World tabloid had hacked the phone of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler and others.

“What surprised everyone about it – not just me – was quite how close it was and the informality of it,” Richards said, confirming what had been widely reported regarding Murdoch’s access to powerful British politicians dating back at least to the reign of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s. The Reagan documents suggest that Murdoch built similarly close ties to leading U.S. politicians in the same era.

In 1983, Murdoch’s rising media empire was still based in Australia with only a few U.S. properties, such as the Star tabloid and the New York Post. But he was eyeing expansion into the U.S. media market. In 1984, he bought a stake in 20th Century Fox and then six Metromedia television stations, which would form the nucleus of Fox Broadcasting Company, which was founded on Oct. 9, 1986.

At the time, Murdoch and other media moguls were lobbying for a relaxation of regulations from the Federal Communications Commission, a goal that Reagan shared. Under FCC Chairman Mark Fowler, the Reagan administration undertook a number of steps favorable to Murdoch’s interests, including increasing the number of TV stations that any single entity could own from seven in 1981 to 12 in 1985.

In 1987, the “Fairness Doctrine,” which required political balance in broadcasting, was eliminated, which enabled Murdoch to pioneer a more aggressive conservatism on his TV network. In the mid-1990s, Murdoch expanded his political reach by founding the neoconservative Weekly Standard in 1995 and Fox News on cable in 1996. At Fox News, Murdoch has hired scores of prominent politicians, mostly Republicans, putting them on his payroll as commentators.

CONTINUED...

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/31/murdoch-scaife-and-cia-propaganda/



The Big Payback is Hawking War.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
12. 9/11...Saudis
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:32 AM
Feb 2015

including members of Osama bin Ladin's family were in the US. Some were in New York meeting with a Bush family organization...the Carlyle Group. After 9/11, planes were allowed to fly around the US gathering up family members who were then flown back to Saudi Arabia. The only planes allowed to fly in US air space immediately after 9/11.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
14. And it pisses me off to think that no "reporter" sought to ask Bush about this.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:01 PM
Feb 2015
After 9/11, planes were allowed to fly around the US gathering up family members who were then flown back to Saudi Arabia. The only planes allowed to fly in US air space immediately after 9/11.

No one in our media asked Bush about this. Why?

And no one asked Bush why he sat and did nothing when told by Card the US was under attack.--


The "official explanation" is that he wanted to wait for more information, yet he says nothing to Card! There is no communication! Yet, we're to believe he wanted to wait for more information? How do we know this when he said and did nothing?

And what the hell is this all about?--


He said he saw the first plane hit the tower on the TV? Why hasn't one of our "crack reporters" asked him about this? What the f*ck did he mean? The "official explanation" states he was "confused."

Every one of these sociopaths and murderers needs to be rounded up and put on GitMo for the rest of their miserable lives! Oh, and seize their assets as just compensation for the families of those victims on 9/11.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
13. Of course they do.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:40 AM
Feb 2015

And so does the GOP they work for. It's hard work keeping a massive coup hidden from the public it has now enslaved. And it isn't cheap either.

And I believe the sheik has been Murdoch's financier (along with Al Qaeda) for much longer than 7 years.

Unlike my belief, Moussaui's assertions should be easy to prove or disprove. Do it, Justice!

Or not…(probably not)

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
18. Indirectly, at least.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:58 PM
Feb 2015

American hard-right foreign policy spends in ways that create and promote terror, and Fox pimps that hourly.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
20. For a network like FOX News
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 02:26 PM
Feb 2015

to still be in business after their scare tactics over the years, America sure does have a weird idea of what a news network is or what it is supposed to do. Other developed countries don't seem to have this problem with their news media.

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