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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUnited Nations Security Council unanimously adopts Russian resolution on Ukraine.
The Russian Federation is that power some on these boards and elsewhere have chosen to label an "Aggressor Nation," a nation which they claim has launched an "Invasion" of Ukraine. The same Russian Federation, however, has just pushed through the UNSC a resolution which calls for the implementation of a closely monitored end to all fighting in eastern Ukraine, pulling back of long range weapons and expulsion from Ukraine of all mercenaries and foreign combatants? That doesn't even sound like the same country. Such a resolution is hardly what one would expect from an expansionist power bent on conquest of Ukraine, now is it?
Russian Federation United Nations Envoy, Vitaly Churkin (RT)
Russian draft resolution on Ukraine passed by UN Security Council
The United Nations Security Council has voted unanimously to approve a Russia-drafted resolution to support the Minsk agreements, reached by the leaders of France, Germany, Russia and Ukraine last week. The resolution was submitted to the UNSC by Russia on February 13, a day after the Minsk deal was agreed on. It is aimed at endorsing and executing the Minsk agreements. The document also expresses concern over the continuing violence in eastern Ukraine, and stresses the importance of resolving the conflict peacefully.
After the unprecedented diplomatic efforts last week, Ukraine has a chance to turn a dramatic page in its history, said Russias UN envoy Vitaly Churkin, who expressed gratitude towards the other parties for endorsing the document. Moscow would aid in full the realization of the agreement, he added.
The resolution calls for a total ceasefire and a political solution that respects the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine. Despite the unanimous vote on the resolution, a number of UN Security Council delegations keep selectively interpreting the new Minsk agreement, Churkin said. We are disappointed with the discussion, because some of our colleagues have gone on the usual rhetoric route, often the rhetoric was not harmless. Especially harmful in the present circumstances is an attempt to rewrite the Minsk agreement, the Russian diplomat told the council.
Churkin urged the warring parties in Ukraine to create proper security conditions for the OSCE monitoring mission in the conflict zone and Debaltsevo, in particular. It is because of the continued shelling of cities, that the Minsk Agreement of September did not last as originally planned. Indeed, the OSCE observers should work including in the area of Debaltsevo, but in order to do so, they must be provided with security. We all have to remember that these are unarmed people, although in armored vehicles, but still without certain security conditions, it is difficult to expect that they will be able to effectively control something there, said Churkin.
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Read more, and view video of the UNSC vote, at: http://rt.com/news/233243-un-council-resolution-ukraine/
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)How is this supposed to be different?
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)So how can they stop? Since some people seem convinced, without a shred of actual proof, that the Russian Army is in Ukraine, how could they ever be convinced those nonexistent Russians have been withdrawn?
Russia has proven it wants OSCE observers active on the front lines in Ukraine. Lets give them what they want, and then we'll see how many Russians they find there.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)The travesty is you aren't even saying that just to take the piss; you're probably a true 100% believer...
Of course I can't really blame you when all you ever read is RT...All I can do is hope you someday develop your ability to truly think for yourself...
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)I resent your tone and your accusations. If you expect me to continue to recognize your comments with responses, you'll have to clean that up.
Good night, Tires.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,219 posts)There's a mighty big shaving cut from Occam's Razor.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Russia promoting peace is going to short circuit some folk's permanently welded mind wiring.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Get off your ass and search for it, smart guy...
Or are you naive enough to believe a bunch of poorly equipped yokel farmers pushed the Ukraine military back this far all by themselves?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Precisely?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)But you already knew that
Simple - Russia holds all the cards. Of course they all agreed to the Peace Accord Germany brokered
It in no way absolves Russia of any wrong doing. It just prevents US Hawks from escalating matters
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)And let me say thanks in advance.
As to what you think I know: You are thoroughly misinformed.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)But that doesn't matter for you
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Diplomacy over death any day.
Rex
(65,616 posts)This might come as a surprise to people here, but Russia has an enormous amount of power in the world. Reagan worshipers might pretend otherwise, but Russia can still control half the world if they want to.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Or one could call or check with Senator Inhofe's information office.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)What part of "unanimous" is being spun?
Rex
(65,616 posts)Well YOU KNOW...the animous part! It must have been er nonanimous! Sure, why not.
malaise
(269,219 posts)You just have to laugh
Igel
(35,374 posts)Denied, denied, denied. Then praised for the role they'd played all along. "No, no, no, no, no, no ... Yes!"
It's like the Vicar of Dibley--the one guy who'd routinely say, 'No, no, no, no, no ... Yes!" It was funny on the Vicar of Dibley. (Then again, Dawn French and what she's involved in is typically funny. I note that Dawn French isn't a prominent politician in Russia, however much more attractive she is with her naturally petite figure than Putin is.)
Same guys, same uniforms, same equipment this time around. Polite little green men.
With the difference that there are Gruz 200 vans crossing the border. To Russia. And lots of convoys crossing the other way. Some with caterpillar treads.
But still ...
"No, no, no, no, no, no ..."
The scene hasn't finished being shot yet.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)They were there in Soviet days, and they were there under a ninety year treaty with Ukraine after that nation gained its independence in 1991, so what again are you talking about?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,219 posts)The treaty allowed Russia to maintain naval bases in Crimea. It didn't allow for Russia to occupy Crimea in its entirety. Come on, you're not so stupid as to believe yourself when you say otherwise.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Russian infantry, armor and support units, thousands of troops, were stationed as guards for the Black Sea Fleet bases. You can check the exact numbers if you wish, but if I remember correctly it was something like twelve or fifteen thousand men. At the time of the Kiev coup, Russia reinforced its military in Crimea by a few thousand troops, but that was also well within the terms of the treaty with Ukraine concerning Russian rights in Crimea.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,219 posts)Nothing in any treaty gave Russia any right to deploy its military into civilian areas of Crimea, which is what they did less than a week after Yanukovych flew out of Kiev.
11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)will you have an RT thread explaining how it's really the fault of the Ukrainians, or the Nazis, or somebody else other than the lying, murderous sonofabitch who currently controls Russia?
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)American schools just don't do the job anymore. Then again, can we really blame the schools alone?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Considering a major catalyst for this whole debacle was Russia flagrantly violating Budapest. How can they be trusted to live up to this as well?
Initech
(100,108 posts)OverseaVisitor
(296 posts)US not using veto power.
So it is very telling.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)The U.S. vote with the majority was a surprise to me as well.
Perhaps the Pentagon is going to switch to pressing for a ground war against the Islamic State? They aren't having much luck with their Ukrainian proxy army anyway.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Absolutely horrible. I don't know how they'll be able to rebuild without a lot of help.
I hope this resolution works. Thank the heavens they're at least trying for peace.