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another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 07:21 PM Feb 2015

United Nations Security Council unanimously adopts Russian resolution on Ukraine.

The Russian Federation is that power some on these boards and elsewhere have chosen to label an "Aggressor Nation," a nation which they claim has launched an "Invasion" of Ukraine. The same Russian Federation, however, has just pushed through the UNSC a resolution which calls for the implementation of a closely monitored end to all fighting in eastern Ukraine, pulling back of long range weapons and expulsion from Ukraine of all mercenaries and foreign combatants? That doesn't even sound like the same country. Such a resolution is hardly what one would expect from an expansionist power bent on conquest of Ukraine, now is it?



Russian Federation United Nations Envoy, Vitaly Churkin (RT)


Russian draft resolution on Ukraine passed by UN Security Council


The United Nations Security Council has voted unanimously to approve a Russia-drafted resolution to support the Minsk agreements, reached by the leaders of France, Germany, Russia and Ukraine last week. The resolution was submitted to the UNSC by Russia on February 13, a day after the Minsk deal was agreed on. It is aimed at endorsing and executing the Minsk agreements. The document also expresses concern over the continuing violence in eastern Ukraine, and stresses the importance of resolving the conflict peacefully.

“After the unprecedented diplomatic efforts last week, Ukraine has a chance to turn a dramatic page in its history,” said Russia’s UN envoy Vitaly Churkin, who expressed “gratitude” towards the other parties for endorsing the document. Moscow would aid “in full” the realization of the agreement, he added.

The resolution calls for a “total ceasefire” and a “political solution” that respects the “sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine”. Despite the unanimous vote on the resolution, a number of UN Security Council delegations keep selectively interpreting the new Minsk agreement, Churkin said. “We are disappointed with the discussion, because some of our colleagues have gone on the usual rhetoric route, often the rhetoric was not harmless. Especially harmful in the present circumstances is an attempt to rewrite the Minsk agreement,” the Russian diplomat told the council.

Churkin urged the warring parties in Ukraine to create proper security conditions for the OSCE monitoring mission in the conflict zone and Debaltsevo, in particular. “It is because of the continued shelling of cities, that the Minsk Agreement of September did not last as originally planned. Indeed, the OSCE observers should work including in the area of Debaltsevo, but in order to do so, they must be provided with security. We all have to remember that these are unarmed people, although in armored vehicles, but still without certain security conditions, it is difficult to expect that they will be able to effectively control something there,” said Churkin.

(snip)


Read more, and view video of the UNSC vote, at: http://rt.com/news/233243-un-council-resolution-ukraine/
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United Nations Security Council unanimously adopts Russian resolution on Ukraine. (Original Post) another_liberal Feb 2015 OP
The Russians have ignored every ceasefire so far... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #1
Russia isn't fighting in Ukraine . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #3
Russia isn't fighting in Ukraine . . . Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #5
What I do or don't believe in is none of your business . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #23
Yes, because all rag-tag rebels are so well-equipped and well manned on their own. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #32
Russia is not fighting in Ukraine. Serious accusations require serious evidence. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #7
I've posted evidence numerous times Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #8
Ditto. Senator Inhofe, is that you? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #11
Enough with the Armchair Diplomacy already FreakinDJ Feb 2015 #2
Meaning what . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #4
Meaning RT news is the FUX news of the East FreakinDJ Feb 2015 #17
If you merely want to indulge in RT-bashing, do so under your own OP . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #19
No excuse posting from a propganda rag FreakinDJ Feb 2015 #30
Peace talks should be more popular than war talk. Maybe some day. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #6
Wait, I thought the US controlled the UN. Another myth destroyed. Rex Feb 2015 #9
USA voted for the Russian, German and French PEACE proposal, more accurately..that is going to get noticed. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #10
RT again? KamaAina Feb 2015 #12
You could check the UN website if you like....same facts...unanimous resolution. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #13
I'm sure, but then I wouldn't be getting that lovely RT spin. KamaAina Feb 2015 #14
You forgot to remove the sarcasm emoticon. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #15
LOL! Er...uh...hmmm...sputter. Rex Feb 2015 #18
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahaha malaise Feb 2015 #21
There were no Russian forces in Crimea. Igel Feb 2015 #16
There were always Russian troops in Crimea . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #20
I refuse to believe that you and people like Robert Parry are that stupid. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #22
Robert Parry? another_liberal Feb 2015 #24
Um, you are aware they were stationed on the naval bases, right? Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #31
And when Pootie-Poot wipes his ass with his own resolution ... 11 Bravo Feb 2015 #25
Now bathroom humor . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #26
Hey, it's a legitimate question. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #28
So is it World War3 yet? Initech Feb 2015 #27
No not at this stage OverseaVisitor Feb 2015 #29
Good point . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #33
I was just looking at videos of the devastation in eastern Ukraine. polly7 Feb 2015 #34
Kick, for peace! nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #35
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
3. Russia isn't fighting in Ukraine . . .
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 07:32 PM
Feb 2015

So how can they stop? Since some people seem convinced, without a shred of actual proof, that the Russian Army is in Ukraine, how could they ever be convinced those nonexistent Russians have been withdrawn?

Russia has proven it wants OSCE observers active on the front lines in Ukraine. Lets give them what they want, and then we'll see how many Russians they find there.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. Russia isn't fighting in Ukraine . . .
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 07:36 PM
Feb 2015

The travesty is you aren't even saying that just to take the piss; you're probably a true 100% believer...

Of course I can't really blame you when all you ever read is RT...All I can do is hope you someday develop your ability to truly think for yourself...

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
23. What I do or don't believe in is none of your business . . .
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 09:45 PM
Feb 2015

I resent your tone and your accusations. If you expect me to continue to recognize your comments with responses, you'll have to clean that up.

Good night, Tires.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,219 posts)
32. Yes, because all rag-tag rebels are so well-equipped and well manned on their own.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:23 AM
Feb 2015

There's a mighty big shaving cut from Occam's Razor.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. Russia is not fighting in Ukraine. Serious accusations require serious evidence.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 07:39 PM
Feb 2015

Russia promoting peace is going to short circuit some folk's permanently welded mind wiring.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. I've posted evidence numerous times
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 07:42 PM
Feb 2015

Get off your ass and search for it, smart guy...

Or are you naive enough to believe a bunch of poorly equipped yokel farmers pushed the Ukraine military back this far all by themselves?

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
17. Meaning RT news is the FUX news of the East
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 08:39 PM
Feb 2015

But you already knew that

Simple - Russia holds all the cards. Of course they all agreed to the Peace Accord Germany brokered

It in no way absolves Russia of any wrong doing. It just prevents US Hawks from escalating matters

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
19. If you merely want to indulge in RT-bashing, do so under your own OP . . .
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 09:05 PM
Feb 2015

And let me say thanks in advance.


As to what you think I know: You are thoroughly misinformed.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Wait, I thought the US controlled the UN. Another myth destroyed.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 07:42 PM
Feb 2015

This might come as a surprise to people here, but Russia has an enormous amount of power in the world. Reagan worshipers might pretend otherwise, but Russia can still control half the world if they want to.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. You could check the UN website if you like....same facts...unanimous resolution.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 07:47 PM
Feb 2015

Or one could call or check with Senator Inhofe's information office.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. LOL! Er...uh...hmmm...sputter.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 08:43 PM
Feb 2015

Well YOU KNOW...the animous part! It must have been er nonanimous! Sure, why not.

Igel

(35,374 posts)
16. There were no Russian forces in Crimea.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 08:24 PM
Feb 2015

Denied, denied, denied. Then praised for the role they'd played all along. "No, no, no, no, no, no ... Yes!"

It's like the Vicar of Dibley--the one guy who'd routinely say, 'No, no, no, no, no ... Yes!" It was funny on the Vicar of Dibley. (Then again, Dawn French and what she's involved in is typically funny. I note that Dawn French isn't a prominent politician in Russia, however much more attractive she is with her naturally petite figure than Putin is.)

Same guys, same uniforms, same equipment this time around. Polite little green men.

With the difference that there are Gruz 200 vans crossing the border. To Russia. And lots of convoys crossing the other way. Some with caterpillar treads.

But still ...

"No, no, no, no, no, no ..."

The scene hasn't finished being shot yet.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
20. There were always Russian troops in Crimea . . .
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 09:08 PM
Feb 2015

They were there in Soviet days, and they were there under a ninety year treaty with Ukraine after that nation gained its independence in 1991, so what again are you talking about?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,219 posts)
22. I refuse to believe that you and people like Robert Parry are that stupid.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 09:40 PM
Feb 2015

The treaty allowed Russia to maintain naval bases in Crimea. It didn't allow for Russia to occupy Crimea in its entirety. Come on, you're not so stupid as to believe yourself when you say otherwise.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
24. Robert Parry?
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 09:52 PM
Feb 2015

Russian infantry, armor and support units, thousands of troops, were stationed as guards for the Black Sea Fleet bases. You can check the exact numbers if you wish, but if I remember correctly it was something like twelve or fifteen thousand men. At the time of the Kiev coup, Russia reinforced its military in Crimea by a few thousand troops, but that was also well within the terms of the treaty with Ukraine concerning Russian rights in Crimea.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,219 posts)
31. Um, you are aware they were stationed on the naval bases, right?
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 11:13 PM
Feb 2015

Nothing in any treaty gave Russia any right to deploy its military into civilian areas of Crimea, which is what they did less than a week after Yanukovych flew out of Kiev.

11 Bravo

(23,928 posts)
25. And when Pootie-Poot wipes his ass with his own resolution ...
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 09:53 PM
Feb 2015

will you have an RT thread explaining how it's really the fault of the Ukrainians, or the Nazis, or somebody else other than the lying, murderous sonofabitch who currently controls Russia?

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
26. Now bathroom humor . . .
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 09:58 PM
Feb 2015

American schools just don't do the job anymore. Then again, can we really blame the schools alone?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
28. Hey, it's a legitimate question.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 10:17 PM
Feb 2015

Considering a major catalyst for this whole debacle was Russia flagrantly violating Budapest. How can they be trusted to live up to this as well?

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
33. Good point . . .
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:49 AM
Feb 2015

The U.S. vote with the majority was a surprise to me as well.

Perhaps the Pentagon is going to switch to pressing for a ground war against the Islamic State? They aren't having much luck with their Ukrainian proxy army anyway.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
34. I was just looking at videos of the devastation in eastern Ukraine.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:52 AM
Feb 2015

Absolutely horrible. I don't know how they'll be able to rebuild without a lot of help.

I hope this resolution works. Thank the heavens they're at least trying for peace.

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