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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:27 PM Feb 2015

A colleague who was with O'Reilly in Buenos Aries speaks out



From Eric Jon Engberg's Facebook Post:

Did Fox News bloviater Bill O'Reilly commit Brian Williams type fabrications when he claimed he had been in a "combat situation" while working as a reporter for CBS News during the Falklands War in 1982? Did he pad his resume' as he was laying claim to personal knowledge about what happens in war? The issue has arisen because the "Mother Jones" magazine Washington bureau chief David Corn has written a story, largely based on recollections of CBS News senior staffers, comparing O'Reilly's statements about his war experience to the fabrications which sent NBC anchor Williams into a six-month suspension.

I can provide some eyewitness information on this matter because I was one of the correspondents in Buenos Aires with O'Reilly and the rest of the rather large staff of CBS News people who were there "covering" the war. To begin with "covering" is an overstatement of what we were doing. Corn is correct in pointing out that the Falkland Islands, where the combat between Great Britain and Argentina took place, was a thousand miles away from Buenos Aires. We were in Buenos Aires because that's the only place the Argentine military junta would let journalists go. Our knowledge of the war was restricted to what we could glean from comically deceitful daily briefings given by the Argentine military and watching government-controlled television to try to pick up a useful clue from propaganda broadcasts. We -- meaning the American networks -- were all in the same, modern hotel and we never saw any troops, casualties or weapons. It was not a war zone or even close. It was an "expense account zone."

O'Reilly, freshly hired by CBS, arrived in Buenos Aires a few days before the British expeditionary force defeated the Argentine occupiers. He was, as he is today, full of brio and confidence. I remember him asking me how I liked my assignment. When I said I was tired of living in a hotel and wanted to go home he said, "Call your agent." Back in those days calling your agent to complain about the company's decision-making would have been a career-ender, but he didn't seem to understand matters of the CBS internal secret wooglies, which included the rule that you did as you were told. I should have known he was headed for trouble, but I just thought he was a rookie who would learn. Yeah, right.

Within a couple of days of his arrival the British Army and Marines had completed their land assault on the Falklands capital and forced the Argentines to surrender. The Argentine public, who had been living under a murderous, corrupt military government for years, were driven into the streets of their capital by rage over the loss of a war they had been repeatedly told their army was winning. As night fell after the surrender statement, several thousand people gathered in the streets around the presidential palace to protest. All the members of the CBS reporting staff and all the two-person camera crews we had in Buenos Aires were sent in to the street. I believe there were four or five crews. The reporters, as I remember, were O'Reilly, Chuck Gomez, Charles Krause, Bob Schieffer and myself. Somewhere it has been reported that O'Reilly has claimed he was the only CBS News reporter who had the courage to go into the street because the rest of us were hiding in our hotel. If he said such thing it is an absolute lie. Everyone was working in the street that night, the crews exhibiting their usual courage. O'Reilly was the one person who behaved unprofessionally and without regard for the safety of the camera crew he was leading.

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More at his Facebook post:

https://www.facebook.com/eric.j.engberg/posts/10204873374051471
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A colleague who was with O'Reilly in Buenos Aries speaks out (Original Post) MohRokTah Feb 2015 OP
that's going to sting glasshouses Feb 2015 #1
He will just call it a distortion of the liberal media still_one Feb 2015 #5
Hope so, and then he can be reminded that it was the same "liberal media" that HE was working for... George II Feb 2015 #38
I have my doubts. Seems the military is complicit in the anti-left smear campaign... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2015 #11
Here is an ABC News Broadcast cynzke Feb 2015 #49
Good. About time someone came forward nt riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #2
"If he said such a thing it is an absolute lie." hatrack Feb 2015 #3
Be sure to read the comments below the post. More people conforming Billo's lies. Beaverhausen Feb 2015 #4
Yep, I sure did. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #7
"Instead, he let his ego write a check his mouth couldn't cash." Boy do I have uses for this little libdem4life Feb 2015 #10
Bill-o strikes me as the quintessential alligator mouth with a hummingbird ass. 11 Bravo Feb 2015 #17
Hey, don't talk about hummingbirds that way!! MH1 Feb 2015 #22
Yep, I read them, too Roy Rolling Feb 2015 #30
I think every US journalist who was in Buenos Aries at the time is probably pissed off at O'Reilly. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #32
That is the thing with the art of telling the lie... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #6
Excellent! PearliePoo2 Feb 2015 #8
R#14 for, the whole thing plus comments - absolutely delish!1 UTUSN Feb 2015 #9
The chicken hawk ass cannon fires brain turds at his detractors, crying "loofahs rule". Augiedog Feb 2015 #12
Someone with some talent should be able to plug Bill O'Reilly in this pic albino65 Feb 2015 #13
Amazing that these people had to stand still for several minutes louis-t Feb 2015 #25
He is in the picture, hiding in the tent!!!! George II Feb 2015 #36
good one n/t albino65 Feb 2015 #50
That tall guy with the tall hat...wouldn't allow Billo to be in any picture with him. dead or alive Stuart G Feb 2015 #40
K&R! TeamPooka Feb 2015 #14
K&R demigoddess Feb 2015 #15
This is awesome! ybbor Feb 2015 #16
This comment by Sam Roberts was awesome! MohRokTah Feb 2015 #18
Yes, MyOwnPeace Feb 2015 #26
Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!nt Stuart G Feb 2015 #43
That was my favorite comment as well ybbor Feb 2015 #46
Expense account zone. Have to remember that one. kairos12 Feb 2015 #19
Please jaxind Feb 2015 #20
I'm gonna click on that link and share it barbtries Feb 2015 #21
k and r...this speaks stronger and clearer than anything the A**hol# could ever say...nt Stuart G Feb 2015 #23
That about settles that...O'Reilly caught completely in a fraud. CanonRay Feb 2015 #24
Color me surprised... NOT!!!!!!! calimary Feb 2015 #44
kick 1000 samsingh Feb 2015 #27
Oh my! This just too delicious for words! chillfactor Feb 2015 #28
K & R. Best Facebook post ever. giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #29
Read the entire post -- the comments are incredilbly compelling. n/t eggplant Feb 2015 #31
excellent trumad Feb 2015 #33
I thought he has been caught in a major dust up before..... usaf-vet Feb 2015 #34
I wonder if Bob Schieffer will say anything tomorrow on "Face the Nation"? George II Feb 2015 #35
Drip, drip, drip. The sound of TRUST going down the drain for Fox's top show. When viewer trust is gone.... Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #37
That's been my question malaise Feb 2015 #39
I hope this hurts Billo, as much as he has hurt others...nt Stuart G Feb 2015 #41
He'll never be hurt as badly as he hurt Dr. George Tiller, Tiller's family and his friends. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #42
Thank you for this account from Eric J Engberg, MRT! Cha Feb 2015 #45
"O'Reilly should identify the cameraman by name so he can be questioned about the alleged injury." Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #47
"Sadly, truth matters not at Faux, so BillO will continue his Teflon race to the bottom." deutsey Feb 2015 #48
Many reporters commenting on the piece also tag O'Reilley as a fraud and a belligerent and tblue37 Feb 2015 #51

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. Hope so, and then he can be reminded that it was the same "liberal media" that HE was working for...
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 07:39 PM
Feb 2015

....and probably got fired from!

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
11. I have my doubts. Seems the military is complicit in the anti-left smear campaign...
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:57 PM
Feb 2015

whereas they never bring into question the credentials or credibility of the right-wingers.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
49. Here is an ABC News Broadcast
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 12:01 PM
Feb 2015

the following morning, June 16th. 1982. Argentina surrendered on the 14th., a brief riot broke out on the 15th. and less than 24 hrs. the riot was over. Notice no mention of a massive violent protest with massive fatalities....soldiers gunning down citizens in the street. If any of that happened it would have been mentioned in this report.

http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/june-16-1982-aftermath-falkland-war-10148016

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
7. Yep, I sure did.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:42 PM
Feb 2015

O'Reilly could have quietly admitted he "misspoke" and left it at that. It would have been forgotten because he's at Faux.

Instead, he let his ego write a check his mouth couldn't cash.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. "Instead, he let his ego write a check his mouth couldn't cash." Boy do I have uses for this little
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:53 PM
Feb 2015

gem of a saying! LOL

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
30. Yep, I read them, too
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 06:35 PM
Feb 2015

If you wanna find out the truth about someone, ask the crew that works with him/her. In the long run, idiots cannot remain hidden for the entire length of time production projects take.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
32. I think every US journalist who was in Buenos Aries at the time is probably pissed off at O'Reilly.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 06:40 PM
Feb 2015

He did paint them all as cowards, after all.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
6. That is the thing with the art of telling the lie...
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:42 PM
Feb 2015

The minute you bring your (probably) equally egotistical colleagues into the story to show them as somehow less than you, your story is sunk.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
8. Excellent!
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:45 PM
Feb 2015

I went to the Facebook page link and read the entire post!
Lots of people weighing in with more facts and NONE of it favorably for O'Reilly "the bloviating liar".
Simply delicious!

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
9. R#14 for, the whole thing plus comments - absolutely delish!1
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:52 PM
Feb 2015

Despite those (in the link and outside it) saying O'LOOFAH's transgressions are not so bad as WILLIAMS', this piece is going to put him in the position of lambasting his professional former co-employees as opposed to his usual targets, the supposedly ideological "smear merchants".
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louis-t

(23,292 posts)
25. Amazing that these people had to stand still for several minutes
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 06:07 PM
Feb 2015

for the film to catch the image.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
40. That tall guy with the tall hat...wouldn't allow Billo to be in any picture with him. dead or alive
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 08:10 PM
Feb 2015

His spirit would force Billo into a picture with ....."I am not a crook" Nixon..

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
18. This comment by Sam Roberts was awesome!
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 05:22 PM
Feb 2015
Thank you Eric. But there's more. When O'Reilly got back to NY, Ed Joyce, the president of CBS News and O'Reilly's rabbi, came into my office. I was then the National editor. Joyce told me that O'Reilly was to report directly to me and that I was to "turn him into a real CBS News Correspondent." Not two minutes later, Dan Rather walked into my office and shut the door. He said "under no circumstances is O'Reilly to be assigned any story for the Evening News." I sat O'Reilly down and said something to the effect that he was like the All-American football player who got drafted by the Dallass Cowboys and brought all his press clippings to training camp. "Nobody gives a shit," I said. "You've got to do it here." O'Reilly said he couldn't work with producers in the field so I worked out a deal with the Weekend News allowing him to work alone. That lasted for about two stories. A few weeks later, his agent, Richard Leibner called. "How's O'Reilly doing?" he asked. I hemmed and hawed a little and Richard then said he had a job offer in Boston for O'Reilly and wondered oif he should take it. "He'll never make it here," I said. Take that job in Boston before it goes away." And that was the end of O'Reilly's career at CBS News.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
26. Yes,
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 06:13 PM
Feb 2015

In the responses that followed on the Facebook page you will find some scathing comments from professionals that were in the field - and NOT the battlefield! These comments come from those that were his peers - and none of the comments are very kind.
Billo will have a hard time crying about them!
But I also agree - Faux won't do a damned thing - he's their kind of guy

Sure hope Jon Stewart picks up on this on Monday!!!!

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
46. That was my favorite comment as well
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 11:39 PM
Feb 2015

Especially the "he'll never make it here."

Of course, Billo is laughing all the way to the bank.

I went to his wiki page (I know, glutton for punishment) and there is a bit about him being a minor league baseball player on it. I think KO did a bit on this claim, debunking it as well. He is such a effing egomaniac, I so wish he'd go down, but I'm not holding my breath.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
20. Please
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 05:24 PM
Feb 2015

Please tell me that this all will lead to a huge uproar the way it did for Brian Williams...please, please!! He should be pressured by the media and the people to step down just as BW has.

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
21. I'm gonna click on that link and share it
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 05:31 PM
Feb 2015

what if this shit turned out to be the end of o'reilly's reign as one of the most popular hate-filled assholes ever?

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
28. Oh my! This just too delicious for words!
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 06:27 PM
Feb 2015

I guess the other reporters did not appreciate being called cowards! Your boat had sunk O'Reilly! LOVE IT!

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
34. I thought he has been caught in a major dust up before.....
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 07:02 PM
Feb 2015

..... he got caught lying about some award he won for his reporting. Here is one account. Peabody vs. Polk

http://crooksandliars.com/2008/06/27/who-needs-a-lousy-peabody-anyway-bill-oreilly-doesnt-really

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
37. Drip, drip, drip. The sound of TRUST going down the drain for Fox's top show. When viewer trust is gone....
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 07:27 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Sat Feb 21, 2015, 08:07 PM - Edit history (2)

Every single Fox "host" has the same liar problem...why is it only fake war stories are verboten....everything else is OK?

The news producers of the lies that then coverup the lies.....for years.....get a pass?

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
42. He'll never be hurt as badly as he hurt Dr. George Tiller, Tiller's family and his friends. eom
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 08:16 PM
Feb 2015
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
47. "O'Reilly should identify the cameraman by name so he can be questioned about the alleged injury."
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:46 AM
Feb 2015

I picture O'Reilly and all of FOX "News" trying to find a CBS cameraman who is now dead so they can't be questioned and then claim it's disrespectful of their memory to keep talking about it.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
48. "Sadly, truth matters not at Faux, so BillO will continue his Teflon race to the bottom."
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:58 AM
Feb 2015

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Vicki Mabrey's comment.

But I'm hoping this turns into a spark that brings BillO the Hindenburg down.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
51. Many reporters commenting on the piece also tag O'Reilley as a fraud and a belligerent and
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 12:35 PM
Feb 2015

lazy egotist.

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