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From Eric Jon Engberg's Facebook Post:
I can provide some eyewitness information on this matter because I was one of the correspondents in Buenos Aires with O'Reilly and the rest of the rather large staff of CBS News people who were there "covering" the war. To begin with "covering" is an overstatement of what we were doing. Corn is correct in pointing out that the Falkland Islands, where the combat between Great Britain and Argentina took place, was a thousand miles away from Buenos Aires. We were in Buenos Aires because that's the only place the Argentine military junta would let journalists go. Our knowledge of the war was restricted to what we could glean from comically deceitful daily briefings given by the Argentine military and watching government-controlled television to try to pick up a useful clue from propaganda broadcasts. We -- meaning the American networks -- were all in the same, modern hotel and we never saw any troops, casualties or weapons. It was not a war zone or even close. It was an "expense account zone."
O'Reilly, freshly hired by CBS, arrived in Buenos Aires a few days before the British expeditionary force defeated the Argentine occupiers. He was, as he is today, full of brio and confidence. I remember him asking me how I liked my assignment. When I said I was tired of living in a hotel and wanted to go home he said, "Call your agent." Back in those days calling your agent to complain about the company's decision-making would have been a career-ender, but he didn't seem to understand matters of the CBS internal secret wooglies, which included the rule that you did as you were told. I should have known he was headed for trouble, but I just thought he was a rookie who would learn. Yeah, right.
Within a couple of days of his arrival the British Army and Marines had completed their land assault on the Falklands capital and forced the Argentines to surrender. The Argentine public, who had been living under a murderous, corrupt military government for years, were driven into the streets of their capital by rage over the loss of a war they had been repeatedly told their army was winning. As night fell after the surrender statement, several thousand people gathered in the streets around the presidential palace to protest. All the members of the CBS reporting staff and all the two-person camera crews we had in Buenos Aires were sent in to the street. I believe there were four or five crews. The reporters, as I remember, were O'Reilly, Chuck Gomez, Charles Krause, Bob Schieffer and myself. Somewhere it has been reported that O'Reilly has claimed he was the only CBS News reporter who had the courage to go into the street because the rest of us were hiding in our hotel. If he said such thing it is an absolute lie. Everyone was working in the street that night, the crews exhibiting their usual courage. O'Reilly was the one person who behaved unprofessionally and without regard for the safety of the camera crew he was leading.
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More at his Facebook post:
https://www.facebook.com/eric.j.engberg/posts/10204873374051471
glasshouses
(484 posts)still_one
(92,187 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....and probably got fired from!
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)whereas they never bring into question the credentials or credibility of the right-wingers.
cynzke
(1,254 posts)the following morning, June 16th. 1982. Argentina surrendered on the 14th., a brief riot broke out on the 15th. and less than 24 hrs. the riot was over. Notice no mention of a massive violent protest with massive fatalities....soldiers gunning down citizens in the street. If any of that happened it would have been mentioned in this report.
http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/june-16-1982-aftermath-falkland-war-10148016
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)hatrack
(59,584 posts)Well, not much gray area there.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)O'Reilly could have quietly admitted he "misspoke" and left it at that. It would have been forgotten because he's at Faux.
Instead, he let his ego write a check his mouth couldn't cash.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)gem of a saying! LOL
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)MH1
(17,600 posts)Maybe an ant's ass? A rodent's ass?
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)If you wanna find out the truth about someone, ask the crew that works with him/her. In the long run, idiots cannot remain hidden for the entire length of time production projects take.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)He did paint them all as cowards, after all.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)The minute you bring your (probably) equally egotistical colleagues into the story to show them as somehow less than you, your story is sunk.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I went to the Facebook page link and read the entire post!
Lots of people weighing in with more facts and NONE of it favorably for O'Reilly "the bloviating liar".
Simply delicious!
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)Despite those (in the link and outside it) saying O'LOOFAH's transgressions are not so bad as WILLIAMS', this piece is going to put him in the position of lambasting his professional former co-employees as opposed to his usual targets, the supposedly ideological "smear merchants".
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Augiedog
(2,546 posts)albino65
(484 posts)louis-t
(23,292 posts)for the film to catch the image.
George II
(67,782 posts)albino65
(484 posts)Stuart G
(38,421 posts)His spirit would force Billo into a picture with ....."I am not a crook" Nixon..
TeamPooka
(24,223 posts)demigoddess
(6,640 posts)Shows that he sure wasn't the professional that he pretends to be.
ybbor
(1,554 posts)You must read the whole piece and the comments!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)In the responses that followed on the Facebook page you will find some scathing comments from professionals that were in the field - and NOT the battlefield! These comments come from those that were his peers - and none of the comments are very kind.
Billo will have a hard time crying about them!
But I also agree - Faux won't do a damned thing - he's their kind of guy
Sure hope Jon Stewart picks up on this on Monday!!!!
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)ybbor
(1,554 posts)Especially the "he'll never make it here."
Of course, Billo is laughing all the way to the bank.
I went to his wiki page (I know, glutton for punishment) and there is a bit about him being a minor league baseball player on it. I think KO did a bit on this claim, debunking it as well. He is such a effing egomaniac, I so wish he'd go down, but I'm not holding my breath.
kairos12
(12,858 posts)jaxind
(1,074 posts)Please tell me that this all will lead to a huge uproar the way it did for Brian Williams...please, please!! He should be pressured by the media and the people to step down just as BW has.
barbtries
(28,789 posts)what if this shit turned out to be the end of o'reilly's reign as one of the most popular hate-filled assholes ever?
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)samsingh
(17,595 posts)chillfactor
(7,575 posts)I guess the other reporters did not appreciate being called cowards! Your boat had sunk O'Reilly! LOVE IT!
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)The replies being firsthand accounts, fantastic.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)Loved the comments after from the real pros.
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)..... he got caught lying about some award he won for his reporting. Here is one account. Peabody vs. Polk
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/06/27/who-needs-a-lousy-peabody-anyway-bill-oreilly-doesnt-really
George II
(67,782 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 21, 2015, 08:07 PM - Edit history (2)
Every single Fox "host" has the same liar problem...why is it only fake war stories are verboten....everything else is OK?
The news producers of the lies that then coverup the lies.....for years.....get a pass?
malaise
(268,976 posts)The producers and owners have given us way more serious lies
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I picture O'Reilly and all of FOX "News" trying to find a CBS cameraman who is now dead so they can't be questioned and then claim it's disrespectful of their memory to keep talking about it.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Unfortunately, I have to agree with Vicki Mabrey's comment.
But I'm hoping this turns into a spark that brings BillO the Hindenburg down.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)lazy egotist.