Ohio Schools Just Started Passing Out These Disturbing Police State ‘Guides’ For Students

[KamaAina]

http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/02/ohio-schools-just-started-passing-out-these-disturbing-police-state-guides-for-students/

“If you are stopped on the street, answer all questions pertaining to your identity…” that’s what Ohio schools are now telling students. Rather than informing them of their rights, schools are doubling down on police assumptions of power, and telling kids to shut their mouths and comply with more or less whatever police tell them… whether it’s legally required of them or not.

Last week, each and every middle and high school student in Akron, Ohio, received glossy, two-sided card that purported to be the result of collaboration between an anti-violence youth group and the city’s police department. But to read the card, it sounds more like it was written by police alone. The message is clear: “do whatever we tell you and we will not kill you.”...

Some of the statements on the card are also of dubious credibility. “If the officer believes a crime has been committed, your car can be searched without a court-issued warrant.”

That’s not exactly correct. If the officer has “probable cause” to believe a crime has been committed, that is another story. But simply “believing” that a crime has been committed does not give a police officer the right to search your car without consent to a search or a warrant. The card never tells students that they can say “I refuse to consent to a search” nor that they have the right to ask “Am I being detained?” and “Am I free to go?”

Got police state?

[guillaumeb]

1. is it still "innocent until proven guilty" or was that changed?

good to know that we are all presumed guilty of something.

[niyad]

2. we must be obedient little slaves.

[In_The_Wind]

3. no matter what our age is

[CrispyQ]

4. I hope some parents' group contests this.

[HappyMe]

10. Parents could turn this right back

around on the cops by printing up a card with how the cops should behave toward the people they should be protecting.

[csziggy]

21. The ACLU has a page detailing your rights when stopped by law enforcement

https://www.aclu.org/national-security/know-your-rights-when-encountering-law-enforcement

On that page are links to PDFs, available in various languages, that covers the subject thoroughly.

There is another page, "Know Your Rights: What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI" - https://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform-immigrants-rights-racial-justice/know-your-rights-what-do-if-you with a shorter PDF that can be printed on a single page and folded to carry in a pocket or wallet

PDF: https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/bustcard_eng_20100630.pdf
In Spanish: https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/bustcard_spa_20100630.pdf

[HappyMe]

5. Sounds like the cops now

assume you are guilty until proven innocent.

Do what we say, and maybe we won't shoot or beat you.

[hollysmom]

6. On the other hand -

it is important the kids live - this is more a reality than a rights instruction.

[HappyMe]

7. I don't think that following

their instructions guarantees that the kid will live.

[progressoid]

15. Especially if they aren't white.

[HappyMe]

16. Sadly, that's very true.

[TBF]

13. Yeah I believe that's what Patrick Henry said

"It's more important that I live"

[brendan120678]

8. There was an interesting news story today in my local paper...

Sort of along the same lines:

Waterbury chief fields questions on police procedures

WATERBURY -- Police don't need a warrant when they want to search your car during a traffic stop. If they suspect you have a gun, they can pat you down. And when an officer tells you to do something, the best response is to comply.

Those were some of the answers police had for residents during a community forum held Friday at the Jonathan Reed School on Griggs Street, at the edge of one of the city's high-crime areas. 

(...)

Police Chief Vernon Riddick Jr., the department's first African-American leader, headed the conversation along with Warren Leach, a grassroots activist who helped organize the event.

(...)

The public can ease their interactions with police officers by simply complying officers' commands, Riddick said.

http://rep-am.com/articles/2015/02/24/news/local/863969.txt

[grntuscarora]

9. When my kids were teens

I downloaded and printed for them the ACLU pamphlet:
https://www.aclu.org/national-security/know-your-rights-when-encountering-law-enforcement

The ACLU I trust for information. The police, not so much anymore.

[Pacifist Patriot]

12. +1

[frogmarch]

11. yeah? Well, here's

what cooperating with cops could get you:

&feature=youtu.be

[salin]

14. How would this have saved Tamir Rice?

2 seconds. Tragically if this is all the police can come up with, sans training and changing policy, more loss of life is likely to continue.

[KamaAina]

17. Tamir Rice, no?

[salin]

19. hasty posting. Yes and thanks.

[pnwmom]

18. They should call it: "How Not to be Killed by a Law-breaking Cop"

[Savannahmann]

20. Let me summarize it.

Step one. Obey.

Step two. Obey.

Step three. Obey.

Step four. If all else fails, obey.

[niyad]

22. and NEVER, EVER ask questions, or even think them!