FINALLY! DoD “Evidence” that Snowden has Damaged US National Security

[99th_Monkey]

DoD Releases “Evidence” of Snowden’s Damages to National Security… and it’s COMPLETELY Redacted
By Carey Wedler * March 1, 2015 * The AntiMedia

Per a Freedom of Information Act Request lawsuit filed by Vice News, the Department of Defense has released a report on the damaging effects of Edward Snowden’s 2013 NSA leaks. The only problem? It’s redacted. Entirely. Not a crumb of evidence was present in the “evidence” the government released.

The “assessment” is made up of multiple reports collectively over 100 pages long and was released by the Defense Intelligence Agency, a wing of the Department of Defense. It was made by two dozen DIA analysts and is fully blocked out, save for several headings. For example:
* “Assessment”
* “Talking Points”
* “Compromised Information”
* “Background”
* “Recommendations”

The redacted reports were constructed from September 2013 to April 2014. According to a declaration signed by the DIA’s FOIA office chair, Aleysia Williams, it was used by DOD “leadership” to “mitigate the harm caused to national security” by Snowden.

David Leatherwood, the DIA’s director of operations, said that to do this, secrecy must be employed (as usual). He alleged:

“To accomplish this goal, the reporting of the task force focuses entirely on identifying the magnitude of the harm. Much of that reporting, for very legitimate reasons, remains classified. “

Further, at a conference on Monday, NSA chief Mike Rogers claimed of the Snowden leaks:

“Anyone who thinks this has not had an impact… doesn’t know what they are talking about.”

Since Edward Snowden exposed the expansive spying practices of the federal government, authorities like Rogers have claimed that the former CIA and NSA analyst compromised national security. However, they are yet to provide a single instance of their claims. They have not even been able to prove that the NSA’s bulk data collection has an effect on terrorism whatsoever.

More here: http://theantimedia.org/dod-releases-evidence-of-snowdens-damages-to-national-security/
Another link: http://theweek.com/speedreads/541288/government-releases-completely-censored-pages-proof-snowden-damaged-national-security

[MrMickeysMom]

1. Predictable!

That statement by NSA Chief Rogers must have been talking about job security.

Kennedy was right in wanting to bust the CIA into a thousand pieces… Nothing good has come from rogue elements with black op budgets.

Seen Citizen Four yet? There's something that should concern us regarding everything we do electronically, including this conversation.

[99th_Monkey]

3. No kidding, re: this conversation

Yes, I saw Citizen4 on big screen a couple of daze ago. My gf was indulging me,
and thought it wasn't going to be worth watching, but she totally changed
her mind by the end of it, and thanked me for taking her.

How could this get any more interestinger?

[merrily]

5. Truman supposedly regretted the CIA.

I am not a huge fan of political hindsight.

[lovemydog]

7. Haha, the only 'security' Rogers meant was job security.

You're exactly right. Of course the NSA and CIA will oppose release of information that embarrasses them. That's why we need courts and legislators who don't kowtow to their every whim.

I haven't seen Citizen Four yet, but look forward to seeing it. Since it won all those awards, I've read more about the case. We must reign in massive warrantless spying and keep it from growing if we wish to continue valuing privacy and free speech of those with no probable cause to be suspected of criminal behavior.

[daredtowork]

32. lol! XD nt

[BeanMusical]

12. Seen Citizen Four yet?

For anyone interested, it's being streamed here:

http://www.all-movies-stream.com/film/500/citizenfour-stream.html

[MrMickeysMom]

29. Kicked for viewing!

[lovemydog]

2. Drop all charges against Mr. Snowden.

Given the vital public importance in releasing information that the US and British governments were secretly spying on innocent citizens.

Given the release of this information caused no imminent or demonstrable harm to the security of either nation.

Given the value the First Amendment and Fourth Amendment to our Constitution.

Given that those Amendments protect people we may not like, and information we may not find agreeable.

Given the systematic abuses that governments have traditionally asserted in the name of national security.

Given that the only way to reveal those abuses to the public is by leaking them.

It is time both governments drop all charges against Mr. Snowden.

[99th_Monkey]

4. +100 nt

[BeanMusical]

13. +1000

[Scuba]

28. + another

[daredtowork]

33. to infinity and beyond! nt

[merrily]

6. They know exactly how Snowden compromised national security.

But, if they told us, they'd have to kill us. rim shot

[99th_Monkey]

8. States Secrets

The quasi-legal fast-lane to fascism.

[merrily]

9. National Security--a term that both opens and closes many doors, esp. when mentioned to a judge.

[rhett o rick]

10. k&r. Thanks for posting. nm

[wildbilln864]

11. k & r & thanks! n/t

[BainsBane]

14. He probably has

but the public has a right to know about illegal surveillance programs.

[JDPriestly]

19. The collateral damage due to defense of the Constitution.

Had the government complied with the Constitution, I might sympathize with their criticisms of Snowden. But the NSA and CIA roamed so far from the path of legality that I really don't care what they think.

If the price of security is losing our ability to express ourselves freely and unobserved, then I'd rather be just secure enough to enjoy my freedom.

[BainsBane]

22. Agreed. nt

[BeanMusical]

15. Kick and R.

[gcomeau]

16. FFS

You mean the *publicly released copies * of the reports on what highly classified national security issues Snowden compromised were redacted?

Gasp!?!?!?

What the fuck did anyone think they were going to be?

[randome]

30. You can't trust the NSA! But you can trust what they release to the public.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[penndragon69]

17. Snowden commited TREASON,

by first STEALING all this national security stuff
and then using it to negotiate with both the Chinese
and the Russians for asylum.

You can bet your bippie that at some point the Chinese drugged his food
at the airport and then, while he was out, cloned his laptop and all
other electronic devices he had with him.

He sold us out and has now DEFECTED to Russia where he is being used
to hack into the U.S. computer networks to keep a roof over his head.

Off with his head !

[JDPriestly]

20. I hope you are joking.

If not, please read Greenwald's book No Place to Hide.

Ignorance is inexcusable and the greatest threat to American security.

The Communists and the terrorists are not the biggest threats to America. People who believe nonsense and do not read the Constitution or understand it are.

[99th_Monkey]

21. +100 nt

[grasswire]

24. yawn nt

[cantbeserious]

26. Snowden Is A Patriot - End Of Story

eom

[gcomeau]

34. Bullshit

A patriot wouldn't have leaked damaging intel on legitimate intelligence activities that had *nothing to do* with any constitutional or civil rights concerns to the Chinese just to cover his own ass.

[cantbeserious]

35. Your Opinion Only - Others Would Disagree

eom

[gcomeau]

36. Others...

...who have never looked up the word "patriot" in the dictionary perhaps.

[cantbeserious]

37. Others That Understand Dictionary Definitions Are Not The End Of The Story

eom

[gcomeau]

38. Ahh...

...so like people who consider a valid definition of "patriot" to be "one who would sell out their own country for their own personal benefit"?

Those others?

[cantbeserious]

39. As Adults, Many Learn About Shades Of Grey

eom

[gcomeau]

40. As adults, many also learn...

...about making arguments that have some bearing on reality.

There is no "shade of grey" in what Snowden did with China.

He. Gave. Them. Stolen. Sensitive. National. Security. Information. For. His. Personal. Benefit.

Do please explain the "shade of grey" involved in doing that that makes him a "Patriot, End of Story!"

[cantbeserious]

42. Right Wing Fantasy And Talking Point

eom

[randome]

43. So is applying 'Unconstitutional!' to everything one objects to.

Last I checked, it was the Supreme Court who decided things like that.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[gcomeau]

44. From GLENN GREENWALD???

He has personally stated explicitly that Snowden did exactly that.

[MattSh]

27. You've obviously paid zero attention to what really happened.

But spewing nonsense seems to be quite popular around DU these days.

[uhnope]

31. Spewing nonsense---you mean like this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=112951

[JDPriestly]

18. K&R.

[whereisjustice]

23. lol - we'd show you, but then we'd have to kill you. Funny how all that TS intellegence and ISIS

storms out of nowhere with the most primitive technology and we're running around like chickens without heads spending $100 billion wondering how it happened and what to do about it.

Meanwhile Russia invades Ukraine, Nigeria and Libya are going to hell.

All the money we spend on "security" just seems to be making things worse.

Sort of like the drug war.

One might think there is more profit to be gained from war than peace.

[DeSwiss]

25. Well they got ''traitors'' and ''the DoD'' part right.

- And they're still there.......

K&R

[Autumn]

41. He should have hooked up with Betrayus's girlfriend.

or at least his "lawyer" or both.