Betrayus escaped prison - nice deal - Fugging shocking if you ask me

[malaise]

How neat. Imagine he gave away national secrets for profit and lust.

At least Snowden is a whistle blower

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Does he get to keep his military and governmental pensions and benefits?

I suspect the answer might be yes, since I haven't heard any mention of them yet. Same old same old. Rich or powerful or connected? Get off with a slap on the wrist. Poor and an outsider? Go directly to jail, do not collect $200.

[Liberal_in_LA]

15. probably

[Sparhawk60]

30. The Higher You Are..

Yup, the higher you are, the less you pay for your crimes. A mid-level executive for an Government organization I worked for was caught stealing three computers. His punishment? He was reassigned to be my boss.

Now, some would argue that being my boss is a fate worst than death. However; it sure beats being fired and jail time, like a peon would have gotten for stealing three computers.

[HereSince1628]

31. Too big to jail. Amerika! I luv this country!

[williesgirl]

2. And a misdemeanor at that! Disgusting.

[R B Garr]

3. His paramour is a Ringknocker from West Point and ex-military

I would bet that came into play when considering his transgressions.

[malaise]

4. She was working on his biography

That should have come into play.

[R B Garr]

9. He gave away secrets to a West Point graduate and ex-military.

Not that that is acceptable, but she wasn't unvetted to other military brass which I would bet they took into consideration.

[KingCharlemagne]

41. OT, but learned a new expression - 'ring knocker' - which

I had never heard before today.

A slang term for military college or university graduates. It refers to the large graduation rings that are usually worn by said persons, and to the tradition of knocking the ring on a table to quiet a boisterous room.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ring+knocker

Thanks!

[sabrina 1]

5. They had to avoid a trial. It would have revealed what a joke our talk of National Security really

is. When two foreign women have free access to 'secure military bases' to party, you have to wonder, what else do we not know?

The deal is to cover up what could have been revealed and to save embarrassment for more than Petraeus.

I keep remembering when Rahm told Moveon to remove their 'Betrayus' ad in an angry defense of Petraeus. I wonder, has anyone asked Rahm how he feels about that now?

Airc he called our ideas 'retarded'. Looks like our ideas were dead on, as usual.

[malaise]

6. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah re Rahm

Looks like his campaign was retarded

I remember the Betraeus outrage - Damn Moveon and DUers were correct

[sabrina 1]

7. Me too, Rahm was very, very angry at the Left, but then what is else is new re Rahm? He

was WRONG again. I think someone should ask him about that during the run off, 'how did you get the Petraeus story so WRONG when even those with 'retarded ideas' got it right'?

So sick of these arrogant, condescending Third Wayers who seem to get nothing right, yet go all out attacking those who do, like Elizabeth Warren.

We need to start exposing them, don't let him just remain silent on this. He wants to entrusted again with a powerful position. His gross error of judgement in the case of Petraeus SHOULD be raised.

[malaise]

8. +1,000

Expose all of them

[KingCharlemagne]

42. Rahm's brilliance cost us the House in 2010. His punishment? Oh, just the

Mayoralty of Chicago.

With friends like Rahm . . .

[sabrina 1]

47. Yes, it did cost us the House in 2010. Maybe that's what he wanted considering his total disdain

for the base of the party.

[KingCharlemagne]

55. A little history refresher course for those who may not have been paying close

attention in 2010 (or who may have forgotten in the years hence):

1) Progressives wanted to mount progressive primary challenges against Blue Dog Dems;
2) Rahm declared such a desire 'retarded' (direct quote);
3) Blue Dog Dems (whom Rahm had backed) got shellacked in the general election, while progressive Dems emerged largely unscathed.

Now maybe progressive Dems who defeated Blue Dog Dems in the primary also would have lost to TP candidates in 2010. Point is, we the 'retarded' will never know, thanks to Rahm's brilliant strategy.

It's not like Dems haven't faced such a dilemma before:

I've seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the fair Deal, and says he really doesn't believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat. . . .

~Harry S. Truman (1952)

[KoKo]

10. Interesting....seems "Different Strokes for Different Politically Connected Folks"...n/t

[Fumesucker]

11. Avoid this thread in droves the Snowwald haters will

Transparent they are.

[KittyWampus]

34. Your own comment is the most revealing. I think they are both traitors.

[Fumesucker]

36. Should one set be punished more severely than another is the question

And the point of the thread.

If Snowden had been facing what Petraeus has won himself would he have fled?

Seriously.

Remember that MoveOn was condemned by the Democrats for pointing out Petraeus less than forthright manner.

[sabrina 1]

48. In which case, Snowden will get off the same way Petraeus has. And Chelsea Manning will be released

on probation. Drake and Binney will be compensated for the years of persecution they suffered and from now on, maybe our leaders will make it safe for Whistle Blowers to do as Drake and Binney did, use the so-called protections we claim to give Whistle Blowers by taking all the right steps, which they did.

Equal under the law! What a joke that is.

[mother earth]

12. It's not shocking though, is it? It is exactly what we have come to expect, yet the illusion for

some continues.

[riderinthestorm]

13. Kiriakou got 30 months based almost entirely on circumstantial evidence.

Its outrageous the double standards!!!!

Petraeus had 8 notebooks of secrets - agents, passwords, programs etc.

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. equal justice under the law is a joke

just another example of this

[sabrina 1]

50. And recently a blogger got 5 years for linking to the leaks, he wasn't the leaker, Anonymous was

airc, from Stratfor. I have linked to those links as far as I remember, they revealed the 'contract bid' on smearing Progressive/Liberal organizations which included Glenn Greenwald.

Equal under the law is only for Democracies I guess.

[Doctor_J]

14. You're surprised that the DoJ let another insider off the hook?

I would have been shocked if Betrayus HAD gone to prison

[BrotherIvan]

16. Me too

[malaise]

25. Systems cannot survive this obvious double standard

How neat that this was 'news' on a very crowded day.

[Rex]

17. Shhhh...don't bring him up! Heads will explode!

We must continue on with the great kabuki theater!

[sabrina 1]

51. Well, we have been told that the 'truth doesn't matter' right here on DU. So

yes, let the political games continue. They are working so well for the elite!

[whereisjustice]

18. And his "surge" was Mission Accomplished II, we all see how that worked out eom

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. The materials in the eight “Black Books” he shared should shock you

DOJ quietly announced it had reached a plea deal with former CIA Director David Petraeus for leaking Top Secret/Secure Compartmented Information materials to his mistress, Paula Broadwell.

Among the materials in the eight “Black Books” Petraeus shared with Broadwell were:

…classified information regarding the identities of covert officers, war strategy, intelligence capabilities and mechanisms, diplomatic discussions, quotes and deliberative discussions from high-level National Security Council meetings, and defendant DAVID HOWELL PETRAEUS’s discussions with the President of the United States of America.

The Black Books contained national defense information, including Top Secret/SCI and code word information.

Petraeus kept those Black Books full of code word information including covert identities and conversations with the President “in a rucksack up there somewhere.”

Petreaus retained those Black Books after he signed his debriefing agreement upon leaving DOD, in which he attested “I give my assurance that there is no classified material in my possession, custody, or control at this time.” He kept those Black Books in an unlocked desk drawer.

For mishandling some of the most important secrets the nation has, Petraeus will plead guilty to a misdemeanor. Petraeus, now an employee of a top private equity firm, will be fined $40,000 and serve two years of probation.

He will not, however, be asked to plead guilty at all for lying to FBI investigators. In an interview on October 26, 2012, he told the FBI,

(a) he had never provided any classified information to his biographer, and (b) he had never facilitated the provision of classified information to his biographer.

For lying to the FBI — a crime that others go to prison for for months and years — Petraeus will just get a two point enhancement on his sentencing guidelines. The Department of Justice basically completely wiped away the crime of covering up his crime of leaking some of the country’s most sensitive secrets to his mistress.

When John Kiriakou pled guilty on October 23, 2012 to crimes having to do with sharing a single covert officer’s identity just days before Petraeus would lie to the FBI about sharing, among other things, numerous covert officers’ identities with his mistress, Petraeus sent out a memo to the CIA stating,

Oaths do matter, and there are indeed consequences for those who believe they are above the laws that protect our fellow officers and enable American intelligence agencies to operate with the requisite degree of secrecy.

David Petraeus is now proof of what a lie that statement was.


https://exposefacts.org/david-petraeus-gets-hand-slap-for-leaking-two-point-enhancement-for-obstruction-of-justice/

[malaise]

26. Apparently nothing matters other than one's connections

Expect to see him on Fox.

[Ichingcarpenter]

27. that author's article nailed it ..all should read it

Betrayus is now employed by



General (Ret) David H. Petraeus (Washington, DC) started working with KKR in 2013 and is Chairman of the KKR Global Institute. Gen. Petraeus is involved in the KKR investment process and oversees the Institute's thought leadership platform focused on geopolitical and macro-economic trends, as well as environmental, social, and governance issues.

http://www.kkr.com/our-firm/leadership/david-h-petraeus


In May 2013, it was announced that Petraeus would head KKR & Co. LP's new global investment think tank - the KKR Global Institute.

Here is a Muckety map of Petraeus and his various connections.

Here is a previous Think Tank Watch post on how Petraeus has been "cozy" with a variety of think tanks. Petraeus's former lover, Paula Broadwell, also had a connection to think tanks.

Last month, RUSI announced that former MI5 chief Sir Jonathan Evans would be a Senior Associate Fellow at the think tank.

RUSI was founded in 1831 by the Duke of Wellington. It is a British institution but has satellite offices in Doha, Tokyo, and Washington, DC. Her Majesty the Queen is a Patron of RUSI. His Royal Highness The Duke of Kent is the President of RUSI.

RUSI was recently ranked as the 42nd best think tank in the world by the annual University of Pennsylvania think tank rankings. It was also ranked as the 23rd best non-US think tank. RUSI was ranked as the 17th best security and international affairs think tank in the world. The think tank was also ranked as the 4th best government-affiliated think tank in the world (after the World Bank Institute, United States Institute for Peace, and the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences).


http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2013/08/petraeus-joins-british-think-tank-rusi.html


Fmr. CIA Director Petraeus Cozy With Think Tanks

http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2012/11/fmr-cia-director-petraeus-cozy-with.html

[TexasTowelie]

28. Will he be asked to pee in the cup?

Will he have to do community service? Will he have to attend classes on the responsibilities of not leaving top-secret material available outside the chain-of-custody requirements? Will he have to meet each month with a probation officer and prove that he is gainfully employed?

So many questions that won't be answered.

[Monk06]

20. Does this mean Jonathan Pollard gets out of jail now?

[Monk06]

21. Yes and Snowdon should get the same deal. Plead misdemeanor, do some leaf blowing for a week and

go home.

[Monk06]

23. Does this mean Jonathan Pollard gets out of jail now?

[Ichingcarpenter]

24. why post this twice?

pollard is not a good example unless you are an Israeli.

[Monk06]

38. Must have posted thrice. I already deleted one. That's happened a couple of times now.

[elias49]

29. Kick

"Please allow me to begin my remarks this evening by reiterating how deeply I regret and apologize for the circumstances that led to my resignation from the CIA and caused such pain for my family, friends and supporters,"

Sorry about those pesky 'circumstances' - it wasn't HIM, it was circumstances!
When an apology isn't an apology. Dirt bag.

[Avalux]

32. The privileged enjoy a different legal system than the rest of us.

A slap on the wrist for being a bad boy, and off he goes, back to his lucrative lobbying job. Fucking disgusting.

[KittyWampus]

33. Have they even mentioned it more than in just passing in the media?

[onenote]

35. Slightly harsher treatment than John Deutch or Sandy Berger

But in the same ballpark.

[former9thward]

37. He plead to a misdemeanor.

No criminal record. No one is going to be sentenced to prison with those circumstances. The prosecutor certainly could not prove "he gave away national secrets for profit and lust" as that would be an easy felony.

[TheKentuckian]

43. Couldn't or wouldn't? Doesn't seem the facts are in dispute just how they are spun.

[former9thward]

45. Plea deals are criticized all the time.

But they are the only way a modern U.S. court can even halfway function. Even the prosecutor said no classified information was released by the 'biographer'. When Sandy Berger, Clinton's national security adviser, stole papers from the National Archives, he was only charged with a misdemeanor. He received a fine.

[TheKentuckian]

46. I believe less connected folks would have been more harshly prosecuted in the same situations

It isn't the "modern US court" but age old corruption.

[former9thward]

54. I don't argue that

but people who have classified documents sitting around at home, or can view classified documents at the National Archives, are by definition well connected.

[Blue_Tires]

39. The case should have been under the jurisdiction of the UCMJ

since a court martial is a bit harder to "lawyer" your way out of...

On the bright side, at least the general didn't share his files and expertise with foreign governments (at least I hope not)

[KingCharlemagne]

44. I think Betray-us gave the secrets to Broadwell after he had formally

resigned his commission in the military, thus no longer subject to the UCMJ jurisdiction. But IANAL and may be in error as to how far and long the UCMJ's jurisdiction lasts.

[Blue_Tires]

57. Retired regulars who draw pay are subject to the UCMJ for life

http://nation.time.com/2012/11/13/could-petraeus-face-a-court-martial/

[bullwinkle428]

40. Betrayus had excellent lawyers - the same ones that are now working for Hillary!

[Octafish]

49. Manning's got 35 years to think about it.

All Chelsea did was tell the truth to expose war crimes.

How 'bout that transparency, Cass?

[2naSalit]

52. I think there's

a writhing can of ugly worms under the surface of this one. I am suspicious of the Broadwell position. She "wrote" a literary BJ for him and was privy to too much info. Maybe she was a plant to help get him out of the limelight, maybe he was put in the CIA with the hope of keeping him quiet and satiated for a time. I suspect he had a lot to do with the Benghazi events of fame and the resignation over an affair was good cover in the end. And how come nothing is happening to Broadwell? She has been whisked off the stage rather quickly after the general stepped down. there were lots of other folks who got scrutinized but not her. Smells too fishy, and now this unsurprising revelation, whoopeee.

There's so much swept under this particular rug that it resembles a mound of manure covered with a finely woven tarpaulin.

[malaise]

53. Excellent post

Thanks

[2naSalit]

56. and back at you!

You do offer up some great OPs and comments.

I think that story was the one that prompted me to stop lurking and actually start commenting here. I had been an occasional lurker since the late 90s.

Anyway, I have to go get something of marginal import accomplished so I can come bask and play later on when it gets dark and cold outside... it's a nice sunny day right now so I need to go enjoy that while doing my chores (like gathering the wood for the night and other related chores).