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A suggestion. If you want people to rally around your candidate for President, (Original Post) mmonk Mar 2015 OP
+1 peacebird Mar 2015 #1
Perhaps we should just coronate Hillary now. After all, "it's her turn" -- right? n/t BP2 Mar 2015 #26
Ironic OKNancy Mar 2015 #2
So they should rally around the candidate.... daleanime Mar 2015 #4
Of course it does. In fact I would venture that some of disparaging remarks on Hillary and the still_one Mar 2015 #5
It goes any way. I didn't name anybody. mmonk Mar 2015 #8
No Motown_Johnny Mar 2015 #11
LOL er wut!? Rex Mar 2015 #15
I read the OP as posters should not insult each other OKNancy Mar 2015 #17
'THe irony is that Hillary supports take 10 times the insults.' Rex Mar 2015 #19
It's the supporters taking the insults? daleanime Mar 2015 #24
I think some here ascribe to the Rahm School of Politics - insults and contempt, because djean111 Mar 2015 #3
Any more, I simply decided to skip the inn. Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #7
Did u eva hit the proverbial "nail on the head"! Every argument re Hillary's stance on issues seems 2 always evolve into a personal attack on the person makin it... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #9
And is why, most likely, he wasn't part of the Obama primaries team. mmonk Mar 2015 #12
"Submit, or we will crush you!" bullwinkle428 Mar 2015 #13
"The beatings will continue MissDeeds Mar 2015 #21
Yeah, I agree. All those insults directed toward Sanders and Warren are completely unwarranted Roland99 Mar 2015 #6
+1 RiverLover Mar 2015 #10
Another suggestion. Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #14
It was a suggestion, not some sort of demand. mmonk Mar 2015 #16
that is the way I read your post, and I agree! OKNancy Mar 2015 #18
Agreed. Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #20
Most people on DU do the primary cycle thing all wrong. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #22
LOL. mmonk Mar 2015 #28
That threshold was passed long ago. 99Forever Mar 2015 #23
That is where the paradox comes in, some Hillary backers say that those who say they won't dissentient Mar 2015 #25
And in truth, her supporters constantly pushing the 'she's inevitable' meme is not helping HRC peacebird Mar 2015 #27

still_one

(92,187 posts)
5. Of course it does. In fact I would venture that some of disparaging remarks on Hillary and the
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:21 AM
Mar 2015

President here on DU are far worse

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
8. It goes any way. I didn't name anybody.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:35 AM
Mar 2015

Candidates need volunteers after they get through primaries.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
11. No
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:57 AM
Mar 2015

The people who have chosen to run for public office have put themselves out there and know that criticism is a foregone conclusion.

Voters should not expect to be insulted simply for preferring a different candidate.


It does not go both ways and it is not ironic.


 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. LOL er wut!?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:16 AM
Mar 2015

For it to go both ways, it would have to be this;

"If you want your candidate for President to rally around people, the candidate shouldn't spend too many months insulting them."

I GUESS that could be possible, yet it is not very ironic.


OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
17. I read the OP as posters should not insult each other
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:29 AM
Mar 2015

I read it as if you insult for example Sanders supporters, then you shouldn't expect those supporters to support your candidate.
THe irony is that Hillary supporters take 10 times the insults.

So that is why I wrote what I did.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. 'THe irony is that Hillary supports take 10 times the insults.'
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:30 AM
Mar 2015

That is true, I really don't even see anyone attacking Warren or Sanders on DU. Just HRC.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. I think some here ascribe to the Rahm School of Politics - insults and contempt, because
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:13 AM
Mar 2015

who else are us "fucking retards" gonna vote for? I think being able to count on that is nearing its shelf life. As, hopefully, Rahm himself may soon find out. It will take a great deal of money and bullying for him to win the run-off, methinks.

Gee, when it takes so much money and so much bullying and insulting to get people to vote for a candidate, wouldn't it occur to anyone that perhaps the problem is the candidate? But then, this is what happens when the candidate is pre-selected, IMO.
Some days it seems like the Hillary camp is running the Democratic Party like Procrustes ran his inn - fit in the bed, or get your feet chopped off.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
9. Did u eva hit the proverbial "nail on the head"! Every argument re Hillary's stance on issues seems 2 always evolve into a personal attack on the person makin it...
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:54 AM
Mar 2015

Really makes you stop and wonder what's wrong with Hillary as a candidate that some here - certainly not all - act that way.

Hillary reflects so much of what's wrong with this country, with her corporate leanings and hawkish foreign policy positions. Indeed, out of the two dozen or so of my closest friends and relatives - all of whom, but one "misguided unfortunate," are registered Democrats - only FOUR are (mildly) pro-Hillary; the rest are vehemently opposed to her candidacy for all the valid reasons espoused here.

Even though that's a small sample size, it does make me wonder how her poll numbers, while starting to fall, are still relatively high. Could it be simply because, as of right now, that is no perceived viable affirmative?

I'm not sure, but this much I do know: Hillary has to seriously step up her game upon declaring her candidacy, especially as the front runner, where she will attract so much media attention. People are looking for a genuine candidate who can articulate issues from the heart - cough, cough... Elizabeth Warren...cough - which even Hillary's most ardent supporters must admit are not her strengths.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
21. "The beatings will continue
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:52 AM
Mar 2015

until morale improves". Yeah, that's going to work well and win a lot of converts.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
14. Another suggestion.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:09 AM
Mar 2015

If you're going to participate on a political message board, toughen up, and don't expect others to kiss your behind and grovel for your support.

Insults are often met with insults, snark with snark and so on...


mmonk

(52,589 posts)
16. It was a suggestion, not some sort of demand.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:25 AM
Mar 2015

Can't debate candidates and their positions without personal insults to the voter?

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
20. Agreed.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:43 AM
Mar 2015

As I said, insults are often met with insults, snark with snark, etc...

Works both ways.

Whether someone does or doesn't get on board as a result of what gets posted here seems odd to me, I suppose. I certainly don't expect anyone around here to grovel for my support while I continue to hurl insults at them left and right.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. Most people on DU do the primary cycle thing all wrong.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:17 AM
Mar 2015

I'd explain, but I have no desire to crowd the decks with more people who understand how to advance policy positions using the primary as a tool. It's better that the slower students glom onto some personality and play that game. Keeps then out of the way of those doing actual politics.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
28. LOL.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:41 PM
Mar 2015

Yep. Like when candidates drop out along the way when something becomes apparent. If they were duly offended by one's candidate's supporters, it's doubtful that's where they throw their support among the remaining candidates.

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
25. That is where the paradox comes in, some Hillary backers say that those who say they won't
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:48 PM
Mar 2015

support her are handing the election to the republicans or are supporting the republican candidate, assuming Hillary is the nominee, while others say it doesn't matter because the non-Hillary fans are such a small part, such an insignificant number, that who they might vote for and support doesn't matter.

Can't have it both ways....

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