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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:23 AM Mar 2015

Iran ‘Taking Over’ Iraq, Saudis Warn, Blaming U.S. Refusal To Send Troops Against ISIS

Richard Spencer, The Telegraph | March 5, 2015 | Last Updated: Mar 5 11:57 PM ET

Saudi Arabia became the second key American ally in the Middle East to demand U.S. President Barack Obama change tack towards Iran Thursday, as it called for U.S.-led coalition “boots on the ground” to fight the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham.

At a meeting in Riyadh, Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi foreign minister, told John Kerry, the U.S. secretary of state, he risked allowing Iran to “take over Iraq,” echoing Israel’s recent concerns over the White House’s policy toward Tehran.

The United States and its coalition allies are attacking ISIS positions from the air in both Syria and Iraq, but refusing to send troops. As a result, outside Kurdish areas, the offensive in both countries is heavily influenced by Iran and its proxy Shiite militias, such as Hezbollah.

This has raised serious concerns in Saudi Arabia, Iran’s Sunni rival for Middle East dominance.

The Iraqi government is laying siege to ISIS positions in Tikrit, Saddam Hussein’s home city north of Baghdad. But most of its forces are under the command of government-aligned Shiite militias, whose leaders are close to the Iranian regime, even though the population of Tikrit is largely Sunni.

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/05/iran-taking-over-iraq-saudis-warn-blaming-u-s-refusal-to-send-troops-against-isis/

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Iran ‘Taking Over’ Iraq, Saudis Warn, Blaming U.S. Refusal To Send Troops Against ISIS (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2015 OP
Yes, seeing that it's been wealthy Saudis and saudis fighters glowing Mar 2015 #1
Yes, the Saudis would prefer for the US to commit ground troops to the ground wars in Iraq and Syria TexasTowelie Mar 2015 #2
Saudi elite have several sons, send your own boots to your neighbor countries. Sunlei Mar 2015 #3
I would think Sherman A1 Mar 2015 #4
poor babies DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #5
Iran and its Iraqi/Syrian/Lebanese allies are succeeding where US/Saudi/Gulf/Israel have failed Takashi Zara Mar 2015 #6
This jamzrockz Mar 2015 #10
Over 27 Million people live in Saudi Arabia with 64% of them 15–64 years old anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #7
ISIS is not Shi'a Skidmore Mar 2015 #8
I don't remember any Iranians haikugal Mar 2015 #9
This is the biggest reason jamzrockz Mar 2015 #11
Saudi royalty and soldiers are welcome to fight ISIS Dems to Win Mar 2015 #12
We are already over there - as "advisors" (cough) and with air strikes. riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #13
 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
1. Yes, seeing that it's been wealthy Saudis and saudis fighters
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:13 AM
Mar 2015

who have helped to bring ISIS into play in the first place. Those beheadings they are so fond of are straight from the strict punishments of Saudi culture... How many beheadings has the govt done in the last day or two? 4 or 2 a day? Women who can't drive or own anything?

The whole mess is a mess for years before the U.S. was a country and will be probably up until extinction time.. Who knows, maybe one of those countries sets off the nuclear war race... I means seriously, we're worried about Iran having a nuclear weapon and Pakistan has them already? And India? Talk about crazy!

TexasTowelie

(112,168 posts)
2. Yes, the Saudis would prefer for the US to commit ground troops to the ground wars in Iraq and Syria
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:17 AM
Mar 2015

much like Israel wants for us to do. This is a war to be fought in the Middle East by the people of the Middle East so this administration is doing the correct thing by not getting involved in a situation that would cause conservatives to seethe in anger as soon as American blood is spilled or another American is taken hostage.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. I would think
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:09 AM
Mar 2015

that we could do so, just after the Saudi's put a significant number of boots on the ground to do so......

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
5. poor babies
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:25 AM
Mar 2015

Gee, maybe if some of you brave allies did not supply 15 out of 19 hijackers, and then try to use us to hand you Saddam's head, maybe you would not be in this position.

I know the chaos would be too great, and we do not want Al Baghaddi getting his hands on that much wealth, but if I had my choice of watching the royal house of saud get beheaded, or any poor bum, I would watch the sauds, though would it be against culutral senisbilities to suggest they use a guillotine rather than a sword?

 

Takashi Zara

(34 posts)
6. Iran and its Iraqi/Syrian/Lebanese allies are succeeding where US/Saudi/Gulf/Israel have failed
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:45 AM
Mar 2015

ISIS is on the run in Iraq and Syria, largely due to the assistance provided to the Syrian & Iraqi governments by Iran and Hizbullah. I'm not sure I can muster up one wrinkled rat fuck if Saudi Arabia and the other wahhabi gulf tyrants are nervous about this development.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
10. This
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:02 AM
Mar 2015

And I can imagine a nightmare scenario for no extremist terrorist Syrians would be the further involvement o Saudi Arabia in anyway into the situation in Syria.

I scratch my head every time I read a post saying things like "we will send US troops once the Saudi's send some of their own troops" no normal person should be OK with allowing that extremist country trying to "help" another country. If it was up to me, that country will be sanctioned until they stop using their oil money to push their extremist form of Islam around the world.

We can see the result of all those religious schools started in Nigeria by the Saudis in Boko Haram. Remember folks, they are a big part of the "friends" of Syria coalition.

 

anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
7. Over 27 Million people live in Saudi Arabia with 64% of them 15–64 years old
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:52 AM
Mar 2015

They have plenty of people and equipment to fight ISIS.

If they don't want to fight them, they can live under ISIS rulers instead.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
8. ISIS is not Shi'a
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:04 AM
Mar 2015

and is funded by wealthy Saudis. Now they can't control the marauders and suddenly they are worried.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
9. I don't remember any Iranians
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:57 AM
Mar 2015

On the flights of 9/11...

The Saudies have been very busy exporting radical Islam and supporting armed conflict...I have no interest in our country continuing our support for their wars any more than I support us backing, paying for and supplying Israeli aggression.

We need to stop subsidizing oil and concentrate on greening our energy.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
11. This is the biggest reason
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:05 AM
Mar 2015

why I support green technology. Anything to deprive the Saudis of money to fund their destructive policies is going to be a boost for the world and especially the region.

Plus, without oil, I doubt the US will see any need to continuously involve themselves in ME affair.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
12. Saudi royalty and soldiers are welcome to fight ISIS
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:56 PM
Mar 2015

I bet gold-plated boots on the ground will be so much more effective than infidel American boots.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
13. We are already over there - as "advisors" (cough) and with air strikes.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:03 PM
Mar 2015

Thats plenty. Anymore troops need to come from Saudi Arabia if they fear the Iranian influence.

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