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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie Sanders: Calls Saudi Demand for U.S. Ground Troops ‘Offensive’
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-calls-saudi-demand-for-us-ground-troops-offensive
BubbaFett
(361 posts)in faith.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Wouldn't it be nice if they did a good job of it?
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)The Iraqis have been incredibly ineffective. They abandoned their arms and equipment the moment ISIS entered Mosul, and have done little since then. They recently announced that they are going to take Mosul back....in April. Giving these guys plenty of time to inflict as much damage until then.
The Kurds have been great at holding their own in their own territories and defending their own people. Not so much for minorities in their region.
The Iranians have been supplying help to the Iraqis and Syrians as needed. With the latter, however, they are more focused on wiping out the Free Syrian Army and other moderate to semi-extremist groups. Those groups pose a bigger threat to the regime than the savages of ISIS. Leaving ISIS as the only alternative to Assad allows both the Syrians and the world to rally around the regime as the lesser of two evils.
As for the Saudis, this call to arms is nothing more than a charade. ISIS shares the same ideology as the Wahhabi country, and according to a report by NPR, Saudi and the Gulf states remain the biggest funders of ISIS.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)And still no invasion of Italy via Libya...wasn't that scary????
eissa
(4,238 posts)Dude, I'm from the region. I have family in both Syria and Iraq. The ones in Syria are in the Khabur region where recently 200 Assyrians (some that we know) were abducted by ISIS. So, um, yeah, kind of familiar with the area. The only areas of Mosul that are under attack are the archeological sites that ISIS is destroying. Kobani was taken with help from American-led airstrikes.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I can't imagine we bothered training htem to be an effective force - after all, we don't want nations with strong militaries in the middle east.
eissa
(4,238 posts)I just don't think they're going to risk their necks for those that don't belong to their tribe/sect.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Qatar--whether purposefully or inadvertently, it's not clear, but the idea was to use Sunni jihadis to overthrow Assad and hamper Iranian influence.
eissa
(4,238 posts)They recently announced that they would block refugees fleeing ISIS from Syria and Iraq from crossing into Turkey, but they somehow "cannot control" the foreign fighters that routinely cross into those countries from Turkey.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)If a "Kurdistan" is created, a sizeable chunk of Turkey would like to join it. The Turkish government would prefer that to not happen.
Keep the fighting in Syria and Iraq so it isn't rebels in Turkey.
There are so many national agendas, so many complex and fleeting alignments, and millions of innocent civilians are paying the price.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...their soldiers may join ISIS and turn their guns on them.
- K&R
leveymg
(36,418 posts)erronis
(15,241 posts)Just like the Israelis.
Nothing both of these groups would like to see better than the USA engaged in another losing battle. The Sauds are fairly obviously against the Western life (except when they go on junkets) while the Zionists want someone else to deflect anger away from their power/land grabs.
And the americans are suckers for the PR/lobbyist machines.
irisblue
(32,973 posts)when did the Saudis ask for American troops?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)demanded US troops on the ground. It's in the news, look it up. From what I can see DU is thrilled when Saudis demand troops, this place has been silent on that.
irisblue
(32,973 posts)you wanna play, send your children to catch.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)agreed to trade in petro dollars?
Rex
(65,616 posts)There I said it.
beaglelover
(3,478 posts)The US should only put boots on the ground if ISIS is on US soil. The mid east countries need to fight ISIS, not us. Fuck SA.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Saudi royalty and soldiers are welcome to fight ISIS. We'll hold their coats.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Yay, Bernie!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
99Forever
(14,524 posts)He speaks truth to power and isn't intimidated or OWNED by the scum of the Earth.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)the anus mundi.
Kick for Bernie telling it like it is.