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NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 07:48 PM Mar 2015

CIA, Crack Cocaine and the African American community

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:33 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/10/gary-webb-dark-alliance_n_5961748.html

LOS ANGELES -- With the public in the U.S. and Latin America becoming increasingly skeptical of the war on drugs, key figures in a scandal that once rocked the Central Intelligence Agency are coming forward to tell their stories in a new documentary and in a series of interviews with The Huffington Post.

More than 18 years have passed since Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Gary Webb stunned the world with his “Dark Alliance” newspaper series investigating the connections between the CIA, a crack cocaine explosion in the predominantly African-American neighborhoods of South Los Angeles, and the Nicaraguan Contra fighters -- scandalous implications that outraged LA’s black community, severely damaged the intelligence agency's reputation and launched a number of federal investigations.

Jesus christ
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CIA, Crack Cocaine and the African American community (Original Post) NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 OP
This is why DC power mongers pulled together to keep Kerry out of the WH.(R&D) blm Mar 2015 #1
Watching the movie, Jeremy Renner, getting angry... NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #2
Parenti has written about this extensively Doctor_J Mar 2015 #3
A snippet or two might draw more interest in your post than just a blind link with no content... Ghost in the Machine Mar 2015 #4
I saw Kill The Messenger awhile back, and thought it was rather well done Electric Monk Mar 2015 #5
I didn't know it was released yet yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #17
It's been out on DVD for a month now Electric Monk Mar 2015 #18
Oh I am behind. Thanks! yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #22
DU 2004: Robert Parry: 'America's Debt to Journalist Gary Webb' Octafish Mar 2015 #6
I think this had something to do with something relating to the link JonLP24 Mar 2015 #7
Secret Government is Corrupt Government Octafish Mar 2015 #9
Definitely JonLP24 Mar 2015 #21
Most damaging president of all time, corrupt, ignorant, etc. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #11
I knew the basics, I didnt know this whole story, I am so fucking angry NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #8
Interesting, he "committed suicide" by shooting himself two times in the head dissentient Mar 2015 #10
I am not at the end of the movie yet....so the truth teller killed himself, what a fucking joke NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #12
Nothing to see here.... Wella Mar 2015 #16
His ex-wife aware of his deepening depression did not question it Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #19
Is for sure he typed them out? JonLP24 Mar 2015 #23
Parts were handwritten and parts were typed.... Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #29
You add the Contra fiasco into this and it makes the Reagan Era that much more Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #13
More Poppy Bush's operation. Reagan didn't know even half the cr@p blm Mar 2015 #14
Nothing would surprise me. What if we found out the CIA Enthusiast Mar 2015 #26
With Bushes - expect any evil imaginable. Reagan family hated Poppy. blm Mar 2015 #28
I'm sure the CIA will gladly investigate themselves and assure us they found nothing. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #15
The corruption is oozing from our wounds..... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #20
The worst part? Enthusiast Mar 2015 #25
The architects of this travesty should face execution. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #24
I was in LA at the time and watched the crack explosion first-hand leveymg Mar 2015 #27
And yet there are folks today, right here and elsewhere, who will INSIST there is NO NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #30
Tons of info in this thread: johnnyreb Mar 2015 #31
Yup, Still here. And Still waiting for JUSTICE for Gary Webb 777man May 2015 #32

blm

(113,059 posts)
1. This is why DC power mongers pulled together to keep Kerry out of the WH.(R&D)
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:01 PM
Mar 2015

Kerry would have re-opened the books and accessed the additional classified documents that he had always sought on this and on BCCI.

I believe Webb was counting on that, too.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
3. Parenti has written about this extensively
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:09 PM
Mar 2015

This "CT" version is actually much more plausible than the "official" version.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
4. A snippet or two might draw more interest in your post than just a blind link with no content...
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:10 PM
Mar 2015

.. but I'll kick and rec it anyways because it's old news, but there is still deniers out there. I've seen it first hand in Miami when I used to run coke back in the 80's. That's why the CIA is known as the "Cocaine Importing Agency". I believe that Octafish has posted on this a few times, too. You might want to look him up and check his journal.

Many people believe it's a conspiracy theory, but I know different from first hand experience. I can elaborate more if need be, but I won't go much deeper right now. I have to leave for a bit, but will check back later...

Peace,

Ghost

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
5. I saw Kill The Messenger awhile back, and thought it was rather well done
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:12 PM
Mar 2015

especially as an intro for someone not yet familiar with the background history, though I already was familiar with it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216491/

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
17. I didn't know it was released yet
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:32 PM
Mar 2015

I heard that Jeremy Renner was starting in it, but thought it was being released later in the year.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. DU 2004: Robert Parry: 'America's Debt to Journalist Gary Webb'
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:22 PM
Mar 2015
Mon Dec 13th 2004

Here's what a REAL journalist -- one who's interested in the TRUTH -- has to say:

America's Debt to Journalist Gary Webb

By Robert Parry
December 13, 2004

In 1996, journalist Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that forced a long-overdue investigation of a very dark chapter of recent U.S. foreign policy – the Reagan-Bush administration’s protection of cocaine traffickers who operated under the cover of the Nicaraguan contra war in the 1980s.

For his brave reporting at the San Jose Mercury News, Webb paid a high price. He was attacked by journalistic colleagues at the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the American Journalism Review and even the Nation magazine. Under this media pressure, his editor Jerry Ceppos sold out the story and demoted Webb, causing him to quit the Mercury News. Even Webb’s marriage broke up.

On Friday, Dec. 10, Gary Webb, 49, died of an apparent suicide, a gunshot wound to the head.

Whatever the details of Webb’s death, American history owes him a huge debt. Though denigrated by much of the national news media, Webb’s contra-cocaine series prompted internal investigations by the Central Intelligence Agency and the Justice Department, probes that confirmed that scores of contra units and contra-connected individuals were implicated in the drug trade. The probes also showed that the Reagan-Bush administration frustrated investigations into those crimes for geopolitical reasons.

Failed Media

Unintentionally, Webb also exposed the cowardice and unprofessional behavior that had become the new trademarks of the major U.S. news media by the mid-1990s. The big news outlets were always hot on the trail of some titillating scandal – the O.J. Simpson case or the Monica Lewinsky scandal – but the major media could no longer grapple with serious crimes of state.

CONTINUED...

https://consortiumnews.com/2004/121304.html


More on why Democrats should give a damn -- and Republicans, Independents and everyone else who cares about the country:

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/al-giordano/2004/12/gary-webb-do-what-he-did

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
7. I think this had something to do with something relating to the link
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:30 PM
Mar 2015

The Reagan Commission on Organized Crime spent much of 1984 attacking Deak’s global foreign exchange firm, Deak-Perera. By the end of the year, Deak was forced to appear before the commission in a testy public interrogation; his financial empire collapsed within days.

A year later, in 1985, Deak was assassinated in his Wall Street high-rise by a paranoid-schizophrenic bag lady from Seattle, who’d been hired for the job by Latin American mobsters, according to a private internal investigation led by former FBI detectives. The assassin, Lois Lang (pictured above), had previously spent several murky years in the underbelly of Silicon Valley, where she fell under the care of a famous Stanford Research Institute psychiatrist, Frederick Melges — an expert on dosing his subjects with drugs and hypnosis to induce “artificial” dissociative states. Perhaps not surprisingly, Dr. Melges was up to his eyeballs in secret CIA behavior modification programs that were going on at Stanford until they were exposed in Congressional hearings in 1977. [For more on this stranger-than-fiction story, read “James Bond and the Killer Bag Lady” co-authored with Alexander Zaitchik.]

Nicholas Deak’s end came fast. Exactly thirty years ago, in 1984, his global financial empire, Deak-Perera, was accused by the Reagan Administration of laundering hundreds of millions of dollars of Colombian drug cartel cash.

Nicholas Deak should’ve been the least likely target for a Reagan Administration takedown over cocaine money laundering, and not only because the same Reagan Administration was busy aiding and abetting the CIA’s mercenary army, the Contras, as they moved cocaine into the US, and illegal weapons into their Honduras bases. What made targeting Deak all the stranger was that one of Deak’s closest longtime friends, William Casey, was head of Reagan’s CIA at that time. And as Gary Webb’s reporting (and Robert Parry’s exposés before and after Webb) have shown, Casey’s CIA was at that very same time aiding and protecting the Contras’ cocaine-running operation.

http://pando.com/2014/10/26/the-biggest-cia-drug-money-scandal-you-never-read/

I can't think of any other executive branch that has more known corruption than Reagan. I don't know why the right looks to those as the glory years.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. Secret Government is Corrupt Government
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:36 PM
Mar 2015

Top-to-Bottom, Financial Predators, Political Money Trumps Peace Traitors, Drug Runners and Money Laundering Banks, Slave Masters and neo-Feudalists, Mass Murdering, Warmongering sons of bitches. While a lot of the the paper work may be classified Top Secret and out of the reach of FOIA, the results are all around to behold and suffer.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. Definitely
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 10:29 PM
Mar 2015

Some very rich people have their hooks in our executive branch, profits, widespread corruption and oversight & accountability is a joke. The Army for some reason, CID appears to be very independent, chooses to punish their own for basically doing the same thing the contractors & doing & getting away with. They could cut the shit out if they really wanted to. It took nearly nearly a decade in Iraq to address something that was so widespread & our Arabian peninsula allies economies are built off the backs off of cheap imported migrant labor & the taking off passports was among the most common claims which is likely SOP for the Saudi contractors -- that it would be unlikely to keep it from the President but Obama does address it.

I don't get why it is so full of shit though, saying the US has long had a "zero tolerance" regarding this is such a joke all designed to look good but it would come across as more honest if they addressed the letting shit go on or the CEO of Halliburon wanted to operate wars with this idea.

Executive Order - Strengthening Protections Against Trafficking In Persons In Federal Contracts

<snip>
The United States has long had a zero-tolerance policy regarding Government employees and contractor personnel engaging in any form of this criminal behavior. As the largest single purchaser of goods and services in the world, the United States Government bears a responsibility to ensure that taxpayer dollars do not contribute to trafficking in persons. By providing our Government workforce with additional tools and training to apply and enforce existing policy, and by providing additional clarity to Government contractors and subcontractors on the steps necessary to fully comply with that policy, this order will help to protect vulnerable individuals as contractors and subcontractors perform vital services and manufacture the goods procured by the United States.

<snip>
regarding this part below, all this did was put TCNs into a situation to admit the paid fees to bait & switch recruiters, terminated on the spot for saying "yes" -- many say "no" because they need the year's salary (estimated to make a little less than 2 dollars an hour) to make back what they paid to the bait & switch recruiters. If the contractor is contacted directly for work, they tell to them to talk to an agent or a recruiter located in their area.

(i) using misleading or fraudulent recruitment practices during the recruitment of employees, such as failing to disclose basic information or making material misrepresentations regarding the key terms and conditions of employment, including wages and fringe benefits, the location of work, living conditions and housing (if employer provided or arranged), any significant costs to be charged to the employee, and, if applicable, the hazardous nature of the work;

(ii) charging employees recruitment fees;

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/25/executive-order-strengthening-protections-against-trafficking-persons-fe

I'm not aware of anything officially addressed regarding the abuse & trafficking, finding a suspect to indefinitely detain ranks as a more pressing concern.

Back to the very rich, when it comes to Columbia, Afghanistan, what Reagan-CIA was involved in is if someone is wealthy but is interested in increasing their profits like any venture capitalist, with the profits to be made in drug trafficking. Wachovia $378 billion in Mexico cartels money alone, hell they make a killing just selling the precursor, that the wealthy elite with the conscience of an oil & gas multinational CEO wouldn't want our wars for privatization to also drug traffic on the side. The certainly police it, but mainly just the bottom of the pyramid while the international drug trafficker in Gary Webb's reporting just "disappeared" no one knows where he is. I imagine is living very rich & comfortable somewhere that nobody knows.

I'd have to dig for facts but I believe an international dealer caught so many times at international borders or checkpoints to travel internationally but was let go because he agreed to help them out and was let go to do more international deals and IIRC, was behind some bombings in Bombay or a hotel in India, I believe. We certainly do have a tier based justice system but it is so much part of the status quo that a lot of things, especially the LSD experiments of the CIA are widely known that I don't have much hope left for the world.

I remember reading about the "Peak of Liberalism" and the Hippie era among other things, one the things I read was Eisenhower caught in a bold-faced lie had an effect among other things to lead to a widespread disillusioned with government. I was born in 80's, only remember the 90s so I came after this trusting & admiring the President regardless of party difference so it seems the 50s-70s revelations put a shock into the system, they certainly made sure we got used to it.

My grandpa, sit by the Rush listener -- no doubt Republican who would often come out of the bedroom to repeat a point Rush made. However, he seemed to have nothing but good things to say regarding FDR. He was actually the very first person to even mention an alternative JFK theory. He was showing me the trajectory of the "magic bullet" from his book said it was impossible, said there was someone on the grassy knoll. I don't know if he ever said who but he was into some different things than a typical Republican. I didn't really get to know him knoll to pick his brain but I remember well he was well researched war historian. He had all these different atlas of changing borders & countries during wars, throughout history. I think he maybe liked war strategy a little too much, he often mentioned Hitler likely would have won WWII if he waited until after winter to invade Russia. All I remember is bits & pieces.

McCain spoke at my high school auditorium literally weeks after 9/11 only to address Seniors for some reason, I was 9th grade at-the-time. I asked my grandma her opinion thinking she would like him given that they're both Republicans told she didn't because he "turned Arizona into a right-to-work state" I had no idea what she meant, I was actually baffled since what they called seemed like a good thing, like guaranteed employment is how it came across. My mom said they were teamsters. Lived in Arizona well into the 80s so somehow his name became associated with union busting in state government. Certainly came from a different era.

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
10. Interesting, he "committed suicide" by shooting himself two times in the head
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:38 PM
Mar 2015

Doesn't sound suspicious at all. Just another routine "suicide".

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
12. I am not at the end of the movie yet....so the truth teller killed himself, what a fucking joke
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:40 PM
Mar 2015

this place is (i mean usa NOT someone giving away the ending)

I knew instinctively when I heard the allegation of the CIA and crack and AfAm what happened, now I know for sure

What a brave man this was, to do what he did...A hero that gets shit on, makes me sick

Brother Buzz

(36,427 posts)
19. His ex-wife aware of his deepening depression did not question it
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:41 PM
Mar 2015

He typed out suicide notes to his ex-wife and his three children

He laid out a certificate for his cremation

He taped a note on the door telling movers — who were coming the next morning — to instead call 911. (he lost money when he was forced to sell his house in a depressed market because he couldn't find gainful employment).

He then took out his father's pistol and shot himself in the head. The first shot was not lethal, so he fired once more.

There is no conspiracy; the media held the gun, Gary pulled the trigger.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
23. Is for sure he typed them out?
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 03:45 AM
Mar 2015

Based on American cinema they usually go the extra mile to sell the suicide angle (Deja Vu I think they had a contraption set-up which holds his arm in place with the gun pointed at his head) not that fiction is where I look but I doubt a conspiracy was because it came way after the fact. I know what suicide depression is like, not that it was similar to the depression he had but it was like a sneeze when those impulses hit. If I was to commit suicide or successful in doing so I wouldn't be able to plan it but if he did all that he was deliberate, set into doing it much like the Sunset Limited character. No way you could talk him out of it.

Losing your home & your job certainly ranks as a key stresser so not much leads to wander the other way except for the two gunshots, but a coroner saying so isn't convincing since for the most part, you don't even have to be qualified to be a coroner. I think it is either elections (New Orleans for sure) or appointed but the key thing is there is no oversight or quality control so the mistakes are buried and I never thought to ever second guess a coroner until I saw the Frontline documentary which was blood boiling shit. The New Orleans coroner so incredibly corrupt, caught manipulating "cause of death" favorable for law enforcement. He had no prior relevant qualifications, elected over & over. The Medical Examiner System was pointed to as the recommended way to go but after the sloppy forensics & possibly a manipulating of a photograph if what the expert says is true regarding the hair (I know he had a solid relevant background but hired by the defense, I still believed he was telling the truth when he said there are "some horror stories I could tell you". So I don't have much faith, especially since the head examiner was well known enough that she had her own TV show even before Casey Anthony came into the picture.

Searching for information, can't really find much specifics regarding Sacramento except for an accidental cremation or buried someone in the wrong place just a bunch of articles mentioning a death & the coroner but I came across this which is a sign of in the pathetic shape our coroner system is.

He is a rarity among coroners not only because he is a medical doctor but also because he's a board certified forensic pathologist, which means he's formally trained to perform autopsies after many years of schooling.

Each election, he is in danger of losing his job to someone with no medical training. In many states, the only requirement to get the job is to be of legal age and have no felony convictions.

"A lot of people don't really understand what the coroner does and tend to vote their political affiliation," Dobersen says.

When Election Day arrived, Dobersen, who ran as a Democrat, barely managed to keep his job in the Republican surge, winning 51 percent of the vote.

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/02/133403760/coroners-dont-need-degrees-to-determine-death

A well-qualified coroner nearly lost his job because the other guy was simply a Republican? WTF?

Brother Buzz

(36,427 posts)
29. Parts were handwritten and parts were typed....
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 12:55 PM
Mar 2015

I suspect the estate instructions were typed out.

"The cause of death was determined to be self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head," said a statement issued by the Sacramento County Coroner's Office. "Information and evidence gathered at the scene of death, including a handwritten note indicating an intention on the part of the decedent to take his own life, resulted in 'suicide' as the determined manner of death."




My elected sheriff is also the coroner. He administrates the office but contracts out the actual bone cutting and signs off on the paperwork.

blm

(113,059 posts)
14. More Poppy Bush's operation. Reagan didn't know even half the cr@p
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:55 PM
Mar 2015

that Poppy Bush and his fascist cronies were pulling. That bullet in Reagan made sure he never questioned Poppy's covert ops.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
26. Nothing would surprise me. What if we found out the CIA
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:56 AM
Mar 2015

took some sort of measure to trigger Reagan's dementia so that he couldn't interrupt the operation or spill the beans some way, so to speak?

I wouldn't put anything past these...these malevolent Fascist Nazi wannabes.

blm

(113,059 posts)
28. With Bushes - expect any evil imaginable. Reagan family hated Poppy.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 12:44 PM
Mar 2015

And hated having to dance to their tune for 'party loyalty'.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
15. I'm sure the CIA will gladly investigate themselves and assure us they found nothing.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:19 PM
Mar 2015

Well, maybe some Patriots who were under a lot of pressure and we shouldn't feel too sanctimonious about what they did.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
20. The corruption is oozing from our wounds.....
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:59 PM
Mar 2015

...into the disinfecting light of day.

- K&R

They kept trying to tell us. Ike. Then JFK. And Senators Frank Church and Daniel Inouye. Then the revelations seemed to just stop. Maybe they were in control now. It all sounds so absurd, doesn't it? No one wants to even consider it. And if you repeat it, you're just another crazy CT. That's the beauty of it. It's a self-correcting system of oversight integrity which relies principally upon its victims to protect its existence through their own ignorance and incredulity. And through the constant use of ridicule against those able to see things more objectively and realistically, they maintain a consistent hard outer shell made of incredulous, unknowing people. Because it is understood in our society that being accused of being stupid is the one thing an truly ignorant person hates to be accused of the most.








Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
24. The architects of this travesty should face execution.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:49 AM
Mar 2015

Just how racist does one have to be to target the black community with an incredibly addictive drug that destroyed millions of lives? Those responsible are traitors in the most accurate meaning of the word.

I guess if we can lay the blame on one single individual that individual would be G. H. W. Bush. Because this is just another part of Iran-Contra scandal. The CIA has been running wild ever since and they continue to run wild today.

Their original plan to fund the Contras was misplaced and illegal because, in reality, the Contras were actually the bad guys. Even if it was a worthy cause (it wasn't) the duly elected Congress of the United States of America voted that we would not fund the Contras.

Is it any wonder this nation is in a world of shit?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. I was in LA at the time and watched the crack explosion first-hand
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:21 AM
Mar 2015

East LA was flooded with war refugees from El Salvador and Guatemala. South LA and Compton turned into police states. Mission Accomplished.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
30. And yet there are folks today, right here and elsewhere, who will INSIST there is NO
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:06 PM
Mar 2015

connection between CIA and the crack epidemic.

I have seen such denial myself.

Even if you dont have a witness on record saying they intentionally addicted the AfAm community. this was the result... you notice they didnt dump all these drugs in Bel Air or Beverly Hills, and the people who did get the drugs in those neighborhoods, RARELY go to jail.


johnnyreb

(915 posts)
31. Tons of info in this thread:
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 03:18 PM
Mar 2015

I hope DUer 777man is still with us:

Jeremy Renner Ready To ‘Kill The Messenger’ In Film About CIA-Smeared Journo Gary Webb
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022291453

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