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global1

(25,245 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:12 AM Mar 2015

I'm Sorry - But One Has To Question Hillary's Judgement For Calling This Presser Today.....

it has changed the dialogue already on the cable news channels and has taken the onus off the Repug borderline treasonous letter to Iran. I really thought that she was more politically astute than this and would not have taken today - when the letter issue was starting to get legs - to deflate that issue.

This leads me to a more serious question about her judgement and how that might play into her being a President. I don't know if she has gotten bad advice on this presser or what - but as timing is everything - this is really bad timing.

The news cycle for the rest of the week through the Sunday News shows should have been focused on this Repug Letter.

One would have thought that this letter story would have taken Hillary and her e-mails off the front burner and she would have been happy about that.

I'm sitting here questioning as to whether she might be upset by her story dropping from the news cycle and that she purposely scheduled this presser to regain the attention. Maybe this didn't play into her plans in her quest for the presidency.

What's the old saying about negative publicity even being good?

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I'm Sorry - But One Has To Question Hillary's Judgement For Calling This Presser Today..... (Original Post) global1 Mar 2015 OP
OMG, will she speak?, when will she speak?, she really needs to speak, she caves in and speaks boston bean Mar 2015 #1
She shouldn't. Not today. If it wasn't necessary yesterday, it's not necessary today. blm Mar 2015 #6
I believe she sceduled the presser and then the GOP yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #101
exactly mercuryblues Mar 2015 #103
Isn't she speaking before the UN? randome Mar 2015 #2
Google is your friend. There's many, many links riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #12
So it's not the UN, as I saw elsewhere. randome Mar 2015 #18
You doubt it will be a distraction??!! riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #25
Oh, boring indeed. What could the press possibly think of to ask her about? Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #70
I don't think they purposely acted so stupidly - Her team is obviously not paying blm Mar 2015 #3
My vote is for ineptitude as well BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #17
agreed. stupid, also self-centered. it's all about Hillary. nt. magical thyme Mar 2015 #94
I am more peeved that it pushed HappyMe Mar 2015 #4
If she gave a schedule speech without mentioning it, it would still shift conversations. boston bean Mar 2015 #5
agree riversedge Mar 2015 #7
She should already have addressed this. HappyMe Mar 2015 #8
Clearly, the bigger portion of the nation sees the priority Sheepshank Mar 2015 #15
I have a feeling that this presser HappyMe Mar 2015 #20
SORRY...just not buying into this particular outrage Sheepshank Mar 2015 #43
I don't give a crap about her emails. HappyMe Mar 2015 #46
yeah...the hair on fire thing.... Sheepshank Mar 2015 #54
Baloney - This morning was ALL ABOUT the GOP letter and the headlines blm Mar 2015 #61
The hair on fire thing is my siggy line. HappyMe Mar 2015 #62
So, addressing the Republican 'molehill' is more necessary than letting GOP get blm Mar 2015 #55
The media doesn't need HRC to ignore a GOP miscalculation in protocal Sheepshank Mar 2015 #65
Try reading - the TOP STORY across networks this AM was GOP letter. blm Mar 2015 #73
What the fuck are you talking about? OilemFirchen Mar 2015 #90
I watched the AM programs and GOP letter backlash was top story from 8-9. blm Mar 2015 #92
noble media has the attention of gnat....or it willfull misdirection with a RW agenda to maintain Sheepshank Mar 2015 #95
Turn on the news outlets - HRC email presser replaced GOP traitor as lead story. blm Mar 2015 #30
oh FFS....the media will focus and shape opinion on any story Sheepshank Mar 2015 #59
No - they were NOT. The networks were giving it FULL COVERAGE at 8AM. blm Mar 2015 #63
nope...still not buying it...the media has it's own agenda Sheepshank Mar 2015 #93
Why hand over an excuse on a silver platter? blm Mar 2015 #96
I'm not buying it because you are insisting that the media doesn't have it's own agenda Sheepshank Mar 2015 #97
Horsepoo - I have been here for over a decade pointing out corpmedia bias. blm Mar 2015 #99
LOL DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #72
Perhaps the former SoS can address the GOP Iran letter fiasco as well. think Mar 2015 #9
She was invited to sign it, and has said nothing so far. leveymg Mar 2015 #11
WTF DU. Agschmid Mar 2015 #14
Theatre Of The Absurd..... global1 Mar 2015 #29
I loved Elizabeth Warren's comment on the letter.... Spazito Mar 2015 #69
I have serious concerns about Warren on foreign policy issues. n/t leveymg Mar 2015 #74
I think she is a stellar Senator... Spazito Mar 2015 #77
I agree on that. n/t leveymg Mar 2015 #82
A fucking republican looney "invites" anyone to join them, and you make an inductive leap that still_one Mar 2015 #87
Gee, Elizabeth Warren has commented yet, does that mean she is complicit also? still_one Mar 2015 #88
Her statement today is at the UN - If she says nothing about the letter, what message does that send leveymg Mar 2015 #91
Why acknowledge bullshit? Kerry hasn't responded for the same reason. Senator still_one Mar 2015 #98
If She Uses The Presser On Her E-Mail Activity To Comment And Damn The Repugs On Their Letter As A.. global1 Mar 2015 #16
you have to understand her M.O. Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #10
+1 it's not like this is her first rodeo Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #19
The Joe Lieberman wing of the Clinton campaign? blm Mar 2015 #23
Yeah, it's a head scratcher??? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #45
If your theory is true Treasongate will bury E-mailgate in the news and everybody will be happy, no? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #41
close but not quite Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #47
I don't think so, and they had already announced this was going to happen in advance dissentient Mar 2015 #13
Yes, I would be questioning her motives... android fan Mar 2015 #21
The Lead Story On Andrea Mitchell's Show Today Is Hillary Clinton's Presser And Not..... global1 Mar 2015 #38
The lead story on NBC's Today show was not the 47 traitors either. JDDavis Mar 2015 #64
First she gets crucified for not saying anything. Now she is getting crucified for saying something. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #22
It IS the timing. If it wasn't NECESSARY for her to have a presser yesterday, then blm Mar 2015 #26
She has the RNC shook DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #33
The intensity wasn't there THIS MORNING. Where is the AGILITY? blm Mar 2015 #35
Not you, but the HRC bashing and the constant questioning of her motives makes me ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #39
Yes…but NOT TODAY!!! blm Mar 2015 #40
I don't see anybody giving a shit about this in a week AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #24
I applaud your naivete Android3.14 Mar 2015 #31
The primaries haven't even started yet AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #34
Nobody that matters? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #52
It's okay if she takes the opportunity to support the President's diplomacy and condemn the 47 leveymg Mar 2015 #27
Either intentional timing or not, it is a bad idea Android3.14 Mar 2015 #28
I think it is sad that the US Infortainment Media can not chew gum and walk at the same time. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #32
And THEN this mornings HEADLINES and news stories were about GOP TRAITORS. blm Mar 2015 #37
Isn't it ultimately her decision to do the presser or not? HappyMe Mar 2015 #42
I've seen at least a dozen calls here for her to explain to the public her choice of email provider. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #50
The presser just replaced the GOP Traitor story. blm Mar 2015 #53
I think those who disagree with Hillary Clinton Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #60
Meh Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #36
The racist fraternity story is getting a lot of air time too because it's easy to understand ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #49
Well, then, her judgment is even better on the timing. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #68
What is better? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #79
Rand2016. blm Mar 2015 #80
Condemnation of the letter won't last anyway Blue_Adept Mar 2015 #44
She has friends to protect krawhitham Mar 2015 #48
Who has a TV............ the question is airtime Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #51
8AM top story was GOP Traitors. 11AM top story emails….AGAIN. blm Mar 2015 #66
so all the channels are playing from the same script as usual? Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #76
Nope. Point being there was major traction on THIS story and it LOST traction blm Mar 2015 #78
ok got it Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #81
EXACTLY! blm Mar 2015 #83
If the press conference was already scheduled, she should USE IT to condemn the sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #56
Hillary's obsession with herself and her ambitions are unrivaled. However, ... Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #57
Yesterday the problem was she hadn't addressed the email issue BainsBane Mar 2015 #58
+1 of all the nonsensical things I have read at this site Hekate Mar 2015 #89
Oh my gawd a lets complain about Hillary thread... giftedgirl77 Mar 2015 #67
But it must be done! freshwest Mar 2015 #104
Hey fresh, did you see this garbage? giftedgirl77 Mar 2015 #105
Nice to see the concern and advice. And Obama's hair is turning white. He should fix that, too! freshwest Mar 2015 #107
Yes, that's what I said but a lot less friendly... giftedgirl77 Mar 2015 #108
I know it is tough for many people to deal with more than one news story, but the still_one Mar 2015 #71
It's not US who can't deal with it, it's CORPMEDIA. blm Mar 2015 #75
Is she gonna wag her finger at us and tell us she did not have emails with that server? tularetom Mar 2015 #84
Really? You have no clue what she is going to say or not say, address one issue or many... Hekate Mar 2015 #85
I'll feel a bit better about it if she makes it a part of her speech. That the MSM will be watching libdem4life Mar 2015 #86
Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. Vinca Mar 2015 #100
Another Duer on Hillary outrage! leftofcool Mar 2015 #102
Kids, don't do drugs. randome Mar 2015 #110
The timing was unfortunate. Knocked the 47 traitors off the front page. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #106
Gee, I guess the doom and gloom prophecy that the Iran letter outrage would be knocked off the front still_one Mar 2015 #109

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
1. OMG, will she speak?, when will she speak?, she really needs to speak, she caves in and speaks
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:13 AM
Mar 2015

and now she shouldn't speak.

WTF????

blm

(113,055 posts)
6. She shouldn't. Not today. If it wasn't necessary yesterday, it's not necessary today.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:20 AM
Mar 2015

Her camp could have seen the frontpages and backlash against the GOP and said, "let's give it another day or two."

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
101. I believe she sceduled the presser and then the GOP
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:44 PM
Mar 2015

Story grew. I highly doubt she did this on purpose. The timing just fell out that way. Actually Palin is taking credit for Hillary blinking.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
103. exactly
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 02:01 PM
Mar 2015

My 1st thought when I read the headline. It almost seems as if people can not fathom that others can focus on 2 different thing.

1/ Hillary
2/ republiscum.

I mean she could quite possibly link the two by saying we have seen this week what the republicans will resort to, to smear and degrade a democrat. Why should the lies they are saying about my e-mail be any different. You all do remember the Christmas card list congressional investigation.

* drop mike and walk off stage

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. Isn't she speaking before the UN?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:15 AM
Mar 2015

How about one of you provide a link to the actual presser announcement instead of posting the same hair-on-fire threads?
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randome

(34,845 posts)
18. So it's not the UN, as I saw elsewhere.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:33 AM
Mar 2015

And I agree, she should have rescheduled. But I doubt it's going to be much of a distraction. Probably boring.
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It might rain and it might not.
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riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
25. You doubt it will be a distraction??!!
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:47 AM
Mar 2015

i want what your smoking.

And yes, she's giving a speech to the UN followed by the press conference.

blm

(113,055 posts)
3. I don't think they purposely acted so stupidly - Her team is obviously not paying
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:17 AM
Mar 2015

attention to any story BUT the ones involving her and are not acting with any agility on this one.

They didn't HAVE to do this press show today.

They are acting stupidly and deserve to be replaced, but, I doubt they are doing it maliciously.

Still - it leaves the thought out there. Perhaps some of the neocons in Clinton camp don't want the Iran deal, either…..the Joe Lieberman wing of the Clinton campaign.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
17. My vote is for ineptitude as well
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:33 AM
Mar 2015

In addition to which, the substance of whatever she says will be promptly ignored by the GOP and their MSM note-takers. The only way this won't be a pointless exercise is if she stumbles. Inept.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
4. I am more peeved that it pushed
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:18 AM
Mar 2015

the letter to the side than anything. That letter undermines the work the President and Kerry are trying to do. That's far more important than Clinton and 2016.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
5. If she gave a schedule speech without mentioning it, it would still shift conversations.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:20 AM
Mar 2015

Geezus, you are the folks that demanded she address this. Maybe you all shouldn't have done that.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
8. She should already have addressed this.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:22 AM
Mar 2015

Just because Clinton gives a speech somewhere, it shouldn't take precedence over the business of the country at hand.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
15. Clearly, the bigger portion of the nation sees the priority
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:29 AM
Mar 2015

47 Senators and the letter giving Iran the go ahead to mass produce nuclear weapons = big deal

HRC and other GOP'ers used private servers and private email = legal and *meh*

It's only the "Benghazi" crowd that will attempt to deflect anythig from the 47 idiots, and they would have picked any excuse regardless of any HRC presentation.

If anything the 47 have deflected the focus from HRC right onto themselves.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
20. I have a feeling that this presser
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:43 AM
Mar 2015

will shove the Iran thing out of the spotlight. The emails dominated the news before. They will be again, unfortunately right when we had the republicans by the short hairs. She should have rescheduled.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
43. SORRY...just not buying into this particular outrage
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:11 PM
Mar 2015

it seems almost as contrived as the whole Republican mountain out of a mole hill, email outrage.

your avatar seems quite appropriate in this case.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
46. I don't give a crap about her emails.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:15 PM
Mar 2015

It was a fooliish thing to do, no matter who does it.

I'm more concerned about the Iran stuff, not 2016 or Clinton.

I don't quite get the avatar thing.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
54. yeah...the hair on fire thing....
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:23 PM
Mar 2015

the media will do what it wants to do. It doesn't need HRC as an excuse to ignore the 47 traitorous Senators. The RW media will clearly ignore anything they want while trying to shape public opinion.

The assumption that the media would have focied on what is important to the DEMS except that the email-gate issue came up, is ludicrous.

blm

(113,055 posts)
61. Baloney - This morning was ALL ABOUT the GOP letter and the headlines
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:27 PM
Mar 2015

nailing them for being traitors.

At 8 AM that was the LEAD STORY.

What was the lead at 11 AM?

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
62. The hair on fire thing is my siggy line.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:28 PM
Mar 2015

I don't watch RW media, so that's moot.

I think it's a huge blunder on Clinton's part to yammer on about emails, when we have the republicans in a tight spot.

blm

(113,055 posts)
55. So, addressing the Republican 'molehill' is more necessary than letting GOP get
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:25 PM
Mar 2015

the headlines and news reporting they deserve for their treason?

OK - no big deal then that HRC's campaign made the decision to have this presser addressing the molehill that is already replacing the GOP treason in the TOP of TODAY'S news cycle.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
65. The media doesn't need HRC to ignore a GOP miscalculation in protocal
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:30 PM
Mar 2015

the RW media will ignore any story they want to if it it helps shape public opinion in the direction they feel appropriate.

I can't believe you feel that HRC email story is the real reason the media is ignoring the 47 Senators letter story.

sheesh.

blm

(113,055 posts)
73. Try reading - the TOP STORY across networks this AM was GOP letter.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:34 PM
Mar 2015

They weren't IGNORING the story - they were finally RUNNING with it. That changed immediately when this stupid presser for the non story, non scandal emails was announced.

Why are you insisting none of the media was talking about the GOP letter? They are - at LONG LAST they were calling out the GOP for their traitorous behavior.

THEN what happened?

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
90. What the fuck are you talking about?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:57 PM
Mar 2015

The top story at CNN, HLN and MSNBC is about racists at OU.

"Try reading".

blm

(113,055 posts)
92. I watched the AM programs and GOP letter backlash was top story from 8-9.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:10 PM
Mar 2015

The fraternity story was a top story, too. The top POLITICAL story was backlash against GOP and holding up Daily News' TRAITOR headline. It was replaced immediately by Clinton camp's announcement of a presser.

That may be smart campaign decision to you, but, not to me.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
95. noble media has the attention of gnat....or it willfull misdirection with a RW agenda to maintain
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:15 PM
Mar 2015

you clearly think it's the former...I believe its the latter.

blm

(113,055 posts)
30. Turn on the news outlets - HRC email presser replaced GOP traitor as lead story.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:51 AM
Mar 2015

Her campaign 'strategists' are uber-stupid.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
59. oh FFS....the media will focus and shape opinion on any story
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:27 PM
Mar 2015

other than the 47 Senators.

They don't need HRC's help to divert attention, they are ignoring the entire letter to Iran story anyway. Look at Yahoo...not even a tiny little blip of the controversy. They are not trying to lessen the impact of the story, they are completely ignoring it.

blm

(113,055 posts)
63. No - they were NOT. The networks were giving it FULL COVERAGE at 8AM.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:29 PM
Mar 2015

What changed that had it pushed aside by 11AM?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
93. nope...still not buying it...the media has it's own agenda
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:11 PM
Mar 2015

and will ignore what they want to ignore.

blm

(113,055 posts)
96. Why hand over an excuse on a silver platter?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:15 PM
Mar 2015

You need to pretend they weren't covering the GOP letter in the first place. They were - they FINALLY were.

It was a moment - one that was EASILY REPLACED by the presser announcement.

Why make it so easy for them?

You won't buy it because you don't WANT to admit the timing was just not good.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
97. I'm not buying it because you are insisting that the media doesn't have it's own agenda
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:18 PM
Mar 2015

the media will ignore what it wants to ignore......even more, the media will promote it's own agenda by deciding when and how it wants to ignore a story.

blm

(113,055 posts)
99. Horsepoo - I have been here for over a decade pointing out corpmedia bias.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:26 PM
Mar 2015

There is NEVER a good excuse for handing them an opportunity like this on a silver platter.

If you want to claim that Clinton campaign was smart to choose this morning to make an announcement, then have the forthrightness to say so.

My claim is that the campaign was stupid to make that announcement this morning when the GOP letter was GAINING TRACTION.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
72. LOL
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:34 PM
Mar 2015

And if she didn't announce she was taking questions they would ask her to take more question when reporters knew she was taking them so they could be there...


As it is I saw some RNC clown bray that there are not enough credentialed reporters at the U N.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
11. She was invited to sign it, and has said nothing so far.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:25 AM
Mar 2015
See: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/tom-cotton-2016-presidential-candidates-iran-letter/

Washington (CNN)Sen. Tom Cotton said Tuesday he'd "welcome" presidential candidates to join the 47 Senate Republicans who signed a controversial letter to Iran warning the country's leaders that a lasting nuclear deal would have to be approved by Congress.

And Cotton said he would welcome "even Hillary Clinton," the presumptive Democratic presidential frontrunner, to join the effort.

"I suspect she might have reservations about this ill-fated nuclear deal with Iran as well," Cotton said on CNN's New Day.

Several potential GOP presidential candidates have already signed onto the letter. Sens. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham are among the 46 Republicans who signed onto Cotton's letter "to the Leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran."

President Barack Obama slammed the letter on Monday, accusing the GOP of making "common cause with the hard-liners in Iran" by attempting to undercut ongoing negotiations that face a first deadline for a framework agreement at the end of the month.


If she doesn't speak out against the 47, she's complicit with the bipartisan war party. Again.

global1

(25,245 posts)
29. Theatre Of The Absurd.....
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:50 AM
Mar 2015

You got to be kidding. He really asked her to sign on to this letter?

Spazito

(50,331 posts)
69. I loved Elizabeth Warren's comment on the letter....
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:32 PM
Mar 2015

Oh, wait, oops, there were no comments as of yet.

Would this:

"If she doesn't speak out against the 47, she's complicit with the bipartisan war party. Again."

apply to Elizabeth Warren as well?

Spazito

(50,331 posts)
77. I think she is a stellar Senator...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:38 PM
Mar 2015

she has a laser focus on Wall Street with the expertise to speak about it. I am glad she has wisely decided to bypass a run to become the Democratic candidate for the Presidency as her work in the Senate is very, very important, imo.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
87. A fucking republican looney "invites" anyone to join them, and you make an inductive leap that
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:56 PM
Mar 2015

somehow she is complicit because she hasn't immediately commented on the jackass Tom Cotton and his other crazies as somehow wanting to compromise on this issue with them.

Gee, Senator Elizabeth Warren hasn't commented yet on the letter, does that mean she is complicit also? However, Bernie Sanders did. No surprise there. A lot of Democratic Senators have yet to make comments, but there is no doubt in my mind they feel strongly against the republican vomit expressed in that letter.

Maybe your hatred of Hillary has blinded you so much, that you instead of being critical of legitimate disagreements with Hillary, such as her vote on the IWR or Patriot Act, you have to grasp at bullshit.

There is not ONE Democrat who agrees with this letter, INCLUDING Hillary. Everyday some shit is said about President Obama that is outrageous, dishonest, and disgusting, and guess, what, he seldom comments on the crazy talk unless the press asks him.



leveymg

(36,418 posts)
91. Her statement today is at the UN - If she says nothing about the letter, what message does that send
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:02 PM
Mar 2015

to the world? She will be messaging that she doesn't support diplomacy with Iran, and as President, she will pursue a non-negotiated approach.

That's why she has to clearly stand today against the letter and the 47, and has to take this opportunity at the UN to speak out on it.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
98. Why acknowledge bullshit? Kerry hasn't responded for the same reason. Senator
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:25 PM
Mar 2015

Warren has been making speeches after this broke, and hasn't mentioned anything

Your interpretation is because she doesn't respond to a letter that has no basis in fact or law means she is complicit does not follow a logical thought sequence. In fact it would detract from the negotiations going on right now with Iran, where the focus would no longer be the negotiations, but giving credibility to a letter that was a bunch of lies

She will comment along with Kerry when the time is right

global1

(25,245 posts)
16. If She Uses The Presser On Her E-Mail Activity To Comment And Damn The Repugs On Their Letter As A..
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:30 AM
Mar 2015

former Sec. of State that has been involved with such negotiations - then I would commend her. Maybe this was the only way for her to let her have her say on that letter.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
10. you have to understand her M.O.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:23 AM
Mar 2015

bad news for Hillary gets released at times when it gets drowned out by some other media event - she's been famous for her 24-hour media management since her Arkansas days.

Note the email story first hit the wires in the middle of the Netanyahu kerfluffle - most definitely not a coincidence. Nothing ever gets resolved with Hillary, they just get passed up by other events.

Pulling the usual shenanigans with press credentials shows that this is quite deliberate on the part of the Clinton warcamp.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
19. +1 it's not like this is her first rodeo
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:38 AM
Mar 2015

We can't overlook how tone deaf her speech appears.

In the midst of the republican Iranian "scandal",
which buried her email "scandal", she decides to go
front and center putting her "scandal" on the front burner???

Either she has incompetent tacticians, or is running interference?
Seriously

blm

(113,055 posts)
23. The Joe Lieberman wing of the Clinton campaign?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:45 AM
Mar 2015

I hope not.

I prefer to see this as pure incompetence on the part of her 'strategists' who now deserve to be FIRED!

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
45. Yeah, it's a head scratcher???
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:15 PM
Mar 2015

If Hillary was a newbie it would be understandable.

But a well seasoned political veteran
doesn't make these kinds of rookie mistakes.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
47. close but not quite
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:16 PM
Mar 2015

The way the script goes, she lets her story become the second story in the media cycle, and by the time people circle back to it, it's "old news"; claims of issues being resolved will be steadfastly and consistently made, regardless of whether that has any correlation to the truth.

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
13. I don't think so, and they had already announced this was going to happen in advance
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:25 AM
Mar 2015

a day or two back. I'm interested to see the press conference, there will always be some other news event taking place every day.

If you say "Hillary is grabbing the limelight!" that seems kind of a weak complaint.

 

android fan

(214 posts)
21. Yes, I would be questioning her motives...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:43 AM
Mar 2015

Trying to take the heat off the Republicans?

That's a big no-no from me. Clinton should use the presser to announce that she is not running for President, so speculation can be continued elsewhere.

If she was smart, she would forget the presser and do the U.N. speech so Republicans can continue to be roasted on a daily basis until they hand their resignations and answer for the Logan Act charges...

global1

(25,245 posts)
38. The Lead Story On Andrea Mitchell's Show Today Is Hillary Clinton's Presser And Not.....
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:04 PM
Mar 2015

the borderline treasonous letter 47 Repug senators sent to Iran to sabotage the negotiations.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
64. The lead story on NBC's Today show was not the 47 traitors either.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:29 PM
Mar 2015

That came in as the fourth story, after the S. Korean Ambassador's recovery, the racist fraternity in OK, and Hillary's email.

Story number 4 was the 47 treason story, which did NOT use the T word nor the Logan Act.

NBC's Chuck Toad was mansplaining to Today show viewers that Hillary's email is important.

The letter to Iran was a 3 sentence story.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. First she gets crucified for not saying anything. Now she is getting crucified for saying something.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:45 AM
Mar 2015

Oh, it's the timing...

blm

(113,055 posts)
26. It IS the timing. If it wasn't NECESSARY for her to have a presser yesterday, then
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:49 AM
Mar 2015

it wasn't NECESSARY for her to have a presser today.

It's her campaign strategists that made this call, and they are WRONG. There is nothing evil about calling the strategists on THEIR stupidity. She'll win in 2016, but, this move is going to make it harder for OTHER Democrats on the ticket opposing the letter-signers.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
33. She has the RNC shook
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:53 AM
Mar 2015

I'm watching CNN and a GOP mouthpiece said he disapproves of the venue (the U.N.) for HRC's presser because there aren't enough credentialed reporters who will be there.

IMHO, Senators Feinstein and Durbin forced her hands with their remarks which allowed the press to suggest the intense interest is bipartisan.

blm

(113,055 posts)
35. The intensity wasn't there THIS MORNING. Where is the AGILITY?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:59 AM
Mar 2015

The urgent need to address it IMMEDIATELY wasn't there yesterday, and it was definitely not there this morning.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
39. Not you, but the HRC bashing and the constant questioning of her motives makes me ...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:06 PM
Mar 2015

Not you, but the HRC bashing and the constant questioning of her motives makes me alternatively apoplectic and sad.

She is getting up hit from all sides and must feel the need to address the issue.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
24. I don't see anybody giving a shit about this in a week
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:46 AM
Mar 2015

With the exception of Hannity and co, and nobody cares what they think.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
31. I applaud your naivete
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:52 AM
Mar 2015

This email bit is going to dog her all the way to November of '16. This email scandal is the little albatross around the neck of the bigger albatross around the neck of the Democratic Party.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
34. The primaries haven't even started yet
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:56 AM
Mar 2015

...and the public reaction thus far has been, 'Yawn'.

Nobody that matters cares.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
52. Nobody that matters?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:21 PM
Mar 2015

So this isn't red meat to right-wing voters?
This "scandal" won't mobilize repub voters?
They won't use this to raise donations?


Democratic "scandals" do more to energize right-wingers
than any glad-handing by their candidates.
Those "nobody's" vote.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. It's okay if she takes the opportunity to support the President's diplomacy and condemn the 47
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:49 AM
Mar 2015

As former Secretary of State, she is almost duty bound to do that in the most unambiguous way possible. If she doesn't, she will rightly be viewed as a self-serving Neocon pol, and not worthy of her party's nomination. We will see.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
28. Either intentional timing or not, it is a bad idea
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:49 AM
Mar 2015

If she is trying to retain the shit-stained limelight, she has succeeded at the cost of undermining our President. If she did this unintentionally, then that is a strong indication she lacks the competency to be President.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
32. I think it is sad that the US Infortainment Media can not chew gum and walk at the same time.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:53 AM
Mar 2015

Many high profile people have been calling for her to make a statement on the email story.

blm

(113,055 posts)
37. And THEN this mornings HEADLINES and news stories were about GOP TRAITORS.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:02 PM
Mar 2015

Her campaign strategists should be fired for sticking with their announcement of a presser today.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
50. I've seen at least a dozen calls here for her to explain to the public her choice of email provider.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:19 PM
Mar 2015

Now, I see complaints that she is going to explain her choice of email provider.

blm

(113,055 posts)
53. The presser just replaced the GOP Traitor story.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:22 PM
Mar 2015

No one is saying she shouldn't address it. But she didn't have to do it TODAY OF ALL DAYS!!!

Her strategist team screwed up and there is way to pretend otherwise.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
60. I think those who disagree with Hillary Clinton
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:27 PM
Mar 2015

would find fault with any decision.

I think she should have done it much sooner.

Republicans are so good at doing ridiculous things it would be some other story.

As long as we are in negotiations with Iran, the story of their letter will not go away.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
36. Meh
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:01 PM
Mar 2015

She probably should have taken it head on sooner, but the longer she waited without saying anything, the worse it was going to get for her, with ever more speculation swirling around. I think we've got enough new cycle for people to pay attention to the Iran letter as well. Choosing to do a presser is NOT one of the things I would suggest makes anyone 'question her judgment as to being President'.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
49. The racist fraternity story is getting a lot of air time too because it's easy to understand ...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:18 PM
Mar 2015

The racist fraternity story is getting a lot of air time too because it's easy to understand and touches on America's original sin.

Plus it's a story where the bad and good guys are clearly defined with almost everybody , from left to right, lining up on the side of the good guys.


There's nothing more American than a public shaming.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
68. Well, then, her judgment is even better on the timing.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:31 PM
Mar 2015

Because it makes it more of a 'Friday afternoon newsdump' sort of thing. Iran is going to be whatever Iran is going to be, and whatever the American public thinks of it really isn't going to make diddly squat change to the situation. So if anything, to me, this is a good judgment call for her.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
44. Condemnation of the letter won't last anyway
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:12 PM
Mar 2015

No matter how upset people are over it. It's not what the media wants to cover. They'd run with it for a day and move on to something else no matter what.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
51. Who has a TV............ the question is airtime
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:19 PM
Mar 2015

what are the mega media snooze tv channels putting up as their top stories............ and talking about the most?

I wouldn't know since I don't have one but its important on how they play with the news.

blm

(113,055 posts)
78. Nope. Point being there was major traction on THIS story and it LOST traction
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:39 PM
Mar 2015

quickly because everyone is now breathlessly reporting on the emails again after the announcement that there would be a presser.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
81. ok got it
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:43 PM
Mar 2015

the evening news will be next thing to flip through.....to see what's being played as important to the constitution vs hilary's press conference.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
56. If the press conference was already scheduled, she should USE IT to condemn the
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:25 PM
Mar 2015

actions of the treasonous 47 morons who embarrassed this country by working for a Foreign Leader, demonstrating they are not familiar with Domestic and International Law, and had to be schooled in both by the Iranian FM.

What an opportunity, especially at the UN.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
57. Hillary's obsession with herself and her ambitions are unrivaled. However, ...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:25 PM
Mar 2015

...human beings are quite capable of focusing on more than one thought at a time. The hideous judgment shown by the Senate Republicans will not fade away simply because Hillary is getting some face time.

And, Hillary's face time will be increasing steadily as we slowly march toward the primaries.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
58. Yesterday the problem was she hadn't addressed the email issue
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:26 PM
Mar 2015

Now today it's another story. Let's be honest. Like many here, your problem with Hillary Clinton is that she exists. No one takes any of these contorted justifications seriously. You get high fives from people who share your contempt for her, and that's it. This is all mere pretext for opposing a potential--not even declared--Democratic candidate. What's particularly troubling is that you all devote all of your energy to opposing one woman, while you advocate FOR nothing.

Then there is the fact you actually consider the cable news cycle an issue. This is yet another example of how much of the conversation on this site has nothing to do with the lives and concerns of average Americans, who care about where their next paycheck is coming from and how to pay the energy and medical bills, not what's on cable news.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
89. +1 of all the nonsensical things I have read at this site
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:57 PM
Mar 2015

Well I'd say it takes the cake, but that's already been eaten and another is baking.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
107. Nice to see the concern and advice. And Obama's hair is turning white. He should fix that, too!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:34 AM
Mar 2015

I mean, hey, she was only at the United Nations to talk about what was really of importance, the nuclear deal, so I thought. Silly me.

Because the 5 members of the Nuclear Club need to know the USA will keep its word on the NPT:

The treaty recognizes five states as nuclear-weapon states: the United States, Russia, the United Kingdom, France, and China (also the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty

Of course her apperance on television is of more importance than possible nuclear Armeggedon! By all means, Ms. Clinton, get your hair done between gigs. It's not like you ladies got anything else to do but sit around and look purty!



still_one

(92,190 posts)
71. I know it is tough for many people to deal with more than one news story, but the
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:33 PM
Mar 2015

garbage open letter to Iran, is still being presented in the news, and talked about. In fact Biden's statement, along with others is keeping it alive

blm

(113,055 posts)
75. It's not US who can't deal with it, it's CORPMEDIA.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:36 PM
Mar 2015

Presser pushed TRAITOR story down in corpmedia's rotation.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
84. Is she gonna wag her finger at us and tell us she did not have emails with that server?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:47 PM
Mar 2015

Already I'm getting Clinton Drama Fatigue and she hasn't even announced that she's a candidate.

She likes "hard choices"? She should make one right now and stand up for the President's right to engage in diplomacy instead of sitting there like a bump on a log and giving the impression that she agrees with the 47 assholes who are attempting to undercut him.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
85. Really? You have no clue what she is going to say or not say, address one issue or many...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:52 PM
Mar 2015

I mean really

You have no clue, nor do all the happy people in this thread who imagine they can read her mind or imagine they have an advance copy of her prepared remarks, or know what the assembled press is going to ask her.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
86. I'll feel a bit better about it if she makes it a part of her speech. That the MSM will be watching
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 12:53 PM
Mar 2015

and reporting on. I'm not so sure they would have ever made it front and center with any kind of outrage in any case. These are Republican Senators...after all.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
110. Kids, don't do drugs.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:03 AM
Mar 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

still_one

(92,190 posts)
109. Gee, I guess the doom and gloom prophecy that the Iran letter outrage would be knocked off the front
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:59 AM
Mar 2015

page isn't actually happening, because Hillary talked about her emails yesterday. In fact just the opposite. Not only is the written media exposing it, but it was all over the television. For those that didn't give Hillary a chance to weigh in on this, and some actually assumed she agreed with Cotton on this, that assessment has proven to be wrong also.

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