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ashling

(25,771 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:05 PM Mar 2015

America dumbs down

http://www.macleans.ca/politics/america-dumbs-down/

The U.S. is being overrun by a wave of anti-science, anti-intellectual thinking. Has the most powerful nation on Earth lost its mind?



If the rise in uninformed opinion was limited to impenetrable subjects that would be one thing, but the scourge seems to be spreading. Everywhere you look these days, America is in a rush to embrace the stupid. Hell-bent on a path that’s not just irrational, but often self-destructive. Common-sense solutions to pressing problems are eschewed in favour of bumper-sticker simplicities and blind faith.


If ignorance is contagious, it’s high time to put the United States in quarantine.


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America dumbs down (Original Post) ashling Mar 2015 OP
they are about to shoot off their naughty parts spanone Mar 2015 #1
Well, that would fix one problem awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #5
Stop it! I can't afford a new monitor. Now there is coffee spew all over this one! leftofcool Mar 2015 #27
Trending - ashling Mar 2015 #33
... handmade34 Mar 2015 #2
That is exactly how people act now. They cannot think... ffr Mar 2015 #15
Reducing the populace to imbecility by hifiguy Mar 2015 #3
Good article... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #6
Reminds me of this one jakeXT Mar 2015 #8
Definitely gonna read that one. hifiguy Mar 2015 #9
They would take us back, way back. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #29
Fox News: Proudly telling easily scared white people what to think since 1996! Initech Mar 2015 #4
In today's economy J.O.B. is kairos12 Mar 2015 #7
Watch the movie "Idiocracy" if you want one of the accurate peeks into our future. world wide wally Mar 2015 #10
not too many years from now they will think it's a documentary... spanone Mar 2015 #18
I believe that's considered a documentary now mountain grammy Mar 2015 #20
On Michael Moore's old show TV Nation, KamaAina Mar 2015 #11
If the Canadians are smart they will hifiguy Mar 2015 #12
Stephen Harper is Canada's answer to George W. Bush guillaumeb Mar 2015 #26
Mostly cuz education has gone down and religion has gone up d_legendary1 Mar 2015 #13
The bacon won't cook itself jakeXT Mar 2015 #14
IASIP: Science is a liar sometimes. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #16
We can most certainly add the "Rotten To The Core" rewritin' history to that OP. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #17
Some humans are enamored with death. They get a rush from the power of a death machine. Rex Mar 2015 #19
That photo is screwed up on a couple of levels. They gotta be fellow Texans. marble falls Mar 2015 #21
Romulus, MI metalbot Mar 2015 #24
Jeez. Texas spread to Michigan. You all got this Texan's apology! marble falls Mar 2015 #25
Yes, also the glove looks like U. of Michigan. goldent Mar 2015 #30
it's good to note the spread but not to slam the whole country over it. uhnope Mar 2015 #22
The funny thing is, the dummies don't know their dumb. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #23
That is one of the great logical paradoxes. hifiguy Mar 2015 #28
Dunning-Kruger effect. Igel Mar 2015 #32
Don't buy it goldent Mar 2015 #31

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
2. ...
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:25 PM
Mar 2015

“We don’t educate people anymore. We train them to get jobs.”


another good read

http://aeon.co/magazine/philosophy/intellectual-character-of-conspiracy-theorists/?utm_source=Aeon+newsletter&utm_campaign=4c3325037a-Daily_newsletter_March_13_20153_13_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_411a82e59d-4c3325037a-68622033

"...the aims of education should include cultivating intellectual virtues and curtailing intellectual vices..."

What if Oliver is too far gone and can’t change his ways even if he wanted to? Like other bad habits, intellectual bad habits can be too deeply entrenched to change. This means living with their consequences. Trying to reason with people who are obstinately closed-minded, dogmatic or prejudiced is unlikely to be effective. The only remedy in such cases is to try to mitigate the harm their vices do to themselves and to others.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
15. That is exactly how people act now. They cannot think...
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:33 PM
Mar 2015

Explain something to them and if they're able to repeat it, that in and of itself is a miracle. But if what they are exposed to in any way deviates from what they were taught, they're left drooling with mouths wide open.


 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. Reducing the populace to imbecility by
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 03:46 PM
Mar 2015

rolling back everything since the Enlightenment, and possibly even the Renaissance, has been a decades-long goal of the American Right. Read this and shake in your boots. I did.

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/01/its_worse_than_scott_walker_and_ted_cruz_secrets_of_conservatives_decades_long_war_on_truth/

Jebus plus feudalism.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
6. Good article...
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:00 PM
Mar 2015

and spot on. I cannot believe what has happened in this country in the 47 years of my life.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
8. Reminds me of this one
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:08 PM
Mar 2015
The result has been a major reversal of the capitalist reforms dating back to FDR in the 1930s and to Theodore Roosevelt before him. Instead we have seen restored the disparities of wealth and income that characterized the “gilded age” of the late 19th century. I am not arguing that these unhealthy and dysfunctional disparities were consciously intended. On the contrary I argue elsewhere that it was an overreaction arising from the anxieties of the very wealthy in the 1960s and 1970s, an anxiety urgently shared by elements in the deep state, that control of the country was slipping away from them.43

http://japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/4206
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. Definitely gonna read that one.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:22 PM
Mar 2015

Thanks for the link!

ETA - I think I read a book about the RFK assassination by this guy. He's good.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. On Michael Moore's old show TV Nation,
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:27 PM
Mar 2015

he stood at the border with a sign and yelling "Free guns for Canadians!"

There were no takers.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. If the Canadians are smart they will
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

start building a wall at the border to contain American stupidity right where it is. I am sure most Canuckistanis want no part of it.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
26. Stephen Harper is Canada's answer to George W. Bush
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:24 PM
Mar 2015

Just as divisive, and a born-again oil man as well.
By the way, Alberta is as full of oil and idiots as Texas. That is why Daddy Cruz moved with his idiot son Ted from Alberta to Texas.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
13. Mostly cuz education has gone down and religion has gone up
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

Can't reason with someone who follows through with blind faith.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Some humans are enamored with death. They get a rush from the power of a death machine.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 05:55 PM
Mar 2015

Their death machines become a symbol of their core value - 'I can kill you anytime I want, but I choose not to right now'. Parallels with there other core value - 'fuck you I got mine now eat shit and die'.

I think that is why you find virtually ALL fundamentalist have this kind of mentality. Instead of coping normally with the thought of being powerless and insignificant in the grand scheme of things - they find a false sense of power that radiates from the barrel of a gun.

Are they powerful? Hell ya! They could end your life and that is the ultimate power to them.



metalbot

(1,058 posts)
24. Romulus, MI
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:14 PM
Mar 2015

(If you use chrome, there is a tineye extension that will find the source of most images, and in this case the caption from getty).

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
22. it's good to note the spread but not to slam the whole country over it.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:10 PM
Mar 2015

these kinds of articles are just red meat to pessimists and people who don't want to see that, over the course of history, liberalism has triumphed

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
23. The funny thing is, the dummies don't know their dumb.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:14 PM
Mar 2015

The religious fundies just take it all on faith, but the non religious dummies just point at everyone else and say they're dumb. Look at Bobby Jindal or this Tom Cotten. They're college graduates, so they must know something. How do they have such warped thinking?

I don't think I'll ever get over the shock I feel every time I hear an educated person spouting right wing nonsense. When I was younger and naive, I thought racists and right wingers were just ignorant people and nobody I knew. My dad's sister became a Republican, but they weren't crazy. They just voted for Eisenhower and Nixon. When Kennedy was president, they accepted him and supported him during the Cuban missile crisis. How Republicans have changed, or maybe it was there all the time.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
28. That is one of the great logical paradoxes.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 06:39 PM
Mar 2015

If you're really, truly stupid as a stump, as such a huge percentage of the US populace is, you will never be able to realize it, because it takes a little bit of brains to realize that you just might be stupid, or at least wrong. If you are a stupid fundy, the odds go up by a power of about 10 to the thousandth that there is no way you will ever possess the brains to appreciate your own stupidity.

There is some kind of Unified Field Theory of Stupidity and its Relativity knocking around somewhere in this paradox, I am sure. Maybe I should start working on it.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
32. Dunning-Kruger effect.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:28 PM
Mar 2015

Google it. Wiki has some nice quotes at the end of their appraisal of the effect.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
31. Don't buy it
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:01 PM
Mar 2015

The science "controversies" are mainly issues that involve science but that have entered the political realm. At that point logic is brushed aside, and silly things are said on all sides.

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