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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:54 PM Mar 2015

Bob McCulloch announces he found the shooters!

WTF????? Am I supposed to believe a word that escapes his lips???????

(Re: Ferguson Police shooting - McCulloch has his smarmy mug on TV now saying they found the shooter).

He LIED to the Grand Jury about the Micheal Brown murder and now HE'S the AUTHORITY on what happened 3 nights ago????????

THIS is BEYOND surreal!!!!

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Bob McCulloch announces he found the shooters! (Original Post) Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 OP
I'm out of the loop,as usual----what lie did he tell? I never even heard of him. virgogal Mar 2015 #1
He was the DA in the Darren Wilson/Michael Brown investigation... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #4
Thanks virgogal Mar 2015 #17
As long as a black person is arrested , he doesn't care SummerSnow Mar 2015 #2
Sounds like the guy confessed. nt B2G Mar 2015 #3
Link? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #5
here pintobean Mar 2015 #8
sigh... here: Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #10
Press running with claim he was a protestor when he wasn't….just blm Mar 2015 #24
More plausible that it was a personal dispute and shots mistakenly hit police blm Mar 2015 #6
You're going to tell us what is and isn't plausible? B2G Mar 2015 #14
I didn't assert anything - your brain misread the words 'I think' and 'COULD have been' blm Mar 2015 #15
If the distances I heard about were accurate (120 + yards), razorman Mar 2015 #16
Absolutely needs jail time. blm Mar 2015 #18
Even so, his confession may or may not be the truth. The investigators razorman Mar 2015 #34
Of course it was - that doesn't change the point about McCulloch claiming blm Mar 2015 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Mar 2015 #7
Um... The witnesses he called did: Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Mar 2015 #11
He didn't say he lied in the OP - he said blm Mar 2015 #12
Yeah... I thought that was clear... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #13
Definite uptick of posters choosing to claim that which has not been written blm Mar 2015 #19
You're an old DU pal... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #20
Think about him every day. blm Mar 2015 #21
Mike was the SEED of old SNL... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #22
heheh…. blm Mar 2015 #23
...and was the genus of TDS, Colbert, Letterman... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #25
Colbert was a HUGE fan. blm Mar 2015 #29
Stephen took it to an entirely different level... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #30
heheh….he certainly made his mutation work. blm Mar 2015 #32
If McCulloch told me it was a warm sunny day I would grab my winter coat. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #26
How did he lie to the grand jury? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #27
I'm assuming that the OP means that he allowed lying witnesses to testify to the Grand Jury. Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #28
You have a good point there. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #31
When he read the verdict he made a point of emphasizing the testimony from the blm Mar 2015 #33
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
4. He was the DA in the Darren Wilson/Michael Brown investigation...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:02 PM
Mar 2015

He (and his staff) LIED to the Grand Jury.

Now, he's the face coming out to announce the ID of the shooter that shot at the cops on Thursday... BAD optics, if you work for the municipality.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
10. sigh... here:
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:14 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/15/ferguson-police-shooting-arrest/24808987/

A 20-year-old protester has been charged with shooting two police officers in Ferguson, Mo., last week, authorities said Sunday.

County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch said Jeffrey Williams was charged with two counts of assault in the first degree, one count of firing a weapon from a vehicle, and thee counts of armed criminal action.

McCulloch said Williams admitted firing the shots, but said he was shooting at someone else.

blm

(113,061 posts)
24. Press running with claim he was a protestor when he wasn't….just
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:24 PM
Mar 2015

heard it on NPR, too.

Exactly the frame McCulloch wanted.

blm

(113,061 posts)
6. More plausible that it was a personal dispute and shots mistakenly hit police
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:08 PM
Mar 2015

than the initial assumption that protestors targeted police.

I never bought that assumption because of the distance of the shooter.

We'll see how this pans out. McCulloch gave his version of events the same earnestness with which he read that 'testimony' from the well known crazy lady….. as empirical evidence.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
14. You're going to tell us what is and isn't plausible?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:28 PM
Mar 2015

After your 400+ thread asserting it was the work of a right wing provocateur?

OK.

blm

(113,061 posts)
15. I didn't assert anything - your brain misread the words 'I think' and 'COULD have been'
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:46 PM
Mar 2015

and I clearly linked to many reports and articles why it should be considered a possibility.

Sorry your brain couldn't wrap around the words you rejected.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
16. If the distances I heard about were accurate (120 + yards),
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:46 PM
Mar 2015

that does sound more plausible, considering a pistol was used. Either way, though, the dude needs to do jail time.

blm

(113,061 posts)
18. Absolutely needs jail time.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:56 PM
Mar 2015

It's the Ferguson Attorney pointing at protestors and the media repeating his version that is pissing me off, when the guy confessed he was aiming at one of the protestors.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
34. Even so, his confession may or may not be the truth. The investigators
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:41 PM
Mar 2015

need hard evidence. But, whether he was firing at protestors, or at the officers, it was still attempted murder.

blm

(113,061 posts)
35. Of course it was - that doesn't change the point about McCulloch claiming
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:41 AM
Mar 2015

him to be 'a protestor' when he had no real presence there as a protestor.

Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #9)

blm

(113,061 posts)
12. He didn't say he lied in the OP - he said
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:24 PM
Mar 2015

it would be difficult to believe McCulloch considering the lies he told in past pressers. For instance, the emphasis he gave to the testimony from the crazy lady even though they knew she was not credible and her story was impossible.

blm

(113,061 posts)
19. Definite uptick of posters choosing to claim that which has not been written
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:04 PM
Mar 2015

instead of considering the words and thoughts that actually exist in the post.

blm

(113,061 posts)
21. Think about him every day.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:16 PM
Mar 2015

He was an enormous part of my life.

Howard Stern interviewed Aykroyd a few weeks ago for the 40th SNL anniversary. Aykroyd said if there was a Mt. Rushmore of SNL it would be Michael O'Donoghue (mentioned first), then Chevy, Lorne, and John. Exactly why Lorne still downplays the role of MO'D at every turn. Lorne knows that those who were actually there at the time still regard MO'D as its initial driving force and was the key to its integrity.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
22. Mike was the SEED of old SNL...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:27 PM
Mar 2015

...and of every generation that came after. Maybe they don't recognize it now, but it was HIS vision, HIS irreverence that set the tone.

I like to think I carry a bit of that unique irreverence into every conversation I have with anyone. Wherever you are, Michael, I hope I carry your legacy on by being a snarky pisser! (even though I'm not in the Entertainment Industry)...

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
25. ...and was the genus of TDS, Colbert, Letterman...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:25 PM
Mar 2015

He was the father of irony-as-humor. Mike was THAT guy!!!!

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
30. Stephen took it to an entirely different level...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:09 PM
Mar 2015

...and MASTERED the "damn you... listen to me I'm serious!" shtick that Mr Mike laid that seed for.

blm

(113,061 posts)
32. heheh….he certainly made his mutation work.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:41 PM
Mar 2015

I always wish MO'D could have seen it. Colbert was amazing at the farce.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
28. I'm assuming that the OP means that he allowed lying witnesses to testify to the Grand Jury.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:49 PM
Mar 2015

And based upon the DOJ report, we know that many, many of the witnesses did indeed lie outright.

According to the DoJ report, federal investigators dismissed versions of the Brown-Wilson confrontation provided by 24 separate witnesses, who are identified in the document by a witness number and their respective ages, sex, and race. However, despite that limited information, some of the discredited witnesses are easy to identify. The testimony from these witnesses was alternately branded inconsistent, not credible, unreliable, incoherent, and based on rumor and hearsay.

Federal agents declared that “material portions” of Brown sidekick Dorian Johnson’s account were found to “lack credibility.” Two women who gave a series of media interviews about the shooting--Piaget Crenshaw and Tiffany Mitchell--were deemed unreliable by federal officials. The 19-year-old Crenshaw’s account was “riddled with inconsistencies” and certain details she provided “lack credibility,” according to the report. A construction worker who was laying pipe with a coworker near the shooting site was branded “not credible.” The other worker refused to meet with federal investigators.

Of the 24 individuals, several admitted lying during law enforcement interviews, with one teenager saying that he just “wanted to be a part of it.” After recanting her fabricated tale, a 23-year-old woman admitted that she “wanted to be involved from the outset” and be “part of something.”

Five of the witnesses are convicted felons, with two having convictions for “crimes of dishonesty.” “Witness 137,” a 40-year-old convicted murderer, claimed that Wilson stood over Brown and “finished him off” with a shot to the head, “execution” style. The felon also claimed to have heard Brown tell Wilson, “Don’t shoot.” The man, who eventually recanted most of his claims, “was untruthful to the FBI during his initial interview,” noted federal investigators.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/darren-wilson/ferguson-perjuryfest-786930

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
31. You have a good point there.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:38 PM
Mar 2015

It seems to me that most of the lying witnesses were actually trying to get Wilson indicted.

blm

(113,061 posts)
33. When he read the verdict he made a point of emphasizing the testimony from the
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:49 PM
Mar 2015

woman who was already considered by FBI to have lied about witnessing what happened and whose tale of being there was impossible. Yet, McCulloch read it as if it was considered solid evidence and the basis for the GJ letting Wilson off.

BTW - what is being lost in that DOJ report is that they could not find enough evidence to counter Wilson's account. In a trial there would have been greater opportunity to scrutinize and cross-examine Wilson and his witnesses. That wasn't going to happen with McCulloch.

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