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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMore and more I feel like we're drowning in the flood of crazy emanating from
elected republicans in D.C. and in statehouses across the country.
It's become ridiculously bad since the ascendancy of the tea party nuts. And a lot of the crazy shit is being enacted into law.
It seems as if batshit crazy is the new norm for republicans and a significant percentage of the electorate.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)that the majority of crazy shit is originating in my state (AR), I feel a huge sense of shame for my state, its voters, and its government.
I've always tried to make excuses for Arkansas by pointing out that Clinton is from the state, and we had excellent statesmen such as J.W. Fulbright.
HOWEVER. . . It's not the same place nowadays. There is NOTHING redeeming about the state anymore. It has completely and utterly fallen to the forces of bigotry, racism, homophobia, ignorance, xenophobia, and BAT SHIT CRAZY fundamentalism.
global1
(25,242 posts)There has got to be a point that the Repug politicians will do something that will tip the balance and Repug voters will stop voting for them. Right now Repug voters have got to be embarrassed to say that they are Repugs. I keep asking my Repug friends how they are not embarrassed by those they elected. Some are starting to crack and say "I'm an independent". We have to keep after them and keep point out the stupid things those they elected do. I really thought this letter to Iran would be the straw that broke the camel's back. If we keep it in the news cycle and calling those that signed in traitorous or saboteurs - it might work.
swilton
(5,069 posts)Yes they've gone over the cliff and are bat-shit crazy.
But where are the Democrats who stand up to them? The lone and strongest voice of opposition are the Independent Bernie Sanders and the token Elizabeth Warren. Corporate Democrats running against Tea Party Republicans are not a choice and do not bring out the voters.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)midnight
(26,624 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)from the christofascists - no longer afraid to speak their true thoughts.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...things that seemed wildly impossible, even under Reagan--even under Dubya--are happening, and nothing seems able to stop it. It isn't just the New Deal and the Progressive Era that are under attack. Or even the Civil War, and the Reconstruction amendments... It's the goddam American Revolution that's under assault. The very idea of a country governed by Enlightenment principles. And the Dems seem totally unable even to explain this fact in plain English, much less show any passion in fighting it. I'm scared for the country, and honestly don't know what the endgame is. Of course, we fight as best we can, work, volunteer, and vote. But I'm certainly pessimistic these days, much more than I ever was in the Nixon days...
cali
(114,904 posts)LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)It's happened in my county. We always had more conservatives than not, but at least most of them displayed common sense for local issues. This last election, because of gobs of outside money poured into the election of some candidates, we have several Tea Party crazies in office now.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)statistically just number out.....
But here's the thing, cali......they are scared shitless of 2016. Look at the reelection numbers in the Senate. They will lose it for good.
cali
(114,904 posts)the tea party has taken over the republican party and taken over more than a few state legislatures and governorships.
Sadly, I don't think they'll lose the Senate in 2016. I think we'll make inroads, but they'll still hold it. It's a damn tall order to get it back in one election.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)We have the numbers. We need the fucking will.
mopinko
(70,090 posts)last years races were in mostly red states. 2016 races are more of the blue states. i dont think they will keep the senate.
i am pretty sure mark kirk will go down. tammy duckworth is thinking of running. she will mop the floor w him.
calimary
(81,238 posts)foretells for 2016 - the more seats you have, the more you have to defend. Which means your money will be scattered and subdivided and will have to cover more territory. And some will go begging as it appears they're not worth the struggle and expense to defend. The GOP will write a couple of 'em off.
Plus, it's a Presidential Election year and even our laziest and most unmotivated Dems tend to get off their asses and go vote for President (and then, hopefully they're not too lazy to cover the down-ticket races too).
I keep murmuring to myself - "enjoy it while you got it, mitchy-boy. You've got less than two years to throw that Senate "Majority" Leader thing around in everybody's faces. And that'll be it. That's all you've got. TWO YEARS, MAX."
Then 2018 could be a problem - but maybe, hopefully, not as much of one, at least not if THIS is off 'n' running:
http://dlcc.org/news/dlcc-launches-advantage-2020-key-success-next-round-redistricting-70-million-plus-effort
SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE, on our side, FINALLY got it through his or her pathetically thick head - that we have to defend at the STATE level. We have to get the Governor's office back, and hopefully also the Secretary of State office, too - to head off the katherine harrises and kenneth blackwells, and that jerk Secretary of State who's fouled everything up in Kansas, too. We have to get the state legislatures back - wherever and whenever we can - because THAT is where the attacks on the ACA, Roe v Wade, and the Voting Rights Act come from, as well as the abysmal Citizens United and Hobby Lobby rulings. That shit starts at the state level, too, and its activists just hope and pray they can push their lawsuits up through the legal system all the way through the Appeals Court process and then SCOTUS.
Somebody FINALLY woke up and caught on. FINALLY!!!!!!
If I donate ANYWHERE this next round, it's gonna be to Advantage 2020.
kelly1mm
(4,733 posts)e Senate. I see 3 real possible/likely pickups Kirk in IL, Toomey in PA and Johnson in WI. I cannot find a 4th. Any ideas?
Quasimodem
(441 posts)And those few which do remain are not mainstream.
Quasimodem
(441 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)emanating from the fetid bowels of the GOP. I don't know if this nuttery has always been there and we just see more of it because of the Interwebz tubes, or if they really are crazier than they've ever been. Either way, it's getting scary as hell. And depressing.
cali
(114,904 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)I suspect that the demented notions that have always been festering out there (e.g., the nutjobbery of the likes of the John Birch Society, the KKK, Father Coughlin) are now metastasizing with the help of the Internet and Faux "News." Gullible, stupid and/or mean people have always been around, but their mean, stupid gullibility is enhanced and abetted by "pundits" (did you know that "pundit" is a Sanskrit word for "wise man"? Ha!) who have managed to attain a level of credibility by virtue of nothing more than the fact that they have a voice on Faux and various loony web sites.
These people are totally mental and they scare me.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Add in Russia/Ukraine, EU/Greece, ISIS, China's pollution problems, global weather disruptions... It feels like the whole damn planet's come unhinged.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...to the point that not parroting the crazy is a political liability. Money makes it as hard as possible to distinguish the genuinely unhinged from the merely corrupt.
erronis
(15,241 posts)From now on, most significant elections in the Untied States won't be decided by voters pulling levers.
It will be decide by people with money and the ability to gerrymander/jerryrig districts, voting restrictions, and product placement.
I doubt you and I will really have a voice as voters until there is some major legal/societal upheaval.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...or they wouldn't be trying so hard to outlaw it.
mopinko
(70,090 posts)yeah, the water is getting pretty high on that count, too.
used to be thugs could pass tough abortion bills knowing they were meaningless, they would be struck down by the courts. anymore, i am not so sure.
and they have done their best to cripple orgs like planned parenthood who could be counted on to sue.
yup, i feel ya.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)The right is dragging the Overton window in their direction with all this nutty stuff, meanwhile the left is told to sit down, shut up and vote for pragmatic center right moderates or the crazy right wingers win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
cali
(114,904 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Just today I saw that an Oklahoma legislature has introduced a bill that would ban marriage that was not sanctioned by the clergy. whose clergy ?
But this is almost small potatoes compared to the long list of destructive activity that I believe is designed to do just that: destroy the country so that it can be remade in their warped visions.
I did not spend 13 months of my life in Vietnam for THIS !