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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe need another Clinton.
Wait, wait...not another actual Clinton. A candidate who, as Clinton did, came out of nowhere. Not a Hillary or Al Gore. No more recycled candidates with ready-made hatred and boredom built in.
Bill Clinton was fresh, he excited people, he infuriated the right because they didn't know who he was, he wasn't part of the club, they had no ready-made excuses or talking points, like the warehouses full of crap they'll throw (are throwing) at Hillary or Al.
A little new blood, new ideas...is that too much to ask? Yeah, it probably is.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Buy the logo and don't ask questions.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Bill Clinton WAS part of the club ...
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)I see a handshake between Wallace & GHW and young Bill seated at the table. Where was this photo taken?
I ask because I have seen this here on DU several times and I understand the suggestion, but what was the purpose of the event?
Anyone have a reference to this?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Kennebunkport, July 30, 1983: Bill Clinton, George Bush & George Wallace.
Wallace and his third wife, the former Lisa Taylor, meet with Vice President George Bush and Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton at a lobster bake at Bush's residence at Kennebunkport, Maine, July 30, 1983. The third Mrs. Wallace, whom the governor married in 1981, was 30 years his junior and half of a country-western singing duo, Mona and Lisa, who had performed during his campaign in 1968.
CREDIT: AP/Birmingham Post
SOURCE: http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/george-wallace/13/
Michael Beschloss, my mom's favorite historian, says it's genuine: https://twitter.com/beschlossdc/status/275941914182828033
George Wallace did all he could to oppose President Kennedy and his administration's policy to integrate public schools, including the University of Alabama.
Something else important to know: Wallaces running mate in 1968 was Gen. Curtis LeMay, who exhibited insubordination to President Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis. President Kennedy, former CIA analyst Ray McGovern noted, exhibited signs of stress over the possibility of a military coup.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)I suppose Bill came for the invitation & stayed for the lobster.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)his famous stand at the schoolhouse door. He apologized to civil rights leaders, and spoke at a commemoration of the Selma march. In his final term as Governor, he appointed a number of African Americans to state offices that has yet to be surpassed. In his last election he had 90% of the black vote.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Interesting politics from that era.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)change within the Democratic party now. I doubt it though.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Nice way to smear liberals. Like someone with authority did with Oswald and Cuba.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)At least according to John Dean.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Mark Felt of the Federal Bureau of Investigation immediately took charge of the case. According to the historian Dan T. Carter (The Politics of Rage), Felt had a trusted contact in the White House: Charles Colson. Felt gave Colson the news. Within 90 minutes of the shooting Richard Nixon and Colson are recorded discussing the case. Nixon told Colson that he was concerned that Bremer might have ties to the Republican Party or, even worse, the Presidents re-election committee. Nixon also asked Colson to find a way of blaming George McGovern for the shooting.
Over the next few hours, Colson and Felt talk six times on the telephone. Felt gave Colson the address of Bremer's home. Colson now phoned E. Howard Hunt and asked him to break-in to Bremer's apartment to discover if he had any documents that linked him to Nixon or George McGovern. According to Hunt's autobiography, Undercover, he disliked this idea but made preparations for the trip. He claimed that later that night Colson calls off the operation.
At 5:00 p.m. Thomas Farrow, head of the Baltimore FBI, passed details of Bremers address to the FBI office in Milwaukee. Soon afterwards two FBI agents arrived at Bremers apartment block and begin interviewing neighbours. However, they do not have a search warrant and do not go into Bremers apartment.
At around the same time, James Rowley, head of the Secret Service, ordered one of his Milwaukee agents to break into Bremers apartment. It has never been revealed why Rowley took this action. It is while this agent is searching the apartment that the FBI discover what is happening. According to John Ehrlichman, the FBI was so angry when they discovered the Secret Service in the apartment that they nearly opened fire on them.
The Secret Service took away documents from Bremers apartment. It is not known if they planted anything before they left. Anyway, the FBI discovered material published by the Black Panther Party and the American Civil Liberties Union in the apartment. Both sets of agents now left Bremers apartment unsealed. Over the next 80 minutes several reporters enter the apartment and take away documents.
Charles Colson also phoned journalists at the Washington Post and Detroit News with the news that evidence had been found that Bremer is a left-winger and was connected to the campaign of George McGovern. The reporters were also told that Bremer is a dues-paying member of the Young Democrats of Milwaukee. The next day Bob Woodward (Washington Post) and Gerald terHost (Detroit News) publish this story.
The following day that the FBI discovered Bremers 137-page written diary in his blue Rambler car. The opening sentence was: "Now I start my diary of my personal plot to kill by pistol either Richard Nixon or George Wallace." Nixon was initially suspected of being behind the assassination but the diary gets him off the hook. The diary was eventually published as a book, An Assassin's Diary (1973).
Bremers trial lasted only five days. His attorney, Benjamin Lipsitz argued that Bremer was was a "schizophrenic" who could not be held responsible for his actions. Eight psychiatrists and two psychologists testified but they were divided on the issue of his sanity. Bremer was convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to 63 years in prison. In August 1972, three appeal judges reduced Bremer's sentence to 53 years.
SOURCE: http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKbremer.htm
John Dean never explained what he meant by: "If Teddy knew the bear trap he was walking into at Chappaquiddick..."
On page 121, White House Tapes Paperback Edition, published by New York Times.
I wonder what Nixon's lawyer meant in 1973, four years afterward? Did he refer to a Secret Team-CIA-mafia hit job Ted survived, like the 1964 plane crash with Birch Bayh? White House tapes also show Nixon went along with assigning a murderous Secret Service agents to "guard" Ted.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5538381
mmonk
(52,589 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)Ok, he won and got re-elected, now it's her turn. This is taking up at least a decade, and a certain paralysis has resulted. Hillary hasn't declared (no need) and neither has anyone else.
Who might the new Clinton be? How about someone tech-savvy and young, like Andy Berke, the mayor of Chattanooga, who fought big corporations, built the fastest Internet in the world and is advising other communities on how/whether it makes sense for them. I don't know much about him, but that piece of his story is enough to make me want to learn more.
That we don't know more about potential alternatives is at least partially a function of one family dominating the discussion for three decades. Not healthy.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)... is a bit more problematic. The new ideas that came in w. the Clinton era turned out to be .... pretty much .... NO ideas at all. Just Republican-Light. ( And more "Republican" than "Light".)
At this point "new ideas" ( implying BETTER ideas) could and should draw on the OLD ideas of the pre-Clinton party.
In other words, inspired by FDR, not Hoover.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)With the media what they are, and the divide in the parties today, I am just not so sure we can replicate the win of Bill Clinton against a sitting POTUS.
It was Bill's upset win that brought about a shift in how the Right approached their elections.
They were far more undermining, hard core, and organized from the bottom up.
From gerrymandering to voter purge, and with talk radio & media working its way to the fore with bias, the Right has managed to orchestrate a divide in this country that is not going away anytime soon.
When all they now need is a POTUS to complete the trifecta, and many Dem voters we need simply beat down to where voting isn't the privilege worth bothering with like it was back in the Clinton day of the 90's, I do not have an answer as to how we beat them back.
Tough slog. Even since Obama was elected, the Right has been busy dividing even further, and undermining the ability of those who would likely vote Dem.
Much has changed and not in the favor of Dems, since Bill Clinton's out-of-nowhere election.
Those who set out, following Clinton's upset election, to move the odds in their favor have done so with little challenge or prosecution.
When money rules, this is the result.
IMO.
Thanks
cali
(114,904 posts)and a rather old one, too.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)..Bush crime family.
The history of that "family" and the trail to what threat we have today, undermining our very Democratic process, of by & for the American people, is a pretty glaring tale of how we got to the point of fighting against something so well funded, organized and lethal.
Their vision of American was much different than the rest of ours.
They had to begin a process to take the middle out of the Nation, to have the power they do today.
Slice, dice, and a few final clean cuts and the Bush Criminal enterprise marches forward.
Aided by a few of their billionaire friends, knowing that most everything can be had for a price.
I don't know how to undo this.
We start with taking 2016 from them, and we either unite or hand it over.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)He was also one of the most naturally gifted politicians of our generation.
Go to the 2:30 mark.
brooklynite
(94,513 posts)It took him a while to be noticed, but he had a long leadup to the campaign organizing political and financial support. Anyone who hasn't started that process by now is going to be hard-pressed to "pop up" successfully.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)People did like him and he did what GHW (or any Bush) would not do.
Walk among the crowd.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)If we want a candidate with new ideas, however, those have been marginalized by the money.