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mimi85

(1,805 posts)
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:01 AM Mar 2015

The Clintons' Dirty Laundry

I REALLY don't want her to get the nomination. Please, Elizabeth, run!

Like a suitcase on the world's longest luggage carousel, Hillary Rodham Clinton's all-but-assured presidential candidacy is now drifting back toward us, begging to be claimed whether or not we still want — or even remember — what is packed inside.

Oh, right. Dirty laundry. Some of it dating back decades. And much of it so stained it damages everything it touches.

Though Bill Clinton may represent the gold standard in political scandals, Hillary Clinton was getting into trouble as early as her husband's first presidential run in 1992. That was the year she found herself in hot water with country music fans by responding to a question about her husband's alleged infidelity by saying "I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette."

Clinton later apologized to Wynette, just as she had to atone for another campaign trail quip — "I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was fulfill my profession" — by entering a cookie recipe in a Family Circle magazine sponsored bake-off.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-daum-hillary-clinton-relationship-voters-abusive-20150319-column.html
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The Clintons' Dirty Laundry (Original Post) mimi85 Mar 2015 OP
Wow! Talk about irrelevant "scandals..." MineralMan Mar 2015 #1
The examples cited in the excerpt are not representative of the Clinton's laundry. Scuba Mar 2015 #2
I hope Streisand never runs for office! Metric System Mar 2015 #6
does she tout kissinger as a close advisor on foreign policy? ND-Dem Mar 2015 #23
Did she vote for one of the most formidable forces for deregulation..... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #8
Well, Bill is responsible for this ... Scuba Mar 2015 #10
He won't be running again. He is enjoying his senior years. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #12
Yeah, and Hillary advocated for breaking up the media monopolies ..... never. Scuba Mar 2015 #15
From Bill to Hillary to Bill. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #17
Bingo! This is just a fluff piece. Truly, that's how its was written & how it was intended. RiverLover Mar 2015 #13
The writer of the editorial is an asshole. There. I said it. I can't stand Hillary BUT KittyWampus Mar 2015 #3
This is what I don't get. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #16
Dirty laundry piles up when people keep spilling crap on you. Metric System Mar 2015 #4
Actual title of piece: Hillary Clinton and us - a portrait of an abusive relationship cali Mar 2015 #5
If you are implying that the Tammy Wynette was scandal, you have really jumped the shark still_one Mar 2015 #7
... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #9
This is actually a fairly pro-Hillary piece if you read it through RiverLover Mar 2015 #11
yeah, I read that and I completely disagree that it's pro-Hillary in any way. cali Mar 2015 #14
Where'd you go mimi85? Start a Trash Thread then disappear? misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #18
Hard Right? The author of this Op Ed also wrote about Big Brothers Big Sisters RiverLover Mar 2015 #19
I'm here - why the trash thread? mimi85 Mar 2015 #20
I will vote for Mrs Clinton ONLY if she is the last person standing. Stellar Mar 2015 #21
I totally agree! nt mimi85 Mar 2015 #22

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
1. Wow! Talk about irrelevant "scandals..."
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:05 AM
Mar 2015

Are we going to hear about every little thing Hillary has done that some don't like? Neither of the things in your linked article are scandals in any way, nor do either of them have anything to do with her qualifications to be President.

What other Hillary Clinton "scandals" will you find to bring here next? I can hardly wait.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. The examples cited in the excerpt are not representative of the Clinton's laundry.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:07 AM
Mar 2015

It's much, much dirtier than a few verbal gaffes.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. Did she vote for one of the most formidable forces for deregulation.....
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:14 AM
Mar 2015

in our countries history, or was that someone else's dirty laundry. Kissinger has photos with many good progressives. Do you have any of those "saved" for quick use like this one?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. He won't be running again. He is enjoying his senior years.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:44 AM
Mar 2015

You won't have to vote for him again.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. From Bill to Hillary to Bill.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 12:01 PM
Mar 2015

Lets keep king deregulator Regan and his mindless supporters out of it. Thanks.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. The writer of the editorial is an asshole. There. I said it. I can't stand Hillary BUT
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:09 AM
Mar 2015

My criticisms stem from her politics. Her votes. Her stances. Her record.

The writer of this crap regurgitates the nonsense that republicans threw at Hillary as if they were legitimate scandals. As if republicans are just going to smile and pat any Democrat running for office on the back.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. This is what I don't get.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:52 AM
Mar 2015

Progressive individuals(not calling the author of the article a progressive) have legitimate issues with Hillary. Some on this board opposed to her state their reasons why very succinctly and somewhat respectfully. Then we have stuff like this. Haven't they figured out yet that these types of attack make voters/citizens scratch their heads and think the attacks are frivolous. This leads to an emotional response of feeling bad for Hillary(which should never be done, and I am a supporter of hers) leading to favoritism toward her.

I would think conservatives would have figured that out by now. If I were of the conservative persuasion, I would write about many of the issues progressives don't like her for. They should know at this point that conservatives can't stand her. Their goal should be driving a wedge into the Democratic Party.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. Actual title of piece: Hillary Clinton and us - a portrait of an abusive relationship
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:09 AM
Mar 2015

I'm not a supporter of Clinton's- to put it mildly- but this piece has a right wing stench to it.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
7. If you are implying that the Tammy Wynette was scandal, you have really jumped the shark
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:11 AM
Mar 2015

Maybe you can bring up how the republicans trashed her when she tried to create a healthcare system for everyone, or stand up for women's rights, etc.

Sorry if it bugs you that she encourages women to NOT follow the traditional exceptions of the sexist society we live in

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
11. This is actually a fairly pro-Hillary piece if you read it through
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:39 AM
Mar 2015

to its intended & funny conclusion~

.....

That so many have nonetheless hung in with her — her unspoken campaign slogan sometimes seems akin to "Hillary: We've Waited This Long, So Why Give Up Now?" — suggests that Clinton takes a perverse pleasure in all the abuse. Otherwise, why wouldn't she have just used common sense along with email at State?

Maybe because she already knows something that most commanders in chief don't find out until they reach office. She knows that the relationship between the president of the United States and the citizens of the United States is largely an abusive one, or at least a tortured one. Full of empty promises on one side and constant dissatisfaction on the other, you'd have to be a glutton for punishment to venture into it at all.

Which is why Clinton, that ever-hopeful suitcase, may be perfect for the job. No matter how roughly she's handled, she's still waiting patiently for us to claim her.


And the author had me until the end.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
18. Where'd you go mimi85? Start a Trash Thread then disappear?
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 12:02 PM
Mar 2015

If you believe in your OP, then please support it by answering the posters who call you out.
Otherwise its just another hit piece culled from the Hard Right who knows dang well that Hillary Clinton will kick their butts in 2016.

They are dredging up & making up anything to diminish her strength and here we are with a DUer providing the Hard Right's trash meme as an OP worthy of news.

Regardless of who your preferred candidate is to oppose the GOP, this OP is even beneath Du's loose standards.

This deserves a Lock or at minimum a Trash.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
19. Hard Right? The author of this Op Ed also wrote about Big Brothers Big Sisters
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 12:23 PM
Mar 2015
Difference Maker
The childless, the parentless, and the Central Sadness.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/29/difference-maker

She's a flaming Liberal in LA who wrote a fluff piece about Hillary's baggage.

Some of the conservatives on DU are trying really hard to censor here.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
20. I'm here - why the trash thread?
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 12:57 AM
Mar 2015

I happened to read it in the LA Times and just wanted to see what you all thought. I'm not an HRC supporter (not that it's any of your business). What standards? I only wanted to get other's opinions. Why are you taking this so seriously? Send an email to the writer of the piece if you're that upset. Just the messenger here.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
21. I will vote for Mrs Clinton ONLY if she is the last person standing.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 01:03 AM
Mar 2015

I much prefer Liz Warren myself, but if all that left to vote for is Hillary Clinton, and all her faults. I'm no fool, I will vote for her. Why take a chance and let a teabagger win. Then we will be truly f***ed-up.

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