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Renew Deal

(81,858 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:16 AM Mar 2015

Can doves win in 2016?

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That's a simplistic way of asking a complicated question. With all of the wars, violence, and threats in the world, will American voters be looking for strong foreign policy leadership in 2016? Will voters be looking for protection or common sense?

In addition, republicans have an unstated policy of wanting to always sound tougher than their competition (just watch the upcoming primaries). So if the Democrat comes out and says we should invade Yemen, republicans will say we should invade Yemen and Iran. If the Democrat says we should nuke Yemen, the republican will say we should use 2 nukes on Yemen. It's the game they play.

And if you believe that foreign policy and security are major issues in 2016, do you believe the Democrat should get into a bidding war with the republican on MIC funding increases? Cruz and Paul have been throwing around $160-$200 billion. Should the Democrat come out asking for $500 billion?

Can a candidate win in 2016 while proposing a reduction of defense spending?

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Can doves win in 2016? (Original Post) Renew Deal Mar 2015 OP
Worked for (candidate) Obama. /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #1
Not a complete dove considering he supported increasing drone strikes and trying to find Bin Laden. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #3
Can doves win in 2016? Cheese Sandwich Mar 2015 #2
Maybe. Oligarchs need a new hobby. War sucks.... /nt think Mar 2015 #4

Renew Deal

(81,858 posts)
3. Not a complete dove considering he supported increasing drone strikes and trying to find Bin Laden.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:31 AM
Mar 2015

But yes, he was pretty good.

You have to consider that this is a much different time than 2008. In 2008 financial issues were the highest priority. In 2016, the economy is better and many parts of the world are feuding with each other.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
2. Can doves win in 2016?
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:27 AM
Mar 2015

LOL nope because there is not one running. Bernie is probably the closest thing but he is a very long shot.

Some democrats say they want a leaner meaner force for the modern conflicts. Less boots on the ground, more drones, more special forces actions. Less shock and awe, more dirty wars. Point being that cutting military spending isn't always dovish. We've already been bombing Yemen for years.

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