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Sustainable Living Means Making Big Changes; Why Can't We Face Up to It?
Sunday, 29 March 2015 00:00
By Kirstie O'Neill, Adrian Friday and Adrian K. Clear, The Conversation | Op-Ed
Despite the significant risks for human and non-human life, greenhouse gas emissions (GhG) are still rising. Something has to give and that something would appear more significant than those with the power to stimulate change are willing to admit.
The UK governments Global Calculator is a good example. This recently released tool allows us to model the compatibility of our food, travel, housing and work environment with national targets to limit climate change. The climate secretary, Ed Davey, reckons the calculator shows everyone in the world can prosper while limiting global temperature rises to two degrees, preventing the most serious impacts of climate change.
Yet even the most ambitious changes the tool advocates deviate little from our current normal patterns of behaviour supposedly essential appliances still include tumble driers, while under the extremely ambitious scenario, the urban car would still account for 29% of journeys (currently 41.5%) per year. Meat is included as a core component of daily meals, and very few indicators relate to diet. It remains to be seen which government would adopt the extremely ambitious changes.
This isnt what a sustainable future looks like. It isnt even close. Do we really need tumbledried clothes, or to eat meat every day?
Transitioning to sustainability will require profound changes in our everyday ways of living, particularly in westernised countries. It requires changes that are much more significant than simply doing the things that we currently do, but more efficiently. ....................(more)
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/29916-sustainable-living-means-making-big-changes-so-why-can-t-we-face-up-to-it
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)(Sorry.)
cali
(114,904 posts)Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Humans don't do well with "big changes".
In fact as the article points out the changes actually aren't that great, but we'll drag our feet and resist so much that they'll seem that way.
Warpy
(111,261 posts)and it affects the Democratic leadership every bit as much as the Republicans.
People at the bottom are making changes, like getting energy star appliances if they can afford to do it, driving sedans instead of SUVs, and conserving where they can in order to cut the bills.
We need top down change but it's not going to happen while the top continues to make paper profits. Only when they start seeing the money going out will they accept things like higher taxation unless they restart domestic industry including renewable energy to resurrect a moribund economy.
It's not going to last much longer, it's not sustainable and choking off the demand side by offshoring good jobs and suppressing wages for bad ones will bring the whole business to a tottering halt sooner rather than later.
Climate change will exacerbate everything as people add real hunger to poverty. A hungry population has been known to terrify the wealthy into adopting changes.
cali
(114,904 posts)by definition, if you're on the bottom you can't afford such things.
I don't think people at the bottom are making changes. I don't think people at the top are making changes and I don't think people in the middle are making changes- at least not in the substantive ways mentioned in the article.
As others have noted, humans don't make big changes with ease.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)owns a apartment house - he buys energy star because of the refunds from the government and the tax breaks.
Some poor do not have choices. I do not have a car anymore not only because I do not trust my driving skills but because for years I have not been able to afford one. I live in a small bedroom in a house I share a bathroom and kitchen. But I would agree that the poor may not make the changes because they cannot afford to.
I was interested to learn that some states who have weatherization are actually putting energy star appliances in houses they work on. Good move. Insulating homes and putting new furnaces in also helps the poor make the changes.
cali
(114,904 posts)a for this post.
I get it. I'm no longer in that position, but I sure as hell have been. One of the things I love about VT is Energy Vermont which helps the poor is such things as insulating homes.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)the poor and is also good for the climate they will surely cut it!
Thank you for the hug.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Hotels could stop providing towels and everyone just brings their own towels which I predict would not be changed daily as they are in hotels. Same with cruise ships who use a lot of water and energy simply washing towels and changing sheets everyday or two. Americans should use recycled paper products for plates for meals which would save so much water and energy. There is a lot of small things Americans can do that would add up pretty quickly. I know that I use paper plates for all meals except major holidays Christmas and Thanksgiving. I am saving the planet a little at a time.
cali
(114,904 posts)me as something that would make a positive impact. I rarely use paper plates because they get thrown out. And where I live, water is abundant and it doesn't take much hot water to wash dishes.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)And we need Americans to take baby steps or we get discouraged and feel deprived...human nature. The paper plates I use are recycled and I put them in the recycling bucket.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Are we all supposed to go back to clotheslines, or is there some other 'tech' that's more efficient than tumble driers? (I live in a town that's downwind from a coke and steel plant, and has had troubles over the years with black soot being deposited on things outside, and is in one of the parts of the country that is notoriously bad for allergies. Drying clothes indoors without them getting dirty again is feasible, but takes up room and takes far longer so that clothes can end up smelling 'mildewy'. Sure, if I lived in some rural area, I could use a clothesline without worrying about my dried clothes being dirtier than before I washed them, or mildewing as they slowly dried inside.)
But I could certainly do with less meat in my diet.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)I dry outdoor in summer, indoor when very cold and just finish for a minute in the dryer
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Always left clothing smelling sort of mildewy and took a lot longer to dry. I was hoping the authors maybe had some 'tech' solution that used less power. Maybe something like that but inside a solar oven deal? Lots of mirrors to direct sunlight?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)This planet and human intelligence could easily provide comfortable lives for all. Sadly, greed makes that impossible.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)clothes out to dry. It was great BUT not in the winter. I remember getting frozen clothes off the line in 2 feet of snow. Many of us gave up on that and would string lines in the living room to hang things on washday. Curious is there something today that is an alternative to the tumble drier other than what I just described?
handmade34
(22,756 posts)unfortunately, even here on a (supposed) liberal site, when there is mention of cutting meat consumption
the answer sometimes is akin to ""
over my dead body
" how ironic
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/03/150311-cow-agriculture-cattle-dairy-beef-health-food-ngbooktalk
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/03/eating-less-meat-curb-climate-change
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Every meal. Now we could go with a five ounce steak rather then a 14 ounce steak. That would be a start. Load up on vegetables and a bigger baked potato maybe.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)new 2015 to come out soon
(unfortunately the meat industry lobbyies heavily) the old guidelines linger
http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2010/DietaryGuidelines2010.pdf
Mediterranean diet ...can be described as an eating pattern that emphasizes vegetables, fruits and nuts, olive oil, and grains (often whole grains). Only small amounts of meats and full-fat milk and milk products are usually included.
of cardiovascular disease, and lower total mortality. Several clinical trials have documented that vegetar- ian eating patterns lower blood pressure.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)says to eat 5-6 oz of protein A DAY from all sources including eggs, beans, nuts, and seeds.
http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/protein.html
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Probably from years of hearing different failed information from varied sources. Thank you for your reply.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)And when they hear the word "protein" they automatically think "meat".
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)We've been eating meat for 1000's of years, the only change is how many humans are on the planet now.
The biggest and best thing for this planet would humans to reduce their numbers.
But that, like eating meat, is a personal choice fraught with emotions.
If someone ate meat everyday, but didn't reproduce, then they are more environmentally friendly than a vegan with multiple kids.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)I do believe that "sustainability will require profound changes" and reducing the population along with less meat consumption, less fossil fuel consumption
etc
why not have less kids, eat less meat, along with other measures
there is not one solution
"profound changes are required"
I'm in favor of 2 kids per vegetarian couple
hunter
(38,312 posts)People, especially wealthy people who have power and control over many "workers," can't imagine any sort of world where the best thing for the average person to do on any given day is stay home and read a book, mess around in an organic garden, or go hiking with friends.
We are trapped in a world where "economic productivity" is directly proportional to the damage we do to our earth's environment and our human spirit.
We have to figure out ways to comfortably unemploy people or shift them into sustainable industry. A good way of unemploying people is subsidized education free for life, in the arts or in retraining for sustainable industry. A good way of increasing the sustainability of our society is to get rid of automobiles, mostly in an entirely voluntary way, by restructuring our communities so they become very desirable places to live, walkable and with good public transportation, so that owning an automobile becomes an unnecessary inconvenience. Sex education needs to start before adolescence, and birth control needs to be freely available.
Machine washed and tumbled dried clothes are fairly low on the list of unsustainable economics. Fossil fueled wars and general transportation, the "car culture," are high on the list.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Telcontar
(660 posts)Our only option is to push through and develope more technology to control atmospheric carbon.
d_r
(6,907 posts)just not for 7 billion people on the planet
starroute
(12,977 posts)Many of the energy-intensive shortcuts we take are essential because we don't have the time to do things the old-fashioned way. Hanging clothes to dry takes more time than tossing them in the dryer (and may require ironing afterwards, which involves more time and uses energy on its own.) Cooking from scratch takes more time than using prepackaged foods. Walking or biking takes more time than driving.
If we all had an extra two hours a day, we could make some of the changes that presently look impossible.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Decent wages for all people? Great idea, so long as MY wage isn't lowered to pay those people in those sweatshops!!
Sustainable living for everyone? Sure, so long as "my" house is warm and toasty, or cool as a cucumber, so that I can run around in my drawers and bare feet the year round!!!!
It's simple to talk the talk--walking the walk, though, that's another thing altogether.
azmom
(5,208 posts)In the movie interstellar there is line that says that as a species it's hard for us to have empathy for those beyond our sight. And I think that is accurate.
quadrature
(2,049 posts)people (who shall remain nameless)
that fly around in a private jet...
tell the middle class that they can't have
a 4 cyl private car.
change is going to be real tough.
.....................
a variation on that, is when
people in northern US states
think that electricity in southern states needs
to be under some type of carbon control,
but that natural gas for heating is exempt.