One Restaurant Already Celebrated ‘Religious Liberty’ By Turning Away Gays (Ind. h/t ThinkProgress)

[salin]

From Think Progress:

One Restaurant Already Celebrated ‘Religious Liberty’ By Turning Away Gays

by Kay Steiger Posted on March 28, 2015 at 9:19 am Updated: March 29, 2015 at 9:56 am

An Indiana business owner went on a local radio station and said that he had discriminated against gay or lesbian couples even before Gov. Mike Pence (R) signed a law on Thursday protecting business owners who decide to discriminate for “religious liberty” reasons. He then defended the practice and suggested he would do it again.

The business owner, who would not give his name or the name of his business, said he had told some LGBT “people” that equipment was broken in his restaurant and he couldn’t serve them even though it wasn’t and other people were already eating at the tables. “So, yes, I have discriminated,” he told RadioNOW 100.9 hosts. The hosts were surprised the owner said he was okay with discriminating.

“Well, I feel okay with it because it’s my place of business, I pay the rent, I’ve built it with all my money and my doing. It’s my place; I can do whatever I want with it,” he said. “They can have their lifestyle and do their own thing in their own place or with people that want to be with them.”

More at link: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/03/28/3640221/indiana-business-owner-admits-discriminating-lgbt-people/


See, business owner troll - you are a discriminating coward. If you are going to discriminate - post it. Of course you won't because then you would lose a lot of business - not just from those you already turn away. Own your bigotry so the rest of us can be discriminating and avoid your place of business.


So much for Gov Dense's defense that this isn't a law to protect/allow discrimination.

[MineralMan]

1. I'd say to him: Cool story, Dude.

If he doesn't have the guts to tell us his name or the name of his business, I'm guessing that this never actually happened. Sounds like braggadocio to me. I call bullshit on his story.

[RKP5637]

7. Agree! n/t

[secondvariety]

22. I agree.

[mythology]

25. I agree

Thus far, there's no real evidence that this is true.

[CincyDem]

2. "...who would not give his name or the name of his business..."

Now that's "Hoosier Pride".

Here's a guy who believes he can do whatever he wants and hasn't got the balls to own his actions, tell people who he is and let the chips fall where they may.

Someone will figure out who this guy is and then it's going to be fun.

[daleanime]

5. +1

[ScreamingMeemie]

6. He's lying. Someone would have outed him already for it.

I doubt he has enough money to buy breakfast at "Jim's Restaurant of My Own Mind."

[Initech]

16. This anonymous business owner will soon know the fury of the internet.

Where's Anonymous at?

[ScreamingMeemie]

3. I pretty much call BS on this "business owner." Until someone comes forward to

publicize that he/she/they was/were discriminated against, this is just a "telephone warrior," going for his daily high.

If I happened to be in Indiana and actually saw an actual case of discrimination, I would document that online within minutes. Anti-discrimination has been all about shedding light, and we've heard nothing.

[JHB]

20. Let's just call him "Joe the Restaurant Owner"

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What's the non-plumber up to these days, anyway?

[RKP5637]

4. Damn Chicken Shit Coward! Wants to give the grief, but can't take it. Another damn bigoted fool!

And likely a liar.

[Cha]

32. lol.. I just said the same thing..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6439393

[BlueCaliDem]

8. If he's too chicken-s**t to give his name and the name of his restaurant, then it didn't really

happen. That's my opinion, as unscientific as it is. I just go by human nature. Bigots and racists are more than happy to shout their bigotry and racism from the roof tops. So why pass on an opportunity to get free publicity for his business and have his name engraved on the Stone of Racist Morons if it really happened?

[stone space]

9. Sorry, but this sort of cowardly discrimination hardly counts.

said he had told some LGBT “people” that equipment was broken in his restaurant and he couldn’t serve them even though it wasn’t and other people were already eating at the tables.

Anybody can do that, with or without the new law. People lie all the time, and often they get away with it. Nothing new about that.

(And, oddly enough, I doubt that the new law would even protect this particular owner, unless lying about broken equipment is now considered as a religion. The new law would seem to work best for a less cowardly class of bigots.)

[DisgustipatedinCA]

10. This sounds like another version of Joe the Idiot non-Plumber

if the real story came out, we would find out this guy wasn't really a business owner, per se. But this one time he talked with his friend about starting a business, and believe you me, this hypothetical business certainly wouldn't cater to teh gay.

Underachieving delusions of grandeur.

[salin]

12. good call.

that made me laugh!

[rhett o rick]

11. How would he feel if Safeway and Kroger told him they didn't want his kind to patronize their

stores.

[world wide wally]

13. You can tell he is a deeply spiritual person.

So, it's against his religion to serve a gay person, but he brags about lying to them. Which religion teaches that?

He probably cheats at board games with his family at home too.

[treestar]

14. He is wrong

The law determined long ago. He is in commerce and congress says no discrimination.

[L0oniX]

15. “religious liberty”??? I'd like to be liberated from their religion and them.

[underpants]

17. Praise the Lord and pass the potatoes

Hold it, you aren't gay are you?!?!?

[salin]

18. erp... I can't serve you - the potato mashing equipment just broke!

per dude's pro-discrimination story.

[Rex]

19. Sin, cast, first, stone.

Glass houses, self-loathing, pride, hatred.

Must be strange being one of these kind of Christians. I swear their main man talked all about turning the other cheek etc..

[LynneSin]

21. If he won't name his business and location it's like he has a giant White Robe over it.

If this guy was so happy he could be a hateful bigot and discriminate and that the laws protect him then why not promote his business so others could attend. I mean you'd think all the other hateful-bigoted 'Christians' would want to dine at this place to ensure they wouldn't be contaminated. Sounds like his business is hiding under one giant size White Robe, just like those before him who wanted to promote hate against minorities. Too fearful to show their faces so they covered them in robes so no one would know them in public during the daytime.

Yet businesses that cater to everyone have no problem promoting their name and their business so anyone could find them and come enjoy their services.

And btw everyone including LGBT pay taxes for that man's business to ensure he has a road that leads to his business, police & fire to protect it, an electrical grid to power it, clean water to service it, sanitation to remove the waste and federal disaster money to fix it up should disaster strike.

[oct1537Ashley]

23. thumbs up

= 0

[uppityperson]

24. Are you really "thumbs up" for a restaurant discriminating against gay people?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. Assuming this actually happened, which I rather doubt,

how did this alleged restaurant owner know the customers he allegedy excluded were gay? Does this guy ask each customer whether they are gay before seating them? Is asking unnecessary because he has infallible gaydar? Does he assume the orientation of total strangers by relying on stereotypes? Or does he only exclude people who are, in his presence, engaging in overt sexual acts with a member of their own gender?

I suspect this is some keyboard warrior who likes to talk about refusing to serve Teh Gay, but he doesn't really own a restaurant or even venture out of his parents' basement more often than necessary to buy more Mountain Dew and Cheetos. But if this really did happen the guy is a chickenshit without the cojones to own his bigotry. He wants to discriminate without having to pay the price, which would be the inevitable financial consequences of a lot of people finding out he's a bigoted douchebag.

[Jerry442]

34. The gays wear those pink triangles.

Oh wait, did Indiana start that yet?

[greymattermom]

27. Every big party should announce that one of them is gay

Just before asking to be seated to drop several hundred or more on dinner. See if they all get turned away.

[gordianot]

28. Great idea, take a step further every one who enters any Indiana place of buisness identify as gay.

Do this at every opportunity, turn up the heat, make a scene. Indiana could become one huge segregation era lunch counter.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

29. That's horrible.

Surely, that is against the law?

I understand the religious exemption, even though my church has no problem with gays. I get that somebody might be happy to sell you brownies, cupcakes, and a birthday cake, but feel like it is against their religious beliefs to make a wedding cake. I disagree with it, but I get it.

However, eating in a restaurant? Good grief. What next? Someone won't sell a gay guy a pair of shoes?

This is ridiculous. Twenty-five years from now, I would hate to have my grandkids find out that I was such an asshole.

[SomethingFishy]

30. Cowards...

Pence signed the bill in "private" surrounded by a bunch of homophobes and now this asshole is so proud of himself he won't tell you who he is.

Fuck these people.

[Cha]

31. Some chickenshit restaurant owner went on some radio station and bragged about it anonymously.

Thanks creep.. you just made the case against gov Dense.

mahalo salin

[salin]

33. Mahalo Cha

This unfolding events here are causing whiplash in many corners.

It is imploding massively on a power structure that appeared (and appears to have believed about itself) to be impervious to criticism and imperial in taking action (super-majorities in both legislative houses + gov) When this is all over - there will be many lessons to learn on the front of those seeking both civil rights justice and economic justice.

Or should I say: "Right Wing Fiasco on aisle 4 - please send cleanup!"

[Cha]

35. Whiplash! RWingers..

Imploding Who could have guessed!?!

This is Outstanding, salin.. and the hits keep coming!

[Enthusiast]

36. We knew it..............nt

[Trailrider1951]

37. If I lived in Indiana, here is how I would handle this problem:

Step 1: Go to restaurant, get seated and have menu in hand.

Step 2: Ask to speak with the owner/manager.

Step 3: Ask owner/manager if they refuse to serve gay people.

Step 4: If the answer is yes, take your money elsewhere by leaving immediately. If the answer is no, enjoy your meal.

I'm not gay, but I can NEVER support discrimination of ANY kind.

[Myrina]

38. ... the law doesn't take effect til July 1, so this clown can and should be sued.

n/t