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Trevor Noah’s History of Jewish and Fat Jokes Has People Up in Arms

It’s been 24 hours since Comedy Central announced that relatively unknown (to Americans, at least) South African comedian Trevor Noah will be taking over for Jon Stewart as host of The Daily Show later this year. And already, people on Twitter have dug back through his old tweets and singled out jokes that are being called “anti-Semitic” and “racist,” among other things.

On Jewish people:

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Almost bumped a Jewish kid crossing the road. He didn't look b4 crossing but I still would hav felt so bad in my german car!

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Messi gets the ball and the real players try foul him, but Messi doesn't go down easy, just like jewish chicks. #ElClasico

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Behind every successful Rap Billionaire is a double as rich Jewish man. #BeatsByDreidel

On Women

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I like women that don't wear make up. For me they're like pizza- still great the next morning!
9:04 AM - 2 May 2010

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"Oh yeah the weekend. People are gonna get drunk & think that I'm sexy!" - fat chicks everywhere.
6:27 AM - 14 Oct 2011

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A hot white woman with ass is like a unicorn. Even if you do see one, you'll probably never get to ride it.
1:57 PM - 28 Nov 2011

On the LGBT community

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Looking at how successful all the Kardashian women are, I don't blame Bruce Jenner at all.
4:27 PM - 5 Feb 2015

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I'm watching Olympic women's hockey. It's like lesbian porn. Without the porn. #InLove
11:39 AM - 31 Jul 2012

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trevor-noahs-history-of-jewish-and-fat-jokes-has-everyone-up-in-arms/



on edit: fixed misplaced tweet.

[TwilightGardener]

1. I wanted Chris Hardwick to take over. He's funny but knows where the line is.

[geek tragedy]

2. who vetted this guy, the 2008 McCain campaign? nt

[seabeyond]

3. stewart, and a lot of left leaning men do not mind this stuff. further, they think we ought to

lighten up. or they start calling us prude and such. you know, the man card. lol. stewart has always flavored this mentality to women, as he stands up for our rights, and is dead on in some areas. this one? not so much. him and colbert get chuckles talking about women like this. wink wink.

[geek tragedy]

5. I will admit that I enjoy inappropriate humor at times.

But there's a line between humor and just being mean.

The comedy circuit has always been a boys-club that's been not very welcoming to women.

If they're going to get someone offensive, get Sarah Silverman.

[seabeyond]

7. here is the thing. when they have the cool kids, that truly support women, giggle....

then they get all fuzy of what is ok or not. then they get pissed when it affects them. when women do not simply laugh at the insult, degradation or humiliation and shame.

want to giggle with the boys.... understand it is giggle with the racists, just not to AA's face. my boys are really good about turning off the misogynist comedians cause they know i do not think it is funny. they are good about waiting for a time, when i do not have to be offended (they are being considerate towards me, a pat on their back), so they can enjoy their laugh.

really? what does that say?

i am seriously asking.

[geek tragedy]

15. humor is complex from a psychological point of view, more than I can understand

Don't know why, but stuff people know is wrong can make them laugh.

Joan Rivers was outrageously offensive, but she made people laugh because it rarely came from malice, but rather from shock value.

Same jokes from Rush Limbaugh, not funny unless a person shares the malice that Limbaugh has.

This guy seems like a multiracial SAE frat boy.

[merrily]

109. Louie CK once got irate on the Daily Show about intolerance of rape "humor."

Stewart looked mildly uncomfortable, but let the rant go on.

[seabeyond]

110. i saw that. that was ck taking steps forward. a learning experience for him

he use to not be so aware. he had gotten better. i do not know baout his tv show, but i have listened to his more recent stuff. he walks the line pretty well, not stepping over to sexism, disrespect, but funny

[merrily]

113. ? His conclusion was for women to sit down and shut up about his rape jokes.

He said some good things leading it up to that but, at the end, I wanted to spit. I will not watch him because of that.

[seabeyond]

115. i thought he later came off that position. i thought there was a .... flip flop on it and apology.

maybe my bad. i know at first he defended tosh. but, i thought he later moved forward on the issue.

[merrily]

117. The episode I saw was as I described. He said some of the right things around the middle,

but concluded with something like "and I get all that, but enough," meaning enough objections from women about rape jokes.

Maybe there was a later epiphany I missed because I refused to watch him after that?

[seabeyond]

131. i just cannot keep track of ALL the assholes on our side using us for their humor,

at our expense and telling us to laugh it off. like i have an obligation to him and his maleness....

[merrily]

142. Joking about women is one thing. Joking about rape is another.

Female comics joke about men and their relationships with men, so I can't fault male comics for doing the same. But, I've yet to hear a female comic joke about a man having a broom shoved up his butt as part of hazing sadism or being otherwise raped. If any did, I'd criticize them, too.

[gollygee]

8. Making fun of women seems to be the norm in comedy

And always has been, hasn't it? I don't know about making fun of Jewish people, but that seems like it's on the rise to me.

I hope people would check into the back twitter feed of a white Jon Stewart replacement too. Sometimes people of color are held to a higher standard, but these tweets do seem in horrible taste and would be no matter who said them. My fear is that we never would have heard about it if the replacement had been a white man.

I think these attitudes are pretty common in comedy, sadly. It seems like being offensive is seen as edgy and cool sometimes.

[seabeyond]

10. yes. just a joke. and we are suppose to lighten up. seems to even be the expectation we see it as

funny while we are insulted, humiliated, shamed and degraded.

does that make sense to you? cause it does not make sense to me.

we have to see these jokes thru a mans eye. cannot see it thru a womans eye, cause then it is simply an insult. mans eye? oh, what a hoot.

the whole world must be seen and hear and acted upon from a white, hetero, mans view.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. Trevor's mother is half Jewish and black, his father is white and their marriage was illegal in

South Africa. Mum went to jail for it. With that knowledge, we can assume that he has an utterly ignorant and hateful point of view toward Jews and that he would be a strong supporter of discrimination of all kinds, don't you think?

[geek tragedy]

20. how does anything in his background preclude him from having a misogynist streak?

The whole "I'm Jewish so I can tell any Jew jokes I like" died when Seinfeld lampooned it.

[gollygee]

21. OK . . .I seem to recall that I said he was trying to be edgy

and that I don't know that anyone would have looked into this if he were white. I'm not sure why I got this reply. I do think the tweets are offensive regardless of who said them. I'm a woman and if I wrote something anti-woman, it would be offensive even though I'm a woman. I don't know how likely it is that Comedy Central will find a comedian who has never written anything offensive as that's seen as edgy and therefore good in comedy.

[one_voice]

28. Interesting background...

I had no idea.

that's how he dealt with things...

This is what Noah, the newly announced successor to Jon Stewart at Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show,” has been doing for nearly a decade: Mining tragedy, inequality and prejudice for laughs and attempting, mostly successfully, to satirize his subjects without trivializing them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/31/trevor-noahs-apartheid-comedy-and-how-it-made-him-jon-stewarts-unlikely-successor/


Thanks for the background.

[snooper2]

9. equal opportunity offenders

[merrily]

107. And gays.

[TwilightGardener]

4. I know--not like they couldn't have scoured his tweets from LAST MONTH.

[deutsey]

53. lol

[LittleBlue]

6. It's offensive but he's a comedian

George Carlin has said worse. I recall him saying he loved watching natural disasters and always hoped they got worse. He liked watching them cause human misery as payback for what we do to nature. Keep in mind this was within a year of the Indonesian tsunami and Katrina.

[still_one]

81. Bill maher, I could name a slew of them, that would offend someone

[hifiguy]

90. Good thing no one here apparently ever heard Lenny Bruce.

The job of good comedy includes making people uncomfortable. Always has, always will.

[AngryAmish]

102. Glenn Beck fancies himself a comedian

[Bluenorthwest]

11. The man is a comedian for a living. In a society where people claim the Pope's verbal attacks on

LGBT people are acceptable, the idea that those same folks turn on a comic is a hypocrisy beyond all description.

[geek tragedy]

19. I would imagine that most people objecting to this also find Pope Frank's bigotry

appalling.

The bigger problem is that they're not funny--there's not much there in those tweets but hostility towards the people being described.

[dembotoz]

12. would jon stewart be hired today?

he has been "edgy"

[JaneyVee]

13. Not offensive to me, and I'm a white Jewish girl with a nice ass like a unicorn.

He's a comedian.

[Efilroft Sul]

116. Pics? Okay, your post was Duzy-worthy!

[leveymg]

14. Worse, still - his one-liners aren't that funny. Rough start.

[Eleanors38]

23. Ah! There's the rub.

[el_bryanto]

24. You mean these ones?

Or in general?

I had never heard of this person until yesterday, but Salon did a story on his comedy bits and I thought he was pretty funny. His timing isn't that fluid but he was funny i thought.

Bryant

[leveymg]

30. If those are any indication . . .

1) there are funny jokes, 2) there are bigoted jokes, and 3) there are funny, bigoted jokes. #2, alone, won't make it in the Big Leagues.

[el_bryanto]

39. But his other bits - what did you think of those? nt

[leveymg]

52. Haven't seen them yet. Gotta link?

[el_bryanto]

56. Sure

Here's the primer from Salon. There are several clips.

[snooper2]

16. The Art and Freedom to Offend people

[seabeyond]

18. and the freedom to call it out, correct?

[snooper2]

22. Sure! George Carlin -Rights and Privileges

"Either we have unlimited rights, or no rights at all. Personally I lean toward unlimited rights, I feel for instance I have the right to do anything I please. But, if I do something you don't like, I think you have the right to kill me."

[seabeyond]

25. i enjoy carlin. he is also not my god. nor am i a follower. i like some stuff he says,

and disagree with other stuff he says. after all. he is coming from it as a man. as a white man. as a white hetero man. as a white hetero man of the generation past with lots of "isms... and all of us just learning and accepting, you know, thinking.

he is not all right.

i also bought his book and gave it to oldest. because there is a lof of funny in it. and i said to him.... carlin is not a god and does get some stuff wrong, being a white hetero male.

[snooper2]

33. He is the closest thing to a god who ever lived

Also,

Here he is talking about rape- "You can joke about anything"



George Carlin About Rape

[seabeyond]

34. and again... ya. if you are a man. a white man. a hetero white man. hence me giving my son

the tip i did. so his lily white male ego would not be stroked to the extent of not being able to hear his privilege and entitlement, they live.

[snooper2]

35. you should watch that video from about 4:00 on

Control of Words Control of Thought

[seabeyond]

36. snoopers, not only have i grown up with this man, and listened to him repeatedly...

du men continue give me these snippets to validate something, .... and i have watched them repeatedly.

and it changes nothing i say. further, i continue to reinforce this white hetero man is not right on, with all things. a lot of stuff, yes. but he is just a man of his times viewing from mans eyes.....

[snooper2]

40. George Carlin on white people

[ScreamingMeemie]

42. You know what really impressed me?

My 16-year-old son really, really, REALLY wanted Tina Fey to be chosen.

[seabeyond]

43. she really would have been the perfect fit. and even more perfect cause not cause she is a woman.

the other from park and rec would be good too.

and cool to your son. my 17 yr old son felt so, also.

[ProfessorGAC]

71. I Would Have Bought Into That

She's absolutely great and i think the venue would be perfect for her, because she could stretch out a bit and do a little longer commentary on certain things each day.

Your son has very good taste in comedians.

[Marr]

47. Have you considered the possibility that you might not be right on with all things, either? /nt

[seabeyond]

51. i know.... you, do not have a lot of influence with me. lol

[Marr]

55. Can I take that as a no?

I don't care one bit if I influence you. I was asking if you ever consider the idea that your personal opinions, while valid, may not be 'The Truth', and that others may disagree with those opinions without being wrong.

[LanternWaste]

41. Dieudonné M'bala M'bala agrees wholeheartedly, I would think...

Dieudonné M'bala M'bala agrees wholeheartedly, I would think...

[kelliekat44]

26. PLEASE BRING ON TINA FEY!!! that is all. nt

[Dont call me Shirley]

27. Disappointing Daily Show didn't pick someone with more class than that.

[betterdemsonly]

29. Rosanne has called for unprovoked nuclear strikes on Iran

and UC Davis, which she defends by claiming them jokes?? Why does she get final say on what is tasteless and unacceptable?

BTW she also thinks Obama is being mean to Netanyahu.

[Dreamer Tatum]

31. Funnier than Noah is watching people try to defend this unfunny POS. nt

[WillowTree]

95. ^^ THIS ^^

[Bonx]

32. Good thing I never watched the old daily show

I won't be offended by the new one I'm not watching.

[Cleita]

37. There's a difference between out and out insults and tasteless and/or

gallows humor. If you can't tell the difference, then you shouldn't listen to jokes and other humorous ruminations. Go watch some episodes of "Absolutely Fabulous" where everything and everyone gets insulted and it's very funny. All sacred cows are gored.

[Dreamer Tatum]

44. Especially the fat Jewish lesbian sacred cows, huh? nt

[Cleita]

45. A cow with an ethnic identity and sexual preference.

That would be something. Of course there is always something known as a straw man.

[Dreamer Tatum]

46. Straw man? Did you read his tweets? I'm guessing not. nt

[Cleita]

48. Oh, we're back on topic sort of and not talking about

fat jewish lesbian cows are we? I guess you don't know what a straw man argument is.

[Marr]

38. He's a comedian.

I don't understand people who take offense at comedians. I really don't.

[Dreamer Tatum]

49. In the grand tradition of Andrew Dice Clay, evidently.

Wonder why they didn't choose him.

[one_voice]

50. UGH...ADC...

High & drunk not even a giggle....

[el_bryanto]

59. Besides these tweets what other exposure have you had to Noah's Comedy? nt

[Marr]

70. Zero.

But I've enjoyed a lot of comics that other people took great and public offense at, and I'd never expect one to censor themselves. In my humble opinion, comics engage in the most underappreciated, mentally challenging, potentially soul crushing art form we've got. For a person to expect comics not to offend their sensibilities is one of the most arrogant things I can imagine.

[Dreamer Tatum]

93. Based on those tweets my rectum says funnier things, so none, nor will I.

Funny how DU can have hundreds of threads decrying misogyny and anti-Jew bias, but when the holy Daily Show hires an active practitioner of all those, all is forgiven.

Because it's The Daily Show.

[el_bryanto]

97. So in your opinion - these tweets, which are pretty lousy - are the only relevant

thing that Trevor Noah has ever done. His whole work can be summed down to these tweets and that's all that really matters.

And you are comfortable with that?

Bryant

[Dreamer Tatum]

99. I don't need to taste shit to know I'm not interested in it.

Smelling it will suffice.

[el_bryanto]

100. It must be interesting to live in that world of moral superiority

Where your snap judgements based on limited exposure can tell you everything you need to know about a person. I guess I'm more spineless than you - but I like to know somebody before I condemn them.

Bryant

[Dreamer Tatum]

105. You're right - I do limit my exposure to fat hatred, misogyny, and anti-Jewish bias.

You got me there.

Meanwhile let me hazard a guess how openminded you'd be if this guy was hired for his own Fox News program.

[el_bryanto]

108. Well - I am more aware of his comedy, so I don't think that's very likely

I don't watch the Daily Show either. Catch the clips sometimes on DU or at Salon.

Bryant

[Nuclear Unicorn]

66. "He's a comedian."

Would a person making those statements receive the same indulgence if they were a rap artist or talk show host or CEO? Somehow I doubt it.

I suspect the reason offered would be that comedians are not to be taken seriously. However, if speech is only protected so long as it is not serious then we have found ourselves in a place where speech is not protected at all.

[Marr]

73. CEOs are not performers.

A lot of talk show hosts and rappers DO make offensive remarks in their acts.

It's not that comics shouldn't be taken seriously, per se-- it's that they are entertainers. Can you even imagine standing in front of a crowd and entertaining them with literally nothing but your own words? Can you imagine doing that without offending some of their sensibilities?

[Cleita]

82. Most talk show hosts are offensive. Did you just erase Rush Limbaugh,

Glen Beck, Joe Scar et al from your mind? Most CEOs are offensive to their underlings, especially the women, or have you never worked closely under one? It would help if they were funny instead of just insulting.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

96. On the contrary I'm very aware that there are offensive people prattling off via

whatever medium they have at their disposal. My post asked if only comedians should be indulged with permission to do so.

[alp227]

67. Sorry. Some of what he's saying is the talk that leads to concentration camps.

Guess what? Comedians influence people's minds. I don't want comedians who make bigotry hip.

[el_bryanto]

74. Besides these tweets, what other exposure have you had to Noah's comedy? nt

[alp227]

76. None. Look, ever hear of "first impressions"? Noah's actions reflect poor image management.

Think about it. If I arranged a job interview with you, and you showed up in your pajamas, would I have the best impression of you? No, even if you were a National Honor Society student in high school and have never committed a crime in your life.

[el_bryanto]

78. That's a pretty bad analogy

Trevor Noah didn't highlight these tweets as examples of his comedy. That's not his resume.

This is more like - you are about to interview someone when one of the other interviewees (or your secretary or someone just hanging around) says "Look here's some dumb and racist things this guy has said over the last 5 years." You might ask him about them in the interview, but you wouldn't then assume "Well I guess since he's said a few terrible things, everything he's said is terrible."

Bryant

[arcane1]

80. GMTA

[alp227]

87. Too bad he put those things up in his public twitter feed. He needs to own his words. nt

[el_bryanto]

91. What do you mean by "own his words?" Presumably you mean he should be fired

from the daily show? Or am I misreading you?

Bryant

[alp227]

101. Don't put words in my mouth. I want Noah to have some integrity.

Either apologize for his hateful words or justify them. He shouldn't run away from his own words like a coward.

[el_bryanto]

104. This story broke today i believe - has he had time to run away from his own words?

Or has he run away from his words?

Has he been asked about them and refused to answer?

Bryant

[alp227]

135. He might not have chosen to highlight them. Too bad they were public.

Look. Whatever you post on an open social media account is your face. Whether a celebrity like Noah or an average stiff like us. In the era of social media, those who want to sabotage another's employment prospects now have an easier way to dig up dirt, unlike in the past when it depended on whether an employer would buy into hearsay/gossip.

[el_bryanto]

137. It's a brave new world

Thank goodness there are no shortage of high horses for us to get up on.

Bryant

[alp227]

138. So do you agree or disagree with me regarding public online posts?

Specifically: if you post things publicly online under your full name, do you open yourself to be associated with such words?

[el_bryanto]

139. That's the way things are going.

And not just things said publicly under your own name. As spying tools in the private sector get better and more focused anything you do online will end up as fair game.

And then people can go, select your worst moments, ignore everything else you've done or said, and you are that person.

Those are going to be the rules; and if you don't like them, well, keep your head down. Don't take risks. Don't put yourself out there. Stay small; because the moment you are anything more than small, someone will come along to knock you down to size.

It's going to be great.

Bryant

[alp227]

140. So I take it you disagree.

And are you really equating bigoted jokes with "tak(ing) risks"? Please. Do you really want to equivocate serious, high-minded political dissent with bigoted dehumanization of those at the bottom of the social ladder?

Why can't people take responsibility for their own words instead of blaming greater society for the way they're perceived? Too often, the issue about free speech is framed as blaming society for "poutrage" that ruins people's lives for exercising free speech rather than the speaker rightfully getting flak for being an ass.

[el_bryanto]

141. I agree that that is the reality we live in

I also note that few of the people upset about these tweets are interested in them in the context of his work; that's my issue. It's as if these are the only jokes he's ever told. This is the only part about this man's life that matters.

Bryant

[arcane1]

79. That's an awful analogy. A more accurate one:

would be arranging a job interview, and before you arrive, someone calls the interviewer and tells them everything they don't like about you.

Trevor didn't come out and say "Please look at my most offensive tweets" did he? And some of the ones in the OP have to really be stretched to make them bigoted in any way.

[alp227]

134. Too bad he posted those tweets in public in the first place.

That's far from a situation where a prospective employer hears from a disgruntled ex-associate all sorts of unsubstantiated gossip about me. Noah posted these off color remarks to a public twitter account, so he needs to own his words, otherwise he's a coward without integrity.

[arcane1]

75. "the talk that leads to concentration camps"? Seriously?

Good lord...

[Marr]

121. Whoah, so I guess you aren't a big fan of free speech.

LOTS of talk could be said to 'lead to concentration camps', if that's how you'd classify those tweets.

[alp227]

124. Spare me the lectures about "free speech".

The "free speech" card belongs to the right wing Internet warriors whining on Facebook about A&E suspending the Duck Dynasty star for anti-gay remarks.

My philosophy on comedy? If a joke relies on dehumanizing an entire class of disadvantaged people - whether people of color, rape victims, or those with disabilities - it's hate speech, not comedy. This may sound harsh, but it's true: dehumanization is a stage of genocide.

[Marr]

125. Have you shared your comedy rules with other successful comedians?

I'm sure they'd be very grateful for your guidance.

[alp227]

127. Success is not an indicator of quality.

How do you think "Two and a Half Men" was in production for so long with its cheap sex jokes?

Creative, REAL "boundary pushing" comedians break new ground instead of refining old bigotries used by the worst violators of human rights.

[seabeyond]

129. works for me. i am done with humor to hate on me. fug it. lol.

laugh. lighten up.

no

[ohnoyoudidnt]

128. So is Tosh.

People are expecting a little more than just a comedian to take the reigns of TDS.

[RandiFan1290]

54. Pissing off all the right people!

Great job, Trevor!

So happy to see the trolls whining about this just after hearing Limbaugh's whining

[War Horse]

57. Just watch his shows

Go on YouTube and watch his participation in UK shows. Stephen Fry seems to like him. I've never gotten the adulation. He's a decent if repetetive comedian, yet a charming guy. I'm not his greatest fan, but the attacks on him here seem unwarranted, IMHO.

I suggest folks at least give him a chance.

[Xithras]

58. Any decent comedian is going to have some offensive jokes in their repertoire.

"Sacred cows make the best hamburger" - Abbie Hoffman

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

60. wow..........

seems like maybe he's not the guy after all?

[hollysmom]

61. I guess I must have left my offended gene home today -

the first joke was offensive so that is one and fat white women are the punch line of most comedians, I just don't care as a fat white woman. I don't know who Messi is, so I guess I can't get offended by what I don't understand. as for women being hard to get - is that an insult?

maybe I need to get a bit more into the day, I might still be in my morning everything is good mood.

[alp227]

68. Why are people "babies" for THINKING instead of mindlessly laughing?

Huh? Huh? HUH? HUH? HUH? HUH? HUH? You know what the irony of "comedy has no limits" is? If "everything" were funny, comedy wouldn't be creative. Any joke that dehumanizes an entire class/group of people is not funny. It's incitement of hatred. Period.

[seabeyond]

69. kinda like talking like a little baby, mocking anyone on this thread holding to democratic values.

odd that, isnt it?

[alp227]

103. Android's post was hidden by a 4-3 decision.

Sadly, even DU buys into "being politically incorrect".

[riderinthestorm]

63. I'm glad I don't have teevee and don't watch any of these nt

[el_bryanto]

64. "Dance like no one's watching; tweet like one day you will be held up as the moral authority . . .

of the land." - Kumail Nanjiani

This from a set of tweets on Trevor Noah's offensive tweets by other comedians.

Bryant

[Electric Monk]

83. "The same people who are mad at Trevor Noah would've been upset if he wasn't hired"

"Why can't the Daily Show just hire a post-gendered vegan humanities professor who has never told a joke in its life"

"Trevor Noah can't host a comedy show for telling fat jokes but Mike Pence can govern like a nazi. America : Still Working Out the Kinks"

"By the way, that hitting a Jew with a german car joke would crush at every Passover seder I've ever been to"




Good stuff, thanks for posting that link

[Baitball Blogger]

65. Oh dear.

How humiliating.

[ieoeja]

72. Some of the categorization makes it clear the author didn't get the jokes.

Almost bumped a Jewish kid crossing the road. He didn't look b4 crossing but I still would hav felt so bad in my german car!

This makes fun of Germans, not Jews.

I like women that don't wear make up. For me they're like pizza- still great the next morning!

That is an insult? Reads more like a compliment to natural women to me.

A hot white woman with ass is like a unicorn. Even if you do see one, you'll probably never get to ride it.

This has exactly "what" to do with the LGBT community?

[arcane1]

77. Hey, that rational approach has no place here! We want to be offended!

[one_voice]

94. the last one was my mistake...

I put that one in the wrong spot when I copied...my bad.

[cwydro]

84. I don't even find those "jokes" remotely funny.

Reminds me of that Tosh guy.

Ugh.

[PCIntern]

85. I get his humor: here's a Trevor Noah joke

Trevor Noah takes his girlfriend home and asks her, "Hey Baby, how about a goodnight fuck?

She replies: "Okay...goodnight, fuck."

[Mike Nelson]

86. He's in hot water with me, too...

...especially if these un-funny "jokes" keep turning up...

[Retrograde]

88. Wouldn't it be nice if the media paid this much attention to real issues

like TPP, income disparity, voting rights, climate change, heath care, etc. instead of the host of a show on the Comedy Network (the same network, btw, that airs Tosh.0 and any number of shows some people find offensive).

Not having seen the posts in context, I can't comment.

[tishaLA]

89. Thank Fucking God they didn't hire

Sarah Silverman or Dave Chappelle as host. People would be having cerebral hemorrhages already.

[former9thward]

92. Chris Rock Will Not Tour at Colleges Anymore Because They Don't Want to Offend Anyone

Chris Rock Will Not Tour at Colleges Anymore Because They Don't Want to Offend Anyone

Chris Rock is a comedian who has built his career on addressing controversial topics in his material, which is why he will never perform at a college ever again.

Speaking to New York Magazine, Rock gave his thoughts on Bill Maher's appointment as the winter commencement speaker at UC - Berkeley and the student body's immediate protest. Rock said college's are just too conservative for his jokes to be effective.

"Not in their political views - not like they're voting Republican - but in their social views and their willingness not to offend anybody," Rock told the magazine. "Kids raised on a culture of 'We're not going to keep score in the game because we don't want anybody to lose.' Or just ignoring race to a fault. You can't say 'the black kid over there.' No, it's 'the guy with the red shoes.' You can't even be offensive on your way to being inoffensive."

Maher's appointment was answered with a student-led protest because of jokes he told about the Muslim religion. He responded on his show by echoing similar sentiments to what Rock gave in his interview.

http://www.universityherald.com/articles/13470/20141202/chris-rock-will-not-tour-at-colleges-anymore-because-they-dont-want-to-offend-anyone.htm#ixzz3VzpvPl7i

Given some of the replies in this thread I can see his point.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

111. I know a comedian who won't either

Although in his case the joke that causes certain groups to complain isn't even his, it's just a stupid picture of him circulating on facebook and tumbler with someone else's joke underneath. The joke is also attributed to several British comedians in the same way.

[Prism]

98. Meh. All of us would be crucified in public.

Comb through everything we've ever said, highlight the worst bits, then pretend they're representstive of the whole person.

We're a bored people.

He's a comedian. Sometimes he lays some eggs. They all do.

[merrily]

106. Am I the only one who sees sexism in some of those jokes?

No, I am not. Good.

[Dems to Win]

112. Several links to articles about Trevor and Comedy Central's blooper in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125556143

[Inkfreak]

114. I can see how some of his jokes could be construed as offensive..

And I understand how comedians should not be held to the same standards as others when practicing their craft.


How's that for riding the fence?? I think I may just tear my sack if I sit on it any harder.

[Dreamer Tatum]

118. DU can usually smell misogyny at one part per billion.

Gee, I wonder what's throwing people off the scent...

[Blue_Tires]

119. Damn...

Is this the same DU that was almost unanimous in its support of Charlie Hebdo a couple of months ago?

[pansypoo53219]

120. what bill maher said last week.

[BlueStater]

122. So what?

You can dig into practically anyone's past and find something they did or said that's offensive/controversial. It's impossible to live life with a spotless record. I couldn't care less what he wrote on his Twitter account five years ago.

[Behind the Aegis]

123. Seems some bigotry is OK.

Someone wrote in another thread, tweets aren't really the "stage" for comedy. The problem with the tweets and sometimes even DU, is the set up may or may not be missing and there is where the intent lies. His follow-up tweet about the "rich Jews" though demonstrates he at least harbors some anti-Semitic issues. His being 1/4 Jewish is irrelevant.

[seabeyond]

130. seems like mommy issues to me. seriously. and hey, if you are going to publicly play it out....

expect people to point the finger and laugh right back atcha.

[Man from Pickens]

126. none of that would be a problem

if any of it were actually funny

[ohnoyoudidnt]

132. TDS writers can help with that, but is Noah smart

enough to interview politicians and other high-level figures the way Jon did? Time will tell.

[Man from Pickens]

133. Probably not

if he's telling really horrible "jokes" that are basically bigoted slams and thinking they are funny

[Tuesday Afternoon]

136. ....