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The following survey is aimed towards two things: providing some insight into how various DU community members feel about Hillary Clinton, and moving our discussions in a more positive direction. It is not intended as my advocating, either for or against, Hillary Clinton Responses are, however, an opportunity to express your thoughts, and to advocate for your position in a positive manner.
There are no right or wrong answers. The percentages for or against Hillary Clinton -- or undecided -- are not intended to illustrate anything but the values of this community. It is not necessary to answer every question; only the ones that may interest you.
Assuming that anyone does respond, I only ask that we treat everyone with respect. A person might have very different views on the state of our nation, and what is required to remedy the problems we may see. At best, this could provide us an opportunity to present our position as a clean, sparkling glass of cold water; even if we view opposing views, and view others as having a filthy, polluted glass of water, we need not attack theirs. Trust thirsty people to be capable of deciding for themselves what glass they prefer to drink from.
Thanks! -- H2O Man
[1] Do you support Hillary Clinton? Yes - no - undecided
[2] Who do you think would present the toughest potential opposition in a Democratic primary? Why?
[3] Who do you think Hillary Clinton would defeat most easily in a general election? Why? Jeb Bush - Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
[4] Which one would present the greatest challenge? Why? Jeb Bus -- Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
[5] On a scales of 1 to 10, how strongly do you support/ oppose Hillary Clintons positions, as you understand them, on foreign policy? With 1 being strongly opposed; 5 being unsure; and 10 being strongly support?
[6] On economic policy? Same 1 to 10 scale.
[7] On social policy? Same scale.
[8] Which candidate did you most strongly support in the 2008 Democratic Party primaries?
[9] Is the potential for Hillary Clinton to be the first female President of the United States important to you?
[10] In your opinion, is having a female President important for the Democratic Party? For the United States of America? Why, or why not?
The End
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Of course, it would be historical.
Edit to correct the 2008 primary vote. I answered to quickly before carefully reading.
Do you support Hillary Clinton? NO
Who do you think would present the toughest potential opposition in a Democratic primary? Why? Opposition to HRC? Probably Warren. I'd like to see Feingold take her on, myself. Either, and there are a few more out there as well, would energize the non-centrist/neo-liberal/3rd way wing of the party.
Who do you think Hillary Clinton would defeat most easily in a general election? Why? I have no strong opinion. I think a good campaign by the nominee, whomever that turns out to be, beats any of the three. I have no investment in seeing HRC do so.
Which one would present the greatest challenge? Why? See the previous answer.
On a scales of 1 to 10, how strongly do you support/ oppose Hillary Clintons positions, as you understand them, on foreign policy? 1
On economic policy? 1
On social policy? 5
Which candidate did you most strongly support in the 2008 Democratic Party primaries? Dennis Kucinich...of course, by the time my primary rolled around in late May, he was long gone, and I supported neither of the two left standing. In the end, I gave HRC my vote. Not because I supported her; it was a protest vote, as I knew which way my state would roll and who was getting the nomination.
Is the potential for Hillary Clinton to be the first female President of the United States important to you? No. The potential for her to continue destructive neo-liberal policy is important to me.
In your opinion, is having a female President important for the Democratic Party? For the United States of America? Why, or why not? YES, and YES. At least, a left-of-center female who is not a neo-liberal. Why? Women's issues seem to be losing ground. Putting a woman in the WH is a chance to move them forward.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)1- undecided
2- Possibly VP Joseph Biden. Though it can be hard to sell a "third term," he is a capable politician.
3- Scott Walker
4- Jeb Bush; the mere thought of him or Paul in the Oval Office is ugly
5- 5 (some good, some not good)
6- 4
7- 8
8- Barack Obama
9- Yes, it is definitely an issue, though not "the" issue
10- Yes and Yes. I guess that I may be able to communicate this best, by saying that I have two daughters. And I have two sons. And I tend to view most things through a modified "family systems" lens.
In the almost six months since my cousin and his son were shot -- the son killed -- in an unprovoked incident of "road rage" on the part of an off-duty cop, I've been thinking in extended family terms. All four of my children have provided consistent and solid support to members of the extended family crushed by this incident.
Recently, my cousin has told me how impressed our family's Elders are with my kids. They recognize that each of the four has their own unique, valued identity. These Elders have known my kids mainly in good times before; now they seen their strength in times of tragedy and suffering.
What's more, this has provided life experience to my children. They've gotten to witness the strength of this side of my family in very difficult times. And that has included finding out just how tough and intelligent, and kind and thoughtful, both the male and female Elders are. I want my children exposed to that strength, and I do not want my daughters' options ever lowered because they are female.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...support in primaries, no; general election, hell yes.
toughest opponent, I dunno; smartest, Sanders
easiest defeated?, Walker, because he has the most built-in self-destruct positions of the trio mentioned.
jeb presents the best challenge, because, after contentious primaries, he has the electability factor for republicans; much like Romney did. That staying power makes him her most persistent rival, thus the biggest challenge.
I give Hillary Clinton an unsure rating on 'foreign policy;' separate from military policy which I rate at the very bottom of the scale because of her PNAC-like, Israel-centric approach which puts the US at odds with a wide variety of our government's present military targets/rivals.
Economic policy earns her another unsure in my book, separating social economics which I give her a 6, from fiscal policy which I give her a 7. Economics tends to separate itself from actual kitchen-table benefits which presents a factor of uncertainty, no matter how she performs.
Social policy is her strongest suit, with a solid 10.
Hillary was my fourth choice in 2008.
Her gender presents my strongest point of defense for her, but not an overriding priority. I have a strong sense of what a female president will mean to many, many women and I'm completely open and engaged on that point, however, I know that I can't completely quantify that prospect in my own male estimation.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)No: Do you support Hillary Clinton? Yes - no - undecided
Warren, she is passionate about the right things, appeals to a huge demographic's long term interests, can win the primary and general on merits alone. Who do you think would present the toughest potential opposition in a Democratic primary? Why?
Tough one, each has different weaknesses against HRC, maybe Walker because he isn't a Bush and has some easy-to-exploit baggage. Who do you think Hillary Clinton would defeat most easily in a general election? Why? Jeb Bush - Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
Rand Paul might impress a new demographic looking for a revolution, one that reject both parties. Which one would present the greatest challenge? Why? Jeb Bush -- Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
2- I find her foreign policy positions and actions stale and uninspired. On a scales of 1 to 10, how strongly do you support/ oppose Hillary Clintons positions, as you understand them, on foreign policy? With 1 being strongly opposed; 5 being unsure; and 10 being strongly support?
1- She's been pretty quiet lately but I expect that she'll support shortsighted trickle down economic policies, not sustainable long-term ones. On economic policy? Same 1 to 10 scale.
1- She picks the low-hanging fruit, obvious issues to support, but fails miserably on the economic side which is, after all, the social side when it comes to low and middle income earners. On social policy? Same scale.
Barack Obama: Which candidate did you most strongly support in the 2008 Democratic Party primaries?
No, I think it would be like having Herman Cain be the first AA president. Is the potential for Hillary Clinton to be the first female President of the United States important to you?
Yes, absolutely. It only helps our party if she's a genuine champion for our ideals and our future. What helps us helps the US, and it's way past time that women are equally represented at every station in politics, business, etc. I would expect a woman might even be more well suited to the role. In your opinion, is having a female President important for the Democratic Party? For the United States of America? Why, or why not?
I'm clearly not a big fan of the Clintons, and less so with a candidate like Warren in the field of view.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Do you support Hillary Clinton? Yes - no - undecided
undecided
Who do you think would present the toughest potential opposition in a Democratic primary? Why?
Elizabeth Warren, because she speaks to the economic issues more forcefully and should be more trusted because of her track record in opposing big banks and Wall Street criminality.
Who do you think Hillary Clinton would defeat most easily in a general election? Why? Jeb Bush - Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
Rand Paul because he's a racist whacko.
Which one would present the greatest challenge? Why? Jeb Bus -- Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
Jeb Bush because the American populace is really stupid.
On a scales of 1 to 10, how strongly do you support/ oppose Hillary Clintons positions, as you understand them, on foreign policy? With 1 being strongly opposed; 5 being unsure; and 10 being strongly support?
3 (I think she did well as Secretary State but I vehemently oppose her Iraq War vote and think she is too hawkish) Republicans I'd put at 1.
On economic policy? Same 1 to 10 scale.
3 (I think she should be much stronger on taxing the 1%) Republicans I'd put at 1.
On social policy? Same scale.
6 I think she's good on many social policy issues but I want to see her more strongly support public education, particularly student loan reduction or forgiveness.
Which candidate did you most strongly support in the 2008 Democratic Party primaries?
Barack Obama
Is the potential for Hillary Clinton to be the first female President of the United States important to you?
Yes.
In your opinion, is having a female President important for the Democratic Party? For the United States of America? Why, or why not?
Yes, and it should be a Democrat because women support the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party supports women.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I appreciate your help in keeping this OP/thread where others might see it.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Yes
Warren would be the toughest opposition
Hillary would most easily beat Rand cuz he is considered to be a nut.
Jeb would be the toughest opponent cuz he's got the money
I supported Obama on 08
8
8
10
Hillary
Yes
Yes.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)Do you support Hillary Clinton? She is not my choice for the Democratic nominee, nor President.
Who do you think would present the toughest potential opposition in a Democratic primary? Warren -- if she were running -- would provide the toughest challenge. Her stand against Wall Street is the anti-Hillary move and it resonates deeply with Americans who have been left out of the recovery. Warren could make this an election about the domestic situation.
Who do you think Hillary Clinton would defeat most easily in a general election? She beats everyone but Bush or Christie.
Which one would present the greatest challenge? Why? Jeb Bush wins against Hillary, period. She is very polarizing with some not insignificant negatives and there are enough conservative Dems who would feel totally comfortable voting for Jeb -- he is "moderate" enough to really pull the "middle".
On a scales of 1 to 10, how strongly do you support/ oppose Hillary Clintons positions, as you understand them, on foreign policy? 3
On economic policy? 3
On social policy? 8
Which candidate did you most strongly support in the 2008 Democratic Party primaries? The Kuch
Is the potential for Hillary Clinton to be the first female President of the United States important to you? Do I want a woman to be President? Yes! Is it important to me that Clinton be the first? Not at all. (I am female)
In your opinion, is having a female President important for the Democratic Party? For the United States of America? Why, or why not? Having the RIGHT President is more important than any other factor to me. End of story.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)No, don't support
Elizabeth Warren is the only credible challenger and she isn't running. She provides a strong contrast to Hillary on economic issues.
Rand Paul. He's horrible in front of the press and thus the public and he has a treasure trove of nuttiness to be mined.
It's a 2 or a 3.
Same
7 or 8 on social issues
Obama
yes, somewhat
Yes, it opens the party up insofar as inclusiveness goes.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Do you support Hillary Clinton? Yes - no - undecided
Undecided.
Who do you think would present the toughest potential opposition in a Democratic primary? Why?
Warren. Assuming she doesn't run I'll throw in Sherrod Brown and Al Franken based on their fund raising potential. That sadly is an important factor.
Who do you think Hillary Clinton would defeat most easily in a general election? Why? Jeb Bush - Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
Carson and Cruz - fucking jokes the two of them.
Which one would present the greatest challenge? Why? Jeb Bus -- Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
I wouldn't sleep on Walker. Bush will be able to outraise Walker but I think he'll be a drag in the general. Rubio is the dark horse.
On a scales of 1 to 10, how strongly do you support/ oppose Hillary Clintons positions, as you understand them, on foreign policy? With 1 being strongly opposed; 5 being unsure; and 10 being strongly support?
2. Her time as SOS showed she won't just talk up being a hawk.
On economic policy? Same 1 to 10 scale.
5. Let's see what she rolls out. If it's a combination of tax credits that's "aimed" at the middle class I'll be unimpressed. It will help people in the upper middle class who already know how to use every loophole provided to plan financially.
On social policy? Same scale.
10.
Which candidate did you most strongly support in the 2008 Democratic Party primaries?
Obama
Is the potential for Hillary Clinton to be the first female President of the United States important to you?
No.
In your opinion, is having a female President important for the Democratic Party? For the United States of America? Why, or why not?
Yes. Dems should always strive to look like the country it represents. It also would excite the base and some indies and R's. It's important for the US as well but would be a disaster if a Palin or Fiorina were to win.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)No! Waiting for the rest of the Dem field to announce.
2) Who do you think would present the toughest potential opposition in a Democratic primary? Why?
Warren, Sanders, Sherod Brown, Russ Feingold, Barbara Lee, (a woman and right on almost all the Dem issues)
3) Who do you think Hillary Clinton would defeat most easily in a general election? Why? Jeb Bush - Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
Rand Paul, he won't have the RNC machine behind him as enthusiastically as would be needed to win. And he isn't popular with some Republican Demographics.
4) Which one would present the greatest challenge? Why? Jeb Bus -- Scott Walker -- Rand Paul
Bush, whether they want him or not now, the Bush Political Machine will do whatever it takes to win. Cheat, pay offs, vote suppression and the legal tangling if necessary, etc. Iow, by any means necessary.
5) On a scales of 1 to 10, how strongly do you support/ oppose Hillary Clintons positions, as you understand them, on foreign policy? With 1 being strongly opposed; 5 being unsure; and 10 being strongly support?
1/One: I don't support neocon/neoliberal FPs. We have now seen how disastrous they are.
6) On economic policy? Same 1 to 10 scale.
1/One: Same reasons as FP. Neoliberal Economic policies are a disaster, see the Global Crash in 2008 and 'Austerity' as a 'solution'.
7) On social policy? Same scale.
5/Five: Don't know if she supports eg, the Chained CPI/Cuts to SS, Welfare etc. On equal rights for minorities, she's a Democrat so five for that.
8) Which candidate did you most strongly support in the 2008 Democratic Party primaries?
Anyone who did not vote for the Iraq War initially, Kucinich eg. Obama in the primaries and general.
9) Is the potential for Hillary Clinton to be the first female President of the United States important to you?
Yes, I would prefer that the first representative of the kind of leader a woman could be as President, to be someone like Barbara Lee, Warren or someone who is not pro-war, pro-wall st. War & Wall St are very bad for women.
10) In your opinion, is having a female President important for the Democratic Party? For the United States of America? Why, or why not?
Not so important that it is worth ignoring their policies for. But it's past time for this country to catch up with the rest of the world when it comes to women leaders. The first woman needs to be a true Progressive FDR/Dem. Strong, courageous, will to fight Wall St and the MIC when necessary. FDR eg, is still at the top of the list of most popular presidents. The first woman needs to be of that caliber.