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[blm]

1. Obama is crushing the movement by accurately observing THIS GOPcontrolled congress?

Perhaps you read this congress differently?

Perhaps you think RW propagandists like Sean Williams are accurate commentators?

[blm]

7. How do YOU read the GOP controlled congress's role in the future legislation

regarding marijuana?

Or is it more important to you to keep pretending that Obama somehow controls the legislation and is lying when he states that he does not foresee THIS congress offering any changes?

Your overthetop reach to spin the statement as you did can be crushing to your…... movement.

Rand2016: DesperateDeceitsforDummies

[blm]

12. LOL - Have you explained why RW propagandists like Sean Williams inform your

views?

I think what Obama said there doesn't matter one bit to any legislation congress has in store for marijuana - why do YOU and Sean Williams need to pretend the statement is 'crushing' to the movement?

Rand2016: DesperateDeceitforDummies

[blm]

18. His statement doesn't mean anything to legislation. Why so anxious to pretend you aren't

pushing Sean Williams RW propaganda here in order to attach lack of future legislation on marijuana on the WH instead of GOP congress?

Demanding answers when you refuse to answer every question posed to you? Hmmm….how do you think that appears to others?

His statement is simple and doesn't need explanation. There is no misinterpreting it unless you hang your hat on the spin from a RW propagandist like Sean Willliams - as you do.

[DeSwiss]

35. !

[haikugal]

11. He's not leading...so he believes the BS now that he's a parent..who know.

But he's NOT leading.

[blm]

19. So you want to stand with the overthetop headline he CRUSHED the movement?

Go ahead. Follow the RW propagandist, Sean Williams right where he wants to lead you.

Rand2016: DesperateDeceit4Dummies

[haikugal]

26. No. He could lead but he's really not that interested.

He has a trade agreement to push..and the pharmaceutical industry is probably against it. I don't follow propagandists and have never heard of the guy.

[blm]

41. I do follow RW propagandists and know exactly what Williams is doing here

in this overwrought article misdirecting the readers on this issue.

[blm]

44. He has made supportive statements. He'll make more in future -

but, his accurate observation that this congress is very unlikely to take up any legislation on marijuana is not the crushing blow to the movement that the Rand2016 propagandists want the left to think.

[treestar]

25. Why bother to "lead" on something that's not going to be happening?

He would have enough to do with his time to consider that issue not worth his time.

[blm]

56. Obama is speaking supportively of it in the CNN report tonight.

Perhaps that is why the spin from RW propagandists is being pushed today at Dem sites. Hoping to frame the debate.

[cascadiance]

2. Another reason that I support this pair as our candidates for 2016...

http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2014/10/marijuana_news_us_sen_jeff_mer.html

America needs new leadership to finally move us in to the 21st century that the people will want!

Nice story the day before 4/20.

[Arugula Latte]

5. Love my Senator Jeff!

[liberal_at_heart]

3. "Mr President you were a pot smoker your self." That was then. He was also a

community organizer back then too. Now he is a DC insider listening to all the power brokers whispering in his ear rather than listening to the people.

[polichick]

6. Ex-pot smoker/current big pharma rep.

[Enrique]

9. the marijuana movement never depended on Obama

thus, the movement is not crushed.

[haikugal]

13. Well done.

[liberal_at_heart]

24. No it doesn't crush it. It just slows the momentum a bit. Congress is starting to talk about

reclassifying it and legalizing medical marijuana. Statements like this from Obama or from any politician doesn't help speed the momentum any. And unfortunately for those of us dealing with this at a state level we are dealing with capitalists trying to force patients buy from the recreational businesses rather than medical coops or dispensaries. Of course no matter what happens at the political level there will always be people growing and using marijuana. Nothing they have done so far in the past decades has stopped it, and they certainly are not going to stop it now or in the future either.

[blm]

15. The poster's source is Sean Williams - a RW, pro-fascist propagandist

The point is to make an overwrought headline and shift all responsibility for marijuana legislation onto Obama and away from Republican Congress.

Rand2016: DeceptionIsAllTheyGot

[haikugal]

28. Oh now I see..thx

Not that it changes anything, but information is valuable.

[blm]

30. Sean Williams knows that, but, his job is to craft propaganda to blame Obama

for issues like this in order to shift the responsibility away from the Republican congress who will actually control any legislation regarding the issue.

Rand2016

[treestar]

57. Exactly.

Thanks, Obama.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

10. Which part of his statement do you think is incorrect?

There is virtually no chance of a GOP controlled congress changing the law on Marijuana, and virtually no chance of the Democrats retaking congress before 2020; even if after that point the Democrats do retake congress the law is unlikely to change soon, albeit less so than with the GOP in charge.

President Obama's summary strikes me as essentially accurate.

[msanthrope]

20. Yes......this will be the main argument that will be raised in any legal

challenges. It's best to be prepared to answer that challenge.

[blm]

27. Why do you and RW propagandist Sean Williams see that statement as the crushing blow

to the movement?

LOLOLOL

Rand2016: BecauseDeceitIsAllWeGot

[blm]

32. Yes - Because you refused to answer any questions posed while demanding

answers yourself. What should one think about that?

Or…perhaps you CAN'T explain away why you hung your hat on the words of a RW propagandist like Sean Williams?

[Warren Stupidity]

34. The danger of increased addiction and crime part.

[blm]

39. That is something the states are monitoring now.

That is exactly what congress will demand if they ever do address it legislatively, so why is it crushing to the movement to accurately state what he expects of this congress?

I am surprised at any weight being given to that overwrought headline and spin from Sean Williams.

[Warren Stupidity]

45. Regurgitating the inane rhetoric of the failed war on drugs is something I disagree

with. It was a response to a question asked.

[blm]

47. Just important to know the RW source who omitted the full statements

and more pro-marijuana statements offered by Obama that will be part of the Weed3 report tonight on CNN.

Utter Horseshit: 'crushing blow to movement'

[MineralMan]

21. Republicans are in the majority in both houses of Congress.

What else can Obama say. He has nothing to do with laws created by Congress, and almost no influence with the current Congress.

[treestar]

22. He is simply stating reality

This Republican Congress is not going to decriminalize marijuana. And therefore, since this is Obama's last Congress, there's no reason for him to concern himself with this issue.

If people had got out in 2014 and got a Congress that would pass a bill - he did not say he would veto it.

[Everett Walker]

23. Makes no difference

When the States legalized Marijuana in spite of the Federal Narcotics Act (s), It presented a challenge to the supremacy language in the Constitution. The prevailing national regime, sympathetic to drug use, and unsympathetic to the cross-20th Century "War On Drugs" chose to stand serenely by and decline enforcement. Therefore, several states have successfully nullified Federal law in reference to drugs-other regional issues to follow. It will likely prove safe for financial institutions both in-country and international to make loans to the Industry.

[AtomicKitten]

31. 4/19/15: Obama Voices Support for Medical Marijuana in Cable News Interview

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/04/19/obama_voices_support_for_medical_marijuana_in_cable_news_interview.html

Excerpt:

"You know, I think I'd have to take a look at the details, but I'm on record as saying that not only do I think carefully prescribed medical use of marijuana may in fact be appropriate and we should follow the science as opposed to ideology on this issue, but I'm also on record as saying that the more we treat some of these issues related to drug abuse from a public health model and not just from an incarceration model, the better off we're going to be."

[blm]

36. Funny - RW propagandist Sean Williams has a completely different spin.

Go figure.

Gee - wonder why any Dem here at DU would pretend that Sean Williams' spin is an exercise in accuracy? ; )

Rand2016: BecauseTheyThinkDUcanBeFooledIntoSupportingRand

[AtomicKitten]

37. The Paul folk are a wily bunch. ;)

[blm]

42. Please post that as an OP to counter the RW propaganda being pushed here by NET.

.

[AtomicKitten]

43. Okay. Will do.

[JaneyVee]

33. Obama to address Nation on support of medical marijuana.

[PeteSelman]

38. The addiction and crimes horseshit is the problem.

He could simply have said that because of the Congress that we have, the federal law isn't going to change anytime soon. There was absolutely no need to bring in the ridiculous propaganda of addiction and increased crime because of marijuana.

[Bjorn Against]

40. The fact he is even acknowledging a debate is significant

The last President that even suggested there should be a debate on legalization was Jimmy Carter.

While Obama's statement is weak by our standards, we should recognize that it is very significant that a President is encouraging any sort of debate on this issue. Other recent Presidents acted as if the pro-drug war side was the only side that should be heard.

[sufrommich]

46. I don't disagree with him,I don't expect a federal law

anytime soon. I do expect a stampede of states passing similar laws to Colorado's law as the massive tax dollars start rolling in.

[cherokeeprogressive]

48. What. Ever. Nothing PO or AG Holder can say or do will change the reality that I can get...

as much weed, blow, meth, or prescription narcotics as I want, whenever I want it. Whenever I want it. With ZERO chance of getting busted. ZERO chance. 24/7.

That's the weirdest part of the whole war on drugs bullshit. People who SHOULD BE smart enough to understand their actions are having ZERO IMPACT simply aren't. They just keep pointing the Money Gun at their perceived "drug problem" and pulling the trigger.

Why is it possible for me to get any drug I might want, whenever I might want it? Yup. I'm white.

[blm]

49. Did you MEAN to post a RW propaganda piece?

Or are you merely an unwitting victim fooled into believing the source was legitimate reporting?

[truedelphi]

53. Snarfle, schnarfle, schnarfle.

The Centrist Dems running this country into a corporate-owned fascistic state should be hanging their heads, and people on DU should be applauding those of us who are trying to reform the Party before most young people and small business owners go libertarian.

[blm]

54. Swallowing pro-fascist propaganda should be avoided.

Thanks, blm, for the heads up about Sean Willliams who HATES progressive policies.

[Cerridwen]

50. Link to the full speech:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/04/09/remarks-president-obama-town-hall-young-leaders-americas

There’s then the second issue of legalizing marijuana, whether it’s medical marijuana or recreational use. There are two states in the United States that have embarked on an experiment to decriminalize or legalize marijuana -- Colorado and Washington State. And we will see how that experiment works its way through the process.

Right now, that is not federal policy, and I do not foresee anytime soon Congress changing the law at a national basis. But I do think that if there are states that show that they are not suddenly a magnet for additional crime, that they have a strong enough public health infrastructure to push against the potential of increased addiction, then it’s conceivable that that will spur on a national debate. But that is going to be some time off.

And then the third issue is what will U.S. international policy be. And we had some discussion with the CARICOM countries about this. I know on paper a lot of folks think, you know what, if we just legalize marijuana, then it’ll reduce the money flowing into the transnational drug trade, there are more revenues and jobs created.

I have to tell you that it’s not a silver bullet, because, first of all, if you are legalizing marijuana, then how do you deal with other drugs, and where do you draw the line? Second of all, as is true in the global economy generally, if you have a bunch of small medium-sized marijuana businesses scattered across the Caribbean and this is suddenly legal, if you think that big multi-national companies are not going to suddenly come in and market and try to control and profit from the trade -- that’s I think a very real scenario.

Much more at link.

[truedelphi]

51. Obama has the power to put in an Attorney General who could immediately

remove marijuana from the drug schedule, or at least take it off being Schedule One.

He is trying to attempt to shift blame to Congress, knowing that most Congressional members are owned outright by Big Pharma and Big Prison industries, and will not support cannabis legalization.

[liberal_at_heart]

58. exactly. Actions speak louder than words.

[Go Vols]

59. +1

[fredamae]

52. Matters of Cannabis are Not Partisan

so, sorry, we can't blame just the GOP on this...it's the Corporatists on Both sides that are doing this because they seek to protect the money for:
Big Pharma
Beer/Wine/Spirits
LEO's
Private Prison Industry
Drug Treatment Facilities
Big Oil (Hemp etc)
etc, etc, etc,
This plant and it's cousin, Industrial Hemp is Drought Tolerant, Renewable, and provides Food, Medicine, Fuel, and Paper and So much more...Especially Jobs!.
Which industries might oppose any progress because of a Loss of Profit?

[AuntPatsy]

55. Oops

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026533754

[randome]

61. How inconvenient to the crushing-ness that is Obama!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

[zappaman]

60. Nice try!

[jwirr]

62. Crushes the movement? He has a R congress he needs to get through to change anything.

[hifiguy]

63. The prison-industrial complex is highly profitable

and we wouldn't want to do anything "bad for business" would we?