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special diets dont work. I am not fat shaming (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 OP
Low carb, high quality fats and protein, and exercise works wonders. tridim Apr 2015 #1
Bless his heart. Lunabell Apr 2015 #2
from 500 to 200! Good for you. Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #7
It's not true that diets don't work. SheilaT Apr 2015 #3
I eat normal amounts of food now. Lunabell Apr 2015 #13
Currently under the care of a bariatric physician myself. Butterbean Apr 2015 #4
Congrats on your weight loss. Staying away from special starvation diets is the key. Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #6
I agree. Starvation is just a surefire recipe for a binge and setting yourself up for failure. n/t Butterbean Apr 2015 #9
I think a big problem is that some people do not expect to have to change their "diet" permanently. djean111 Apr 2015 #5
I'm overweight and can definitely confirm this. Initech Apr 2015 #8
Jonah Hill is now the whale of Wall Street - according to the headline at the link. DawgHouse Apr 2015 #10
I didn't put the headline in my OP. Point is that even high paid celebrities Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #11
Jonah Hill seems to be the latest version of John Candy - his weight is his schtick riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #12
Schtick? Lunabell Apr 2015 #14
If you read the article in the OP, they theorize the weight gain is for a movie riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #15
Hmm Lunabell Apr 2015 #16
I had artificially induced anorexia for a month daredtowork Apr 2015 #17
The old food pyramid always worked fine for me bhikkhu Apr 2015 #18
Special diets ignore the most important thing: calories. Oneironaut Apr 2015 #19
Exercise. cwydro Apr 2015 #20

tridim

(45,358 posts)
1. Low carb, high quality fats and protein, and exercise works wonders.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:57 PM
Apr 2015

It's not all that special or unusual, it's just not the S.A.D.

Jonah should give it a go if he really wants to lose weight AND be healthy.

Lunabell

(6,012 posts)
2. Bless his heart.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:00 PM
Apr 2015

And you are right. Diets don't work. I used to weigh 500 lbs. Tried EVERYTHING. I was literally hungry ALL THE TIME. Not just snacking and not exercising either. Did yoga and other ways to stay as fit as possible at 500 lbs. Seriously though, i could eat a full meal and be sooo hungry an hour later.

Finally got gastric bypass and lost almost 300 pounds. I am healthy and fit now. Still a big woman. Probably have 30 pounds of just skin that I will never lose. (can't afford the surgery and I doubt I would do it anyway. Vanity is not my thing) But have no high Blood pressure, no diabetes and no high cholesterol. Gastric bypass saved my life.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. It's not true that diets don't work.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:29 PM
Apr 2015

They do. Not every diet for every person, that's for certain.

The reason gastric bypass is so successful is that it makes it impossible to eat a lot of food any more. Less food in is the miracle.

I am saying this as yet another person who weighs more than I should or want to. When I eat less I can lose weight. Which is not to say that someone who undergoes gastric bypass has taken the easy way out. Far from it. Gastric bypass surgery is a genuine life saver for many people.

Lunabell

(6,012 posts)
13. I eat normal amounts of food now.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:14 PM
Apr 2015

And never have that "starving" feeling. I think it altered the nerve pathways to my brain. I would feel full, but would literally be feeling hurting hunger pains an hour after a full meal. Before surgery, I tried eating what was "normal" portions. Oh, I lost weight, but felt so hungry all the time. Like I said, I think the surgery altered my nerve pathways to my brain.

Butterbean

(1,014 posts)
4. Currently under the care of a bariatric physician myself.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:34 PM
Apr 2015

Not large enough for surgery, no comorbidities, but I was finally ready to lose weight, so I decided to seek medical advice and assistance. Plus, being held accountable to a physician keeps me "on the wagon" so to speak. He espouses the Eating for Life diet, which is basically, eat what you want, but in the right portions and in the right balance, and don't eat 3 large meals a day (5-6 smalls instead). It also espouses "cheat days" once a week so that you don't binge. I'm down 17 lbs. so far and feel in control finally. It's interesting.

No drugs, no special food, just me, learning how to eat and learning what is a healthy portion and a healthy food and what isn't. Plus exercise of course.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. I think a big problem is that some people do not expect to have to change their "diet" permanently.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:45 PM
Apr 2015

Diet = WHAT YOU EAT - simple as that.

It is pretty dumb to think you can just go back to eating the way that made you fat in the first damned place.

Atkins-type diet works best for me. Almost 70, low cholesterol, no sign of diabetes, low blood pressure.
And if I was given the chance, I would cover all of my low-carb meat and veggies with Hollandaise sauce.
If Ben and Jerry made Hollandaise ice cream - I would put Hollandaise on that, too. Maybe Bearnaise.

Initech

(99,991 posts)
8. I'm overweight and can definitely confirm this.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

Special diets are, quite frankly, bullshit. High exercise doesn't work either unless you have a complimentary diet. And Lewis Black is right - what works for one person might kill the person sitting next to you. We are all snowflakes. What does work is low calorie, no sugar, portion control and moderate exercise. But when you find something that works you have to stick with it.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
10. Jonah Hill is now the whale of Wall Street - according to the headline at the link.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:45 PM
Apr 2015

Sounds like fat shaming to me.

JMHO

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
11. I didn't put the headline in my OP. Point is that even high paid celebrities
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:49 PM
Apr 2015

can't keep the weight off using fad / fast diets.

Lunabell

(6,012 posts)
14. Schtick?
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:17 PM
Apr 2015

Being morbidly obese isn't schtick. It is a combination of a lot of things. Genetics. Metabolism. Simply not moving enough. It is a health issue. Body image issue. I doubt very seriously he is doing it for his career.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
15. If you read the article in the OP, they theorize the weight gain is for a movie
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:22 PM
Apr 2015

plenty of Hollywood actors and actresses have gained (and lost) tremendous amounts of weight for their job.

Jonah Hill keeps getting cast as a pudgy sidekick as far as I can tell. You and I may not think that's a wise career move but there's certainly big men and women who have found Hollywood success that way.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
17. I had artificially induced anorexia for a month
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:43 PM
Apr 2015

Don't ask me the exact formula for what caused it - I would be a gazillionaire if I could repeat the exact experience. I do try from time to time.

But ever since that happened to me I've tuned out all the punditry about diets. I know that the normal state of people is to get hungry and feel deprived/wrong if they don't eat. But there is some switch you can flip so that:
A) You're not hungry.
B) You feel full.
C) Your tastes change so that you don't desire the usual culprits in a bad diet: coffee (suddenly too bitter), salt, rich fats.

All I could eat for almost 2 months was jook (Chinese rice gruel) and California rolls. Bland rice.

I lost weight, but not a lot because I wasn't trying to lose weight: I was trying to eat a lot of rice because I realized that this must be what anorexia is.

I'm not sure how I turned the switch off, but I turned it back on by drinking coffee. I had been trying to give up coffee because it was supposedly causing acid reflux. But after so many years of being a coffee drinker, I think my digestion was dependent on it. Even though it tasted wrong, soon after I started drinking coffee again, the "switch" came on and my hunger/taste pattern returned to normal.

I did try quitting coffee again and taking antacids to see if I could re-trigger an anorexic state, but it didn't work. There must have been another factor, but I don't know what it was.

Anyway, this was a real eye opener about the nature of "will power" vs. how a person's body (metabolism?) works.

bhikkhu

(10,710 posts)
18. The old food pyramid always worked fine for me
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:51 PM
Apr 2015

carbs in moderation, protein in moderation, fats in moderation, and variety. That's the basic simple diet I've always followed. I put on two inches in waist size since I was a teenager, but I've weighed about the same for 30 years now.

One of the things that helps me is that I really don't like the feeling of being full. I'd rather eat two or three reasonable meals a day and feel comfortable than eat too much and feel full.

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