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marmar

(77,084 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 10:28 PM Jun 2015

Bill Moyers: "But if Senator Sanders is a crackpot, so are the majority of Americans."


Turn Left on Main Street

Thursday, 04 June 2015 10:23
By Bill Moyers and Michael Winship, Moyers & Company | Op-Ed


Congressman John K. Delaney, what the hell are you talking about?

In a recent Washington Post op-ed piece, headlined, "The last thing America needs? A left-wing version of the Tea Party," the Democratic congressman from Maryland scolds progressives and expresses his worry "about where some of the loudest voices in the room could take the Democratic Party."

He writes, "Rejecting a trade agreement with Asia, expanding entitlement programs that crowd out other priorities and a desire to relitigate the financial crisis are becoming dominant positions among Democrats. Although these subjects may make for good partisan talking points, they do not provide the building blocks for a positive and bold agenda to create jobs and improve the lives of Americans."

Rep. Delaney even implies that a freewheeling, open discussion of "these subjects" could lead to the election of a Republican president.

Good grief, John. A trade agreement that favors multinational corporations over working people? Cutting "entitlement programs" such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, worker's compensation? Letting Wall Street off the hook for crashing the economy and costing millions of Americans their jobs and homes? These are Republican policies, bought and paid for by plutocrats. If Democrats simply mimic them, there would be no need to bother with voting for a Republican president; we could cancel the election and put the billions saved in campaign contributions straight into the Clinton Foundation. ...................(more)

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/31179-turn-left-on-main-street




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Bill Moyers: "But if Senator Sanders is a crackpot, so are the majority of Americans." (Original Post) marmar Jun 2015 OP
What else would you expect from a guy like this? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #1
K&R..... daleanime Jun 2015 #2
I see his point HassleCat Jun 2015 #3
+1 Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #4
Double +1 for this post. n/t SpankMe Jun 2015 #6
Yes, and the sooner he is left behind, the better. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #7
I would go even farther and say he is not being left behind, but actively standing in the way. corkhead Jun 2015 #11
A hearty agreement with both of you. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #14
Well said! CrispyQ Jun 2015 #22
Which is why the Democrats favorable ratings are dropping JonLP24 Jun 2015 #25
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #5
Thanks, marmar. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #8
I love the parting shot NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #9
A first class corporation ass-licker! Why did he want to be in the Dem party? dmosh42 Jun 2015 #10
His district is heavily Democratic Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #18
Our corporate media demands a corporate candidate! jalan48 Jun 2015 #12
There's no doubt Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #13
We the people, our expectations no longer meet reality. Our reality is much worse than we had Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #15
He's just another Bizzarro Repug lark Jun 2015 #16
You nailed it Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #19
Bravo! hifiguy Jun 2015 #24
k&r magical thyme Jun 2015 #17
What's "crackpot" is the idea that we need the permission of the rich.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #20
K&R Big Time! 2banon Jun 2015 #21
With dems like Delaney, who needs repubs? CrispyQ Jun 2015 #23
K & R L0oniX Jun 2015 #26
Nice invective, Mr. Moyer! Demeter Jun 2015 #27
Delaney jopacaco Jun 2015 #28
more like the other way around PatrynXX Jun 2015 #29
until the conservatives in this party are out (Hillary) PatrynXX Jun 2015 #30
This is John Delaney turbinetree Jun 2015 #31

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
1. What else would you expect from a guy like this?
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jun 2015

"In a statement, Garagiola campaign manager Sean Rankin questioned whether Delaney's story represented the "American dream," suggesting it is instead "central to the nightmares of middle-class families."

"When you consider that John Delaney made his money on the backs of working people and small business owners and then see this kind of gratuitous wealth, you realize why Forbes magazine called him a loan shark and feel for the working families who lost their livelihoods and homes to Delaney and CapitalSource," he said.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-03-02/news/bal-delaney-would-be-4thwealthiest-in-house-20120302_1_capitalsource-campaign-manager-tax-returns

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
3. I see his point
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 11:22 PM
Jun 2015

Maybe. Sort of. Some Democrats are very, very afraid they will lose even more ground unless they pretend to be Republicans, triangulate, etc. I guess this is a warning to avoid dragging the party to the left, from its present position at the center-right. Well, the political pendulum swings, as we know. It has moved way to the right, further than people would have imagined 30 years ago, so far right we are at odds with most other developed nations, with policies that resemble those of a poor, emerging nation. One of these days, voters are going to look at progressives and democratic socialists, and that means the Democratic Party will have to allow itself to be nudged back to the left. People like Congressman Delaney are going to be left behind.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
22. Well said!
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jun 2015
...so far right we are at odds with most other developed nations, with policies that resemble those of a poor, emerging nation.


JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
25. Which is why the Democrats favorable ratings are dropping
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jun 2015

and so much more with registered Democrats numbers dropping when it was at all-time highs with Obama elected in '08. The party didn't get there by pretending to be the middle or whatever but as a warning to what? The party is losing, not gaining look at "expanding entitlement programs at the expense of other priorities". 80% of Americans support expanding social security. Floating Chained CPI cuts did him no favors, trust me I live in a very conservative area with seniors that like their SS and Medicare.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
9. I love the parting shot
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:54 AM
Jun 2015
"Oh, how the mighty tremble when they hear such things! The murmuring crowd is their worst nightmare. So plutocratic Republican apologists like Peter Wehner, the corporate Democrats of Clinton, Inc., and killjoys like Congressman Delaney will double down against Bernie Sanders, just as they have against all those in politics before them who champion bottom-up democracy. If that means turning "left," so be it. For Democrats, it's the way home. They would do well to remember that apocryphal saying, usually attributed to Gandhi: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."


THEN YOU WIN!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
18. His district is heavily Democratic
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 03:01 PM
Jun 2015

so posing as a Democrat would make sense if he wanted to get elected.

jalan48

(13,871 posts)
12. Our corporate media demands a corporate candidate!
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jun 2015

Who do these Occupy-type Progressives think they are anyway? It needs to be Jeb vs. Hillary in the Presidential finals, brought to you by your fine sponsors at Wall St. Go team!

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
13. There's no doubt
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jun 2015

That congressman is definitely getting his bread buttered by corporate interests, and that he has a palpable fear of what they'll do to him if he betrays them. The invective is just too inflammatory...too desperate sounding.

I feel it's the same vicious tone the president is using toward the populists in his party when pushing the TPP.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
15. We the people, our expectations no longer meet reality. Our reality is much worse than we had
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jun 2015

ever expected and been promised. And when our expectation no longer meets our reality it's revolution time.

lark

(23,121 posts)
16. He's just another Bizzarro Repug
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jun 2015

Right is left, up is down, bad is good. Funny, you don't see articles gigging Huckabee, Santorum or Perry, even though they are all total jokes and don't have a chance in hell of winning the presidency. They don't even take positions most Americans like. Pisses me off how the corporate media is painting such a loser picture of Bernie, when he's one of the very few who is actually real. Pisses me off how all Repug candidates are automatically legit, when actually none of them are. They are all just painted pigs who have large donors to confuse the populace about what's real and what's a lie.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
23. With dems like Delaney, who needs repubs?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:23 PM
Jun 2015

And they wonder why there is an enthusiasm gap in the dem party.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
27. Nice invective, Mr. Moyer!
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:37 AM
Jun 2015

I do love a good rant at a worthy target in the morning or anytime!

And the Tea Party will be putting Bernie over the top. They aren't crazy (not most of them, anyway)...they are desperate for leadership out of this mess. They will join with us Progressives in rewriting the USA game plan.

jopacaco

(133 posts)
28. Delaney
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jun 2015

Sounds like Congressman Delaney needs an actual Democratic challenger in the primary. We don't need Democrats like him.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
29. more like the other way around
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:59 PM
Jun 2015

the more conservatives we have in the Democratic party the more likely we'll have a crackpot from the right running for office. oh wait. they did that in 2012 sigh. idiot is in a bubble. Bernie is in what used to be the left. he's the is the only Democrat left and people are listening

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
30. until the conservatives in this party are out (Hillary)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jun 2015

we'll never be able to fix a thing so have no choice to root for the only Democrat left ahem left wing liberal progressive whatever.... Elizabeth doesn't want to run okay but I think she'd be more effective here.. Elizabeth can't be against Hillary and for Hillary at the same time. Which is it Wall Street or the poor street and Bernie's been there

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
31. This is John Delaney
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:05 AM
Jun 2015
http://crfb.org/blogs/delaney-and-cole-propose-social-security-commission

When you read the above "blather" on what he and Coles are trying to do its is nothing more than smoke and mirrors-------------he wants this program privatized, he is in my opinion a DINO.

He and Cole and others want to be able to go around and say --------------see the government can't fund this, lets have wall street , hedge funds crowd take it over everything.

I guess he wasn't around when one Mitten's Romney took a business named Solendra and dismantled the business while running to be president and shipped the jobs and the machinery to a communist country called China, and they were making a profit in this country, it was about greed-----------now's that being a patriot of the greeeeeeeeeeeeed.



Hey, Delaney resign, I mean really resign from the 6th District here in Maryland----------if you haven't figured out that trade is what's causing this country inner cities and other areas to be crumbling then you really have no business being a representative of the people.

When you support and have a trade polices or a "DEAL / TPP" trying to be put in place to take $700 million a year out of Medicare to re-train workers, for 6 years to the tune of $4.2 trillion dollars to rob Peter and pay Paul---------------then your logic doesn't hold water in wet paper bag.
Take Medicare health benefits to re-train workers instead of lets say passing legislation for jobs, like infrastructure and raise taxes to pay for this stuff and cut defense spending.

Here is another clue Mr. Delaney, remember when Western Telephone use to be in Baltimore-----------they made telephones-------------then they closed down the plant and shipped those jobs to Mexico (NAFTA) and now they are in China ( because Mexico was to expensive with labor costs at the time frame), those Western Telephone jobs supported the city of Baltimore-------------now they support a communist government------------please tell us how and why you support a government like Malaysia's and its dictatorship---------that makes no common sense.

What's your position on this fact Mr. Delaney, I think all of the citizens of Maryland deserve answers to that question

I am the left and I am proud to say that I will vote for Sanders, can't wait to get my bumper stickers and UNION made T-Shirt--------Jonny-------------they were made in AMERICA

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