Sarah Palin Says Media Ignored ‘Pedophile’ Lena Dunham While Shaming Duggars

[RandySF]

Bristol and Sarah Palin lashed out at the media Thursday for its response to the scandal surrounding reality TV star Josh Duggar, comparing his family’s treatment with that of Lena Dunham after passages in her memoir were labeled evidence of child abuse.

In separate posts, Bristol and Sarah Palin blast the “liberal media” for reacting with furor over news that Duggar had inappropriately touched his younger sisters, some of whom were sleeping, while downplaying passages from Lena Dunham’s recently published memoir in which she describes looking at her sister’s vagina and bribing her for kisses as a child.

TLC has pulled episodes of the Duggar family’s hit show amid the scandal and Josh stepped down from his position at the Family Research Council. Dunham released a statement apologizing for triggering painful responses by including the offending passages in the memoir.

But both Palins believe the media response has been uneven. “I can’t believe how crazy the media is going over the Duggar family compared to the big fat yawn they gave Lena Dunham when she wrote in her book that she sexually experimented with her sister,” Bristol Palin wrote in a blog post. “The double standards make me sick.”


http://time.com/3909779/sarah-palin-duggars-lena-dunham-pedophile/

[shenmue]

1. Oh bullshit

Lena and her sister played a seconds-long game of "you show me yours, I'll show you mine." The incident happened once and was never repeated.

Josh Duggar raped his sisters and their friend several times over the course of at least a year.

See the difference?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

62. Oh FFS, he didn't rape his sisters or the babysitter

He committed criminal sexual assault, no question, but he didn't rape anyone.

I'm consistently amazed at the amount of misinformation and outright distortion of facts that happen on this site. What he did was bad enough, why exaggerate it?

[fishwax]

2. wasn't Lena Dunham seven years old at the time of the incident in question?

Seems like a pretty obvious difference from Duggar.

[dem in texas]

3. Lena Denham didn't hide it

The bad thing about the Duggars is their hypocrisy. They present themselves as being "holier than thou" while they hid Josh's problem. That is what is so sick about them. We have Oprah's show to thank for doing the right thing, contacting the police. If her show had not done that, we would probably never found out about the molesting while the Duggars continued racking in the money on TLC by presenting themselves to be such pure Christian people.

[randome]

16. On target.

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[Johonny]

4. Damn you FOX news for your two part interview with the Duggars and not having one of Lena Dunham

It is just like the liberal media that Palin used to be on. You betcha!

[Botany]

5. thanx a big old shit pile John McCain for S. Palin

[Joe the Revelator]

6. I mean, what she did to her sister was not 'normal' and she shouldn't get a pass.

but I hate Sarah Palin soooo.....

"I look at my sister, now a slim, tough one-year-old, and at her tiny belly. I imagined her eggs inside her, like the sack of spider eggs in Charlotte's Webb, and her uterus, the size of a thimble. 'Does her vagina look like mine?' 'I guess so,' my mother said. 'Just smaller.' One day, as I sat in our driveway in Long Island playing with blocks and buckets, my curiosity got the best of me," Lena wrote. "Grace was sitting up, babbling and smiling, and I leaned down between her legs and carefully spread open her vagina. She didn't resist and when I saw what was inside I shrieked."
"My mother came running. 'Mama, Mama! Grace has something in there!'"
"My mother didn't bother asking why I had opened Grace's vagina," the 28-year-old creator, producer and star of HBO's Girls continued. "This was within the spectrum of things I did. She just on her knees and looked for herself. It quickly became apparent that Grace had stuffed six or seven pebbles in there. My mother removed them patiently while Grace cackled, thrilled that her prank had been a success."

In another passage, the actress recalled, "As [Grace] grew, I took to bribing her for her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a 'motorcycle chick.' Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just 'relax on me.' Basically, anything a sexual predator might to do woo a small suburban girl I was trying. Maybe, I thought, she would be more willing to accept kisses if I wore the face mask my grandmother had for when she did her dialysis. (The answer was no.) What I really wanted, beyond affection, was to feel that she needed me, that she was helpless without her big sister leading her through the world.

http://www.eonline.com/news/594155/lena-dunham-responds-to-accusations-that-she-molested-her-younger-sister-grace-dunham

[NOVA_Dem]

10. Lena Dunham is disgusting. nt

[Oktober]

15. Not to mention unfunny...

[NOVA_Dem]

17. Do you notice how everyone in the thread is pretending like they don't know what Dunham did?

Bragging about how as a 7 yr old placing pebbles in a 1 yr old's vagina and other subsequent "grooming" activities that continued until she was 17 is sick behavior.

[Oktober]

18. No motivation...

Lots of folks hate the Duggers and have latched onto an opportunity to expose their hypocrisy.

Most folks either don't know or just don't care about Dunham. She falls in with the other million sickos that we don't do anything about on a daily basis.

[Beaverhausen]

22. she didn't say she put the pebbles in

her sister had done it.

The point is, Dunham doesn't go around preaching to others that she is a 'good christian' the way the Duggars do.

It's the hypocrisy.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

23. "The point is, Dunham doesn't go around preaching to others..."

So pedophiles are OK so long as they openly embrace it?

[Beaverhausen]

30. I wasn't trying to defend Dunham

but to compare what she did to what Josh did is wrong in so many ways.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

31. Such as?

[Bjorn Against]

35. Such as the fact that she was only seven years old

A seven year old's curiosity is not pedophilia, it is ridiculous to see people go after her for something she did when she was just beginning elementary school.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

38. No. She wasn't just 7. She continued her sexual predations into her teenage years including

enticing her kid sister to sleep in her bed while she masturbated.

[Bjorn Against]

39. Cite me one piece of evidence that she ever touched her sister as a teenager

Lots of teenagers who share a room with their sibling masturbate after their sibling falls asleep. There is no evidence that her sister even knew this was happening nor is there any evidence that Lena Dunham was having fantasies of her sister while she masturbated. This is a completely made up controversy, there is no evidence what so ever that she touched her sister past the age of seven.

[Juicy_Bellows]

41. Here is a quote from her:

"As she grew, I took to bribing her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a “motorcycle chick.” Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just “relax on me.” Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying. Maybe, I thought, she would be more willing to accept kisses if I wore the face mask my grandmother had for when she did her dialysis. (The answer was no.) What I really wanted, beyond affection, was to feel that she needed me, that she was helpless without her big sister leading her through the world. I took a perverse pleasure in delivering bad news to her — the death of our grandfather, a fire across the street — hoping that her fear would drive her her into my arms, would make her trust me."

Not exactly Duggar level I suppose but pretty damned troubling.

[Bjorn Against]

44. The sexual predator line was clearly an example of her poking fun at herself

It may have been a bad joke, but a bad joke is not the same as child molestation.

[NOVA_Dem]

42. Those goal posts just keep on trucking down the road don't they?

another passage directly from her book:

As she grew, I took to bribing her for her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a “motorcycle chick.” Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just “relax on me.” Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl I was trying.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/concha-lena-dunhams-disturbing-passage-deserves-all-the-scorn-its-getting/

[Bjorn Against]

45. I never moved the goal posts

I asked for evidence that she touched her sister past the age of seven, you still have not provided that. A bad joke about sexual predators meant to poke fun of herself is not the same as child molestation, she clearly did not mean for that joke to be taken literally.

[Juicy_Bellows]

46. Your quote and link look a lot better than mine!

I think we're on the same page though.

[NOVA_Dem]

24. Do you really believe that...really?

I would like to meet the 1 yr old that can:
1) Remove their own diaper
2) Find seven pebbles and place them in their vagina
3) Put their diaper back on

1 yr old toddlers do NOT have that kind of manual dexterity.

[Bjorn Against]

37. She was seven years old

There is no evidence at all that this continued past the age of seven, the right wing media made the allegation that it continued until she was seventeen with no evidence to back it up. I challenge you to find any proof that she ever touched her sister after graduating from the second grade, you won't find such proof because that allegation was completely made up by the right wing media.

[NOVA_Dem]

40. You are uninformed on this issue.

this is quoted directly from her book:

I shared a bed with my sister, Grace, until I was seventeen years old. She was afraid to sleep alone and would begin asking me around 5:00 P.M. every day whether she could sleep with me. I put on a big show of saying no, taking pleasure in watching her beg and sulk, but eventually I always relented. Her sticky, muscly little body thrashed beside me every night as I read Anne Sexton, watched reruns of SNL, sometimes even as I slipped my hand into my underwear to figure some stuff out.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/concha-lena-dunhams-disturbing-passage-deserves-all-the-scorn-its-getting/

Now that I have provided proof I doubt you'll change your position. You'll just move the goal posts a little further.

[Bjorn Against]

43. No you did not provide proof

I asked for proof that she touched her sister, you only provided proof that she masturbated while her sister was sleeping. There is no evidence that her sister even knew she was masturbating. Lots of teenagers who share a room discreetly masturbate after their sibling falls asleep, that is not child molestation.

[Juicy_Bellows]

47. In the same bed?

I guess, I am sure that happens but man alive that is unsavory. Sharing a room and sharing a bed seem like a pretty broad divide.

[Bjorn Against]

48. It is certainly not something I would recommend doing

As long as she kept her hands to herself and her sister was not aware then it is mot sexual abuse. It may be ill advised, but people are accusing her of child molestation and masturbating while a sibling is sleeping is not child molestation.

[Juicy_Bellows]

49. We can agree on that for sure. nt.

[NOVA_Dem]

51. Here's how the goal posts moved:

1)You claimed Dunham wasn't the one who placed the pebbles in her sisters vagina. It is ridiculous to believe a 1 yr old can do this on their own.

2)Then you said there was no proof that anything happened after Dunham was 7 yrs old and that the right-wing made up the assertion that her abuse continued until Dunham was 17.

You've been provided with multiple quotes from her own book detailing grooming behavior (dressing her sister in inappropriate attire for a child, bribing for affection (long kisses on the lips), manipulation of emotions, etc) that Dunham HERSELF says occurred until she was 17.

You're just pretending the proof wasn't provided.

[Bjorn Against]

52. No, I asked for proof that she touched her sister past the age of seven

I never said anything about how the pebbles got into her vagina nor do I care, Lena Dunham was only seven years old at the time and I am not going to stand in judgment over what someone may have done when they were seven years old.

I stand by my assertion that there is no evidence of abuse past the age of seven, there is no evidence that Lena Dunham ever had sexual feelings for her sister. Taking a quote about kissing her sister and trying to make it into something sexual is pathetic, lots of siblings kiss and it is rarely sexual.

[NOVA_Dem]

53. You know people can see what you actually wrote in the thread right?

You're cognitive dissonance may be preventing you from accepting proof:
Dunham was probably around the same age as that other Duggar abuser when she was sexualizing her 5 yr old sister:
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[Bjorn Against]

54. Yes, people can read what I wrote

Which means they can clearly see that you are wrong, I never said anything about how the pebbles got into her vagina. If you think I am wrong then link to where I said such a thing.

Lena Dunham is a comedian and like most comedians she makes some over the top comments sometimes, but a white tee shirt that says "Bad Girl" is not evidence of abuse.

Grace Dunham who is the person you are alleging was abused does not think it was abuse either as she has publicly stated. This "story" originated when the right-wing media took quotes from Lena's book out of context, nobody who actually knows Lena Dunham has alleged she was abusive.

[NOVA_Dem]

58. So now you're defense is she's a comedian?

I'll be waiting for her first stand up special on HBO.

Those quotes contained paragraphs directly from her book how can they be taken out of context?

Dressing up a 5 yr old and telling her she's Hell's Angel's sex property isn't grooming behavior?

If a victim doesn't recognize the abuse a crime that doesn't negate the abuse.

[Bjorn Against]

59. She already has a comedy show on HBO

It may not be stand up comedy, but she is the writer and lead actress in a comedy series so that clearly makes her a comedian.

Taking three paragraphs from a comedian's book that say nothing about child molestation and suggesting those three paragraphs prove she is a child molestor is most definitely taking things out of context.

Not one single person who knows Lena Dunham has accused her of abuse, she was accused of abuse by a right wing web site. You can choose to believe the right-wing website that first made these allegations, I will choose to believe Grace Dunham.

[840high]

61. Yes she is.

[NOVA_Dem]

63. As you can see posters have their minds made up w/o any facts

and when you present facts they find ridiculous ways to disregard them to hold on to what they prefer to believe.

[840high]

64. Very common on DU.

[Javaman]

7. the palins can read? nt

[rurallib]

57. surprised me also.

[City Lights]

8. The media didn't shame the Duggars. They shamed themselves.

Not surprised that Sarah doesn't get it.

[hifiguy]

9. "That woman is an idiot."

- Keith Olbermann

[irisblue]

28. He is still right n/t

[Tommy_Carcetti]

11. Wait, who is this "Sarah Palin" lady of which you speak? nt

[Orsino]

12. Sarah Palin says Media Ignoring Sarah Palin. n/t

[spanone]

13. 'sarah palin says...' bwahahahahahaaaa

[11 Bravo]

14. If Bristol Palin was any dumber she would require fertilizer and regular watering.

As for the Klondike Kardashian, she's just see's another "griftable moment".

[KamaAina]

25. "Klondike Kardashian" FTW!

[Initech]

19. Lena Dunham doesn't champion herself as a morality crusader.

Unlike the Duggars who do, and have made campaigns demonizing the LGBT community, and joined the bigoted American Family Association, and have appeared with just about every campaigning republican presidential candidate. That's why they are being attacked.

[RockaFowler]

20. I don't think anyone ignored Lena Dunham

As a matter of fact many people called her out for writing this in her book

[underpants]

27. Thank you. A quick google search shows that every major news org covered that story

Time
USA Today
All 3 networks websites and broadcasts
NYT
AP
CNN
and Fox News
The Daily Beasts has an article "The Rightwing's War on Lena Dunham"
Salon
Huff Po
And on and on and on

[NobodyHere]

34. Nobody was calling for her show to get canceled like the Duggars.

Or at the very least for Dunham to be removed from that show.

[Bjorn Against]

36. Why would they cancel the show over something she did when she was in elementary school?

[vankuria]

50. Dunham's show

is on HBO, a paid cable channel that you don't have to receive if you don't want it. The Duggar's reality show is on TLC a part of every cable channel package so even if you don't watch TLC the show is advertised on other channels so it's hard to escape it.

While I personally do not care for Lena Dunham and she lost me as a viewer to her show, she also doesn't go around the country as a moral crusader shaming others, trying to overturn laws that protect people and accusing others of being child predators.

I also question Lena Dunham's version of what she did with her sister when she was 7 yrs. old. She seems to look for shock value and I wouldn't be surprised if she embellished a large portion of what she wrote about her sister.

[sendero]

21. Maybe because Dunham..

.... did not hold herself up as an icon of American virtue? Idiots?

[KamaAina]

26. Who is this Lena Dunham of which Caribou Barbie speaks?

[Bjorn Against]

33. She is the creator, director, and lead actress in HBO's Girls

She is also an outspoken feminist which is why the religious right hates her.

The "child molestation" she is being accused of happened when she was only seven years old. Apparently Sarah Palin thinks seven year olds are child molestors.

[brooklynite]

29. Has Lena Dunhan shared her opinion on political candidates and issues?

[Bjorn Against]

32. Yes, she made an ad for Obama that compared voting to sex

She is also an outspoken feminist, the religious right hates her.

The "child molestation" she has been accused of happened when she was seven years old. If she is a child molestor than every kid who ever played doctor is a child molestor.

[yewberry]

55. I had to look up who Lena Dunham is.

Apparently she is in the entertainment industry. I'm not aware that she took a management position with a group whose mission is telling other people that they are better than everyone else is, as Mr. Duggar did.

[kimbutgar]

56. I wish Lena would offer to appear on Fox to tell her side of this story

Since they are so " fair and balanced" over there.

Something tells me Ms Lena would go to town and have fun with that interview!

[Blue_In_AK]

60. Delete