Undercover-cop hits on underage girl, she rejects him, he arrests her for being a smartass

[DetlefK]

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/underage-girl-brushes-cops-flirting-attempt-so-shes-swarmed-cops-groped-and

"“I had on a camouflage hat and Peinan had on camouflage pants. He said, ‘We match.’ I brushed him off and I laughed,” Erlich told The New York Post. After that, she said that she attempted to walk away and avoid him, and that is when he became more aggressive.

“He said something slick like, ‘Where are you going?’” she said, adding that she told Peinan that she was going home and asked if he was a cop.

When the officer replied by saying “maybe,” she then told him that was “a cop answer,” and at that moment a swarm of officers descended upon the girl, and Peinan told them to handcuff her and take her into custody.

When asked why she was being arrested, Peinan told her that “You know why, you’re being a smartass.”"

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"When she was finally released, Erlich decided to file a lawsuit against the officers and the police department for wrongful arrest and sexual harassment. According to the lawsuit, the girls were arrested because the officer was “angered at having his advances rebuffed.”

The lawsuit also states that the Erlich was groped by police while they were arresting her.

To avoid more details coming out in court, the city agreed to settle the case with a $45,000 hush payment.

Officer Peinan is currently the target of 3 other lawsuits and has reportedly not received any disciplinary action."

[geek tragedy]

1. Still carrying a gun and a badge, protected

by the blue wall and the cop union.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

7. They think that is why the badge in in the shape of a shield.

[delrem]

2. How can he be subject to all these lawsuits and

still be walking around, accosting people?

That doesn't make any sense.

[safeinOhio]

3. When police misconduct payments

start coming out of department funds, the brass will put a stop to them.

[frylock]

14. they should come directly out of the police pension fund so it effects ALL officers..

then maybe we'll see all of these so-called good cops coming out of the woodwork.

[Oktober]

16. Would you draw from the Ford worker pensions...

... For a vehicle fault that kills a few folks?

[frylock]

18. Terrible analogy..

If line workers at Ford had a reputation of deliberately sabotaging vehicles to cause bodily injury, and the heads at Ford and the unions defended it, then yes.

[awoke_in_2003]

24. Hear hear. nt

[glowing]

21. Perhaps they should carry liability insurance on the police.

Much like a Dr has to do with malpractice. If an insurance company has to pay out too many times, it will insist on new protocols and certain "bad apples" be fired.

This way, the pensions aren't harmed or the cops who are doing a good job being punished for their dept losing money and possibly losing out on protective gear and safety training. And the insurance company becomes the corporate "bad guy" so no one is a "snitch" and isn't harmed in the line of duty because they aren't protecting that "blue wall". Thats a pretty compelling reason alone to not buck the system. Say you need back up one night, and no one comes to your aid because they perceive you to be a snitch.

It could be a simple enough solution to the issue of paying out monies for improper conduct by the police. And I'm sure insurance companies would also want many guarantees in place, like a body camera, to have evidence for or against arrests and such.

[mountain grammy]

4. Is it part of the "blue code of silence" to allow these bully cops to stay on the job..

because it's better to wait until they actually kill someone?

There's plenty of warning for most violent cops and they should be dealt with immediately. Why is this cop still on the job?

Cops are giving unions a bad name.

[Madmiddle]

9. Cop unions don't care one tiny little bit about other unions or their members.

They don't care if cuts have to be made because they get their raises. They are bad for the public, period.

[kenfrequed]

11. Truth

I belong to a union myself, but unlike police unions if our people do something blatantly illegal we don't defend them without good reason. Hell, if someone is a constant screw-up then they are let go. It really is as simple as that. If one of our members committed a sexual offense like this they would be gone.

Police unions aren't unions, they are a racket that gets the backing of the local DA usually.

[hifiguy]

38. The kkkops' unions run on the same model

as The Mob, right down to the omertà. They should be abolished.

[Nye Bevan]

5. That cop should not only be fired, he should be prosecuted.

Abusing the power of arrest like that is just horrible.

[Sienna86]

6. NYPD

The goof officers out there need to help with a clean up.

[ybbor]

8. "To protect and to serve"

Their own self interests.

[Fred Sanders]

10. There are many reasons to be critical of police, this being one perhaps, but remember that it is

the 1 million guns in the hands of police versus 300 million second amendment guns in the hands of not police, soon to be concealed everywhere and anywhere.

Gun control will go a long ways towards police control.

https://www.dosomething.org/facts/11-facts-about-guns

[sarisataka]

27. Which has neither

Jack nor shit to do with police harassing, groping and illegally arresting teenage girls.

[cyberswede]

12. "To avoid more details coming out in court..."

The details in the article are disgusting enough - I wonder what they didn't want to come out?

[frylock]

13. fuck tha police

[PowerToThePeople]

15. every day I think I can not hate cops any more than I do

every day I hate them more.

[peacebird]

17. 'currently the target of 3 other lawsuits' how about three strikes and you're out for cops too?

[tea and oranges]

19. How About Zero Tolerance

You cost the taxpayers money - you're gone. It's a criminal offense against the people of the community to spend their money in ways that waste it & perpetuate cop crime.

[Oktober]

22. Ahhh.. Since zero tolerance has worked out so well every other time it's been implemented...

Zero tolerance is only for people who are too lazy to think.

Ideas like this result in what we have seen in Baltimore. The bare minimum of work to keep liability as low as possible.

Additionally, expecting a zero defect labor force (of any kind) is ridiculous.

[tea and oranges]

23. It isn't zero tolerance

resulting in what's happening in Baltimore - it's the cops retaliating b/c their feelings are hurt, poor dears. I'll take anything that might stem the tide of black men being murdered across America.

The 2006 FBI report detailed that white supremacists are infiltrating police departments across the country. What is it that these guys love to do - murder black people.

Call me a lazy thinker, call me a fool, but if it gets murderers w/ badges off the street, I'm for it.

[Oktober]

25. I was responding to the poster above specifically calling for it...

The cops in Baltimore know that there will be zero tolerance for mistakes, honest or otherwise, so they are limiting their liability and risk.

[tea and oranges]

26. Maybe

But it's more likely they're "showing us", just as NYPD did. How mature!

I'm just so effing sick of my/our tax dollars used to subsidize these murderous thugs crimes against mostly black people.

Especially in these times of austerity for thee & me.

[Oktober]

29. Have you ever gone out of your way for a boss who was hostile to you?

Deserved or not...

[tea and oranges]

30. Actually, I have

it was under the aegis of being a professional & helping clients whether boss was a-hole or not. (Have I ever had a boss who wasn't an a-hole?)

By "boss" do you mean the people of Baltimore (cuz that's a joke) or the police unions...? Who do cops recognize as authorities when their deadliest actions have zip consequences?

ps, cops are allegedly professionals, too.

[Oktober]

31. I spoke imprecisely...

'Go out of your way' as in beyond your duties and responsibilities and exposing yourself to unnecessary risk...

I think the folks in Baltimore got exactly what they wished for and they are about to regret it...

[tea and oranges]

41. We completely disagree

Professionalism means you do your job w/o including "little" extras like killing people & messing them up b/c you didn't like the way he/she spoke to you. Cops are allegedly professionals.

It would be a marvel if police limited themselves to the stuff in their job description. If you can't see that the police are out of control I'm not sure why you're on this board.

The people of Baltimore already regret the deaths of people by cop; that they're now subjected to the pettiness of police pouting is just BS.

[JonLP24]

34. That is what they are saying

so they're saying there are unable to do the job because they don't want to get in trouble for "honest mistakes" but the Baltimore PD has a history of much more than "honest mistakes". I have no doubt marole is low within the department but they want to be freely able to violate the constitution.

[gopiscrap]

20. Typical fucking cop behaviour

[Rex]

28. Society doesn't work when some of it's biggest sexual predators wear a gun and badge

and are craven cowards...which obviously every single cop involved proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Craven and megalomania, gee...what a good combination.

[Horse with no Name]

32. It would have taken a lot more than that to shut my mouth

Just saying....they got off cheap.

[JonLP24]

33. "maybe"?

WTF? Personally, I'm baffled why people ask the "are you a cop" question because even if they are they'll say no but "maybe" -- what kind of answer is that? Obviously "maybe" is a cop answer but a stupid one since "no" is probably the usual cop answer.

[Lancero]

35. Don't worry, I'm sure the 'good cops' will speak out against his actions...

And call for him to be taken off the force.

...Wait for it... Wait for it... Ok, wait a bit longer... More...

Huh, guess the 'good cops' are all out having donuts right now. Maybe they'll get around to holding their own accountable sometime next week.

[pintobean]

36. She wasn't underage

Age of consent in New York is seventeen. I guess the author decided to try to make the guy look creepier by embellishing in the headline.

That said, this cop should lose his job and be charged with false arrest.

[Rex]

37. No, he should be charged with sexual assault.

"After the rejection, the cop became aggressive with Natalie Erlich and arrested her on bogus charges."

I guess you missed that part.

[pintobean]

40. If so, then yes.

Becoming aggressive doesn't automatically mean sexual assault. Let's put it this way, Rex; a prosecutor should review all the evidence and charge him with every crime that can be proven.

[In_The_Wind]

39. One of New York's finest isn't.