There have been questions regarding the use of the C*** word on DU

[Evergreen Emerald]

There are questions in which people are asking why it is

Not okay to imply that a contender is a c***--but it is okay to imply that an opponent is a racist.

It should go without saying that the C word is NOT Ok--Ever. I am surprised that people must be told of that.

[demmiblue]

1. The c word is never ok, neither is implying that a politician with a stellar civil rights record...

is a racist.

Both were trying to be 'clever'. One is gone, one remains.

[ananda]

2. Maybe it's that the C word is very ugly, sexist, personal and gender specific.

Neither can it be either defended or contradicted.

There is nothing more demeaning or hurtful for a woman
than to be called a C..t or a B..tch

The R word can apply to anyone. Its attribution can be
defended or contradicted.

Sometimes its attribution is correct and sometimes not,
but it can be contradicted.

[demmiblue]

5. I wasn't trying to compare the two, just stating facts.

I found the OP a little accusatory/baiting since I have not seen that argument made. I very much dislike it when people claim something that doesn't exist because it fits their own narrative. If more than one or two people have made that claim, then I will retract my words.

[giftedgirl77]

3. Because both are the same thing?

With all the mudslinging around here that's the best comparison you could come up with?

[Evergreen Emerald]

4. You misunderstand. That is not my compairson

That was one of the comparisons on DU. I know it is hard to believe that people would equate the two. That is why I started this thread.

[demmiblue]

6. Link or slink.

If more than a couple people have made that comparison, then I apologize.

[giftedgirl77]

7. So can you elaborate please because your OP tends

to give that vibe & I'm not sure which racist allegation we referring to at this point & I'm pretty on point when it comes to the race issues.

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. I am not going to

call out a specific DUer. That is why I posted it generally. Your vibe is wrong, and your misunderstanding of the post is evident.

[demmiblue]

9. So I guess it is slink.

You shouldn't make accusations without backing them up.

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. Seriously

The reading comprehension on DU is getting lower and lower. What the hell are you talking about? Perhaps you should be reading the posts before you respond.

[demmiblue]

13. Again, slowly now...

you
shouldn't
make
accusations
about DUers/DU
if
you
can't
back
them
up.

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. Wow

You are so funny, I can only laugh. "Back them up?" Read DU for 5 minutes and you will be caught up.

[demmiblue]

26. *

[giftedgirl77]

11. So you're making the allegation that a DU'er called a

candidate a racist during primary season but you won't back it up & yet somehow think that person should be banned because a DU'er got banned for using a sexist slur?

Am I getting warmer?

[Evergreen Emerald]

12. No...

A person suggested that using the C word can be compared to calling someone racist.

My point, which I apparently have not made very well, based on the confused responses, is that the comparison is outrageous.

[giftedgirl77]

14. Yeah, I think you failed miserably...

Because according to this statement in your OP

"Not okay to imply that a contender is a c***--but it is okay to imply that an opponent is a racist."

You really sound like you are implying that the two are equivocal.

[Evergreen Emerald]

16. yeah

You totally misunderstood the post.

[giftedgirl77]

18. Well when someone is speaking in code without any sort

of background or further elaboration on the subject one can only go off of your direct quotes. Maybe your OP is way off point or completely misguided?

[Evergreen Emerald]

22. I think I continue

to overestimate the reading comprehension of people.

[giftedgirl77]

24. Oh trust me, my reading comprehension is above par.

[Evergreen Emerald]

25. hmmm

perhaps you are having a bad morning then.

Have a good day.

[giftedgirl77]

27. According to the replies in this thread, I'm going to say

you're the one that missed the mark. But good luck, maybe it'll pick up for you after lunch.

[Andy823]

20. Who implied that an opponent was racist?

Can you link to that post?

[giftedgirl77]

21. That's exactly what they quoted in their OP...

& exactly what I'm trying to figure out.

[snooper2]

15. Crab? Czar? Carp or Cyst?

What word are you talking about?

[PowerToThePeople]

17. There was one poster in the original 1000+ post thread

who used the full spelled out word many multiples of times in many replies within the thread. You can find it in their edits, as eventually they edited the word out of their posts.

[Bluenorthwest]

19. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have both had posters imply they are racists at various times

on DU. A 08 cycle post literally used photos of lynchings to equate Hillary's campaign to the photographs. Then that thread about Bernie. Those two threads are similar, the one with the too cute for Jr High slur is not similar to either post.

[deathrind]

28. Sticks and Stones.

[rock]

29. Agreed

"Hitler was a racist" - OK, objective material to support such a claim.
"Hitler was a c***" - NOT OK, snarl word, particularly inappropriate as it implies being female. It's connotation completely overrides any objective meaning.

[tularetom]

30. If everybody agrees that it's so awful, put it in the TOS

He did not actually use the Word That Shall Never Be Uttered.

He made what he may have thought was a clever pun that fell flat on its face. It was a dumb thing to do but I doubt if anybody can cite a specific rule that was violated. Certainly not grounds for immediate expulsion.

But if we want to ban even wink wink nudge nudge references to horrible terrible words like that, we need to say so. And we need to specify which words will get us booted.

And especially we need to be prepared to defend ourselves against accusations that we are acting like another horrible word. Two words actually - the PC words.

I just don't think anybody should get the death penalty for something they didn't even know was a crime.

[samsingh]

31. is the representation you've used okay or do you actually have to spell it fully

likewise, is inferring or implying worthy of banishment? this is not promoting hate. Should using the words muscle-brain get you banned as well.

i'm appalled at the political correctness here - certainly unlikely for me to contribute financially to this site again (like i've done for 14 years) - although never say never i guess.