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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:18 PM Jun 2015

'American torturers told me they would rape my daughter to get confession,'

The last "British" prisoner in Guantanamo has described horrific torture at the hands of US interrogators who allegedly told him they would rape his five-year-old daughter.

Shaker Aamer, 48, has been held in the notorious jail for 13 years without charge after being imprisoned in Afghanistan on suspicion of working with al-Qaeda.

He was born in Saudi Arabia but gained British residency while living in the UK with his wife and four children, who he has not seen for 14 years.

While being held at US military bases at Bagram and Kandahar, Mr Aamer claimed interrogators used his then young daughter in efforts to “break” him.


“One interrogator talked about what he would do to my five-year-old daughter in details that destroyed me,” he said.

“He said ‘They are going to screw her. She will be screaming, ‘Daddy! Daddy'.”


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/american-torturers-told-me-they-would-rape-my-daughter-to-get-confession-claims-britains-last-guantanamo-bay-prisoner-shaker-aamer-10299868.html

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'American torturers told me they would rape my daughter to get confession,' (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 OP
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2015 #1
Vile, despicable men. Evil beyond belief. CrispyQ Jun 2015 #2
Yep you're right heaven05 Jun 2015 #18
war criminals ... napkinz Jun 2015 #3
Of Course LeFleur1 Jun 2015 #7
Hey........... we tortured some folks Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #10
We tortured some folks prayin4rain Jun 2015 #14
The torture report needs to be released Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #24
I don't see how the U.S. maintains any credibility without prosecuting the torturers. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #26
Most tone-deaf thing Obama has said. DirkGently Jun 2015 #37
Nailed it with the folksy thing. Bonobo Jun 2015 #44
Convicted War Criminal n2doc Jun 2015 #13
thanks n2doc napkinz Jun 2015 #19
Only in a fascist police state is GOVERNMENT TORTURE considered normal. Octafish Jun 2015 #4
'I'm just a ghost in this house Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #5
American Exceptionalism n2doc Jun 2015 #6
yeah...my kids great grand dad died in from torutue Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #8
true heaven05 Jun 2015 #20
Who are the terrorists, again? K&R Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #9
Blackwater libodem Jun 2015 #11
The hired help, yes...that is but one. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #17
Few Americans realize that those who do the torturing . . FairWinds Jun 2015 #12
Yes but that is only the ones who have a conscious. zeemike Jun 2015 #27
"What have we done? Maggie what have we done?" nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #15
Should we shout ... should we scream ... brett_jv Jun 2015 #36
beyond words marym625 Jun 2015 #16
Oh, just more lookin' backwards to the past gratuitous Jun 2015 #21
If you don't take stock of the past and learn from it, you have no future. Joe Chi Minh Jun 2015 #34
Everyone involved has been prosecuted to the fullest extent of political possibility Fumesucker Jun 2015 #22
Mr. Aamer, we apologize to you. N/t spooky3 Jun 2015 #23
Pigs gotta oink and torturers gotta torture. nt valerief Jun 2015 #25
In the UK, you sometimes see the rather twee house-name on the front-garden gate: 'Dun Roamin'. Joe Chi Minh Jun 2015 #32
How apt! nt valerief Jun 2015 #33
WTF!? This is what the APA has been doing!? How do people become so screwed up that they Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #28
Move along... Move along..... 99Forever Jun 2015 #29
And the war crimes just keep on rolling in, year after year. Rex Jun 2015 #30
'American torturers told me they would rape my daughter to get confession,' The CCC Jun 2015 #31
Houston..... we have a problem....In a New York minute skip to what's important.. Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #35
we've all got b**** on our hands Fairgo Jun 2015 #42
So ashamed to be American reading this LittleBlue Jun 2015 #38
Winning the hearts and minds. Orrex Jun 2015 #39
. riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #40
K&R napkinz Jun 2015 #41
Maybe Clint Eastwood can make a movie about them n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #43
I wonder who they live next to now? grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #45
Why does everyone assume Shaker Aamer is telling the truth here? oberliner Jun 2015 #46
Its possible JonLP24 Jun 2015 #48
Now, now, don't be sanctimonious. These were just patriots with a lot of pressure. Scuba Jun 2015 #47
the cheney crew. i'm surprised it wasn't dick himself telling him this. spanone Jun 2015 #49

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
2. Vile, despicable men. Evil beyond belief.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015


"I respected and believed they would give me a fair chance because they were Americans. I was happy that I was with Americans because of their human rights.”




LeFleur1

(1,197 posts)
7. Of Course
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jun 2015

Every once in awhile...too often...unfit people are elected to government where they can legally carry out their fantasies. They don't have to kidnap young girls/boys, imprison them in rooms and torture them, risking prison sentences if caught. They can carry out their rawest dreams in prisons of their making on people that they deem "have it coming" because they say so. No jury, no judge, only they have the power to threaten, to capture, to hurt, to destroy. According to most in the know there were no results that justified the creative, demonic torture by the US government.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
10. Hey........... we tortured some folks
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jun 2015

''We did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks. We did some things that were contrary to our value''s............... oh.......... at least the banksters are paying a hefty fine so they can have a nice living while I was forced upon the street

prayin4rain

(2,065 posts)
14. We tortured some folks
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jun 2015

Oh, how I hate that he said that. I still have a lot of respect for the man, but in many important ways he has been such a huge disappointment.

prayin4rain

(2,065 posts)
26. I don't see how the U.S. maintains any credibility without prosecuting the torturers.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jun 2015

The whole thing is stomach churning.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
37. Most tone-deaf thing Obama has said.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jun 2015

To use that -- there is no other word for it -- "folksy" speak on the subject of torture was beyond belief.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Only in a fascist police state is GOVERNMENT TORTURE considered normal.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jun 2015

Seeing how few people in public say anything...



...people are too AFRAID TO PROSECUTE THE TRAITORS.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. yeah...my kids great grand dad died in from torutue
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jun 2015

in NAZI concentration camp...because of his political beliefs.... hey at least they are trying to keep them alive now....... so they can torture them for years


great toon.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. The hired help, yes...that is but one.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jun 2015


Bush/Cheney put into motion a terrorizing campaign, one people still pay a price for.
 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
12. Few Americans realize that those who do the torturing . .
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:19 PM
Jun 2015

are also greatly damaged. Soldiers who "do harm" to prisoners
have extraordinarily high rates of PTSD.

So when Americans condone torture, they are also supporting
the mental destruction of their own troops who carry out the dirty work.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
27. Yes but that is only the ones who have a conscious.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jun 2015

the solution is to recruit more sociopaths without the burden of it.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
36. Should we shout ... should we scream ...
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 03:09 PM
Jun 2015

What happened to the post-war dream?

Oh Maggie, Maggie what did we do?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Oh, just more lookin' backwards to the past
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:49 PM
Jun 2015

We're all about lookin' forward to the future! America, fuck yeah!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
22. Everyone involved has been prosecuted to the fullest extent of political possibility
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:49 PM
Jun 2015

So really, shouldn't we just look forward, do we truly need to damage our beautiful minds with this crass emotionality?

We all knew it was going to turn out this way when impeachment was removed from the table.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
32. In the UK, you sometimes see the rather twee house-name on the front-garden gate: 'Dun Roamin'.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jun 2015

When, during Pinochet's visit to the UK, during the squalid reign of Lady Cardboard, the London hospital he had been treated in heard the depths of depravity his goons had got up to, during the time of terror in Chile, they told him to leave, so he went to stay in a private hospital or nursing home in Sunningdale. The locals called the place, 'Dun Torturin''

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
28. WTF!? This is what the APA has been doing!? How do people become so screwed up that they
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:23 PM
Jun 2015

would do these acts of evil? Isn't that what the APA is supposed to be doing, figuring out how to fix fucked up people, instead of fucking up people even worse!!??

We live in the era of the bush: mean, cruel, criminal, genocidal, thieving. Please, let this nightmare end!

The CCC

(463 posts)
31. 'American torturers told me they would rape my daughter to get confession,'
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:42 PM
Jun 2015

I also have a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards. Obama
SEE

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
35. Houston..... we have a problem....In a New York minute skip to what's important..
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jun 2015

on this planet.... On things that words can''t describe

Sure you know torture and fear having been a way to maintain control over humanity. But their is something even deeper and more hidden behind this part of man's inhumanity to man. This is not

Good things the torturers didn't mention the C word.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
42. we've all got b**** on our hands
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:26 PM
Jun 2015

What asterisky word shall we assign Americans who seem preoccupied with anal rape? What shall we call our leaders who sponsored it, and those who condoned it, even now soft sell it's dismissal. What shall we call ourselves, who sponsored these leaders and defend them with our silence? Some new and nasty invective that insults us to the core, because that's what we deserve. We need a neologistic Pederasterix that captures how the world sees us now. We are moral punchline. Ask a Pom to fill in the blanks, Bloody Ameri****s. We all deserved to be banned from Polite civilisation until we can demonstrate that we know what democ**** means.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
38. So ashamed to be American reading this
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jun 2015

Atrocities were done in our names, with our money.

Most upsetting part is we'll never bring the war criminals to justice

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. Why does everyone assume Shaker Aamer is telling the truth here?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 06:52 AM
Jun 2015

Is it not possible that he is full of crap?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
48. Its possible
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jun 2015

That's the thing about torture is it takes place in dark rooms with no recorders & cameras but whether they said that or not it is very likely he was tortured and is held without charges and no trial.

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