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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:48 PM Jun 2015

Photos of women fleeing ISIS and removing black garb surface on Twitter



A freelance journalist working in Syria posted dramatic photos of women fleeing ISIS in northern Syria, and stripping away the black robes the terror group forces women to wear as they make their way to freedom. Jack Shahine, a journalist who’s been covering Syrians escaping the clutches of the extremists, posted one photo with the caption “Freedom Portrait.”

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/06/05/photos-of-women-fleeing-isis-and-removing-black-garb-surface-on-twitter/

Here's to hoping to see the Duggar daughters doing something similar in the coming years...
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Photos of women fleeing ISIS and removing black garb surface on Twitter (Original Post) ehrnst Jun 2015 OP
Let there be light. And color! nt Xipe Totec Jun 2015 #1
Freedom romanic Jun 2015 #2
A beautiful sight; but your Duggar comparison trivializes the horror of these women's experiences MH1 Jun 2015 #3
Precisely Sherman A1 Jun 2015 #4
I understand. I just think the Duggar girls are being abused and used for the sake of their ehrnst Jun 2015 #5
I would say the Duggar daughters have more than "small h" horrors to deal with Ex Lurker Jun 2015 #7
And, regarding the ISIS horror, children, as young as eight, MoonRiver Jun 2015 #8
As are Fundychrist girls. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #11
Does it really matter what cult abuses children? MoonRiver Jun 2015 #19
+ 1 DashOneBravo Jun 2015 #20
As a victim of sexual abuse, my answer is no. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #21
I'm so sorry. MoonRiver Jun 2015 #23
I hope the story is true but find it hard to believe that she could hide that A Simple Game Jun 2015 #6
What does it matter? sulphurdunn Jun 2015 #9
It may be real or it could just be symbolic, if she did escape ISIS good for her. A Simple Game Jun 2015 #12
A philosophy the right wing also loves Android3.14 Jun 2015 #26
I don't know about ISIS but other groups allow colorful clothing underneath and in private. nolabear Jun 2015 #15
It is not at all uncommon for women in chador or chaderi to MADem Jun 2015 #22
She has great taste in dresses! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #10
Yay Religious Fundamentalism! Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #13
Her face! A primal scream of relief! riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #14
+1 n/t ejbr Jun 2015 #16
That vibrant dress under her black shroud? What a mataphor! nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author ejbr Jun 2015 #17
how does she balance on the edge of the truck bed Sunlei Jun 2015 #24
I'm thinking it's not moving nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #25
I think so too. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #27
I hope they get to stay free too. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #28

MH1

(17,600 posts)
3. A beautiful sight; but your Duggar comparison trivializes the horror of these women's experiences
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jun 2015

I think the Duggar daughters have unfortunate circumstances, but unless we've been fed a really thick pile of b.s. about ISIS, there is really no comparison, and to even suggest a comparison trivializes what women go through when treated as PROPERTY and sexual slaves by these brutes.

The Duggars may have "small h" horrors to deal with - as do many families in the U.S., for a variety of reasons - but what happens to women in societies like ISIS is on a whole new plane of HORROR.

Please understand and please don't associate the two.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
5. I understand. I just think the Duggar girls are being abused and used for the sake of their
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jun 2015

parents, and the image of the religious cult that they are supposed to be the face of.

No diminishment of the abuse of ISIS was intended, but I think the Duggar girls are being set up for a life of servitude to abusers.

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
7. I would say the Duggar daughters have more than "small h" horrors to deal with
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jun 2015

whether they realize it or not at this time-and they may not. But I agree that the ISIS horrors are on a much bigger scale.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
8. And, regarding the ISIS horror, children, as young as eight,
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jun 2015

are being treated as sexual property

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
21. As a victim of sexual abuse, my answer is no.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:48 PM
Jun 2015

Those who raped me were all white christian males. And yes, it does damage children, even into adulthood.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
6. I hope the story is true but find it hard to believe that she could hide that
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jun 2015

colorful garment from the eyes of ISIS while living with them. Find it hard to believe she wouldn't have had it taken away and been punished for having such a garment in her possession.

Hope I'm wrong.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
9. What does it matter?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:21 PM
Jun 2015

The flag raising on Mt. Suribachi was a reenactment and is revered. The battle was real. The photo of the lady in the red dress with circles is real too, and powerful. Whether a reenactment or not, it's going to be famous because the battle is real and so, most likely, is she.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
12. It may be real or it could just be symbolic, if she did escape ISIS good for her.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jun 2015

But if it was symbolic it should have been noted.

I'm sorry but if the story and photo was symbolic or embellished then it is inexcusable not to make note of the fact. It is never OK for the media to make up stories and pass them off as real. Never. It does nothing but make the public less trustful of the media and tend not to believe anything the media reports.

If the photo is to encourage other women to escape ISIS then if it isn't plausible to the women still under ISIS control it is useless as a propaganda tool and probably even harmful. If ISIS hasn't searched the possessions of the women under their control for contraband then I suspect they will after seeing this photo. So it may have been foolish to publish the photo even if it did happen as claimed.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
26. A philosophy the right wing also loves
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jun 2015

Statue of Saddam Hussein
Mission Accomplished

When we lie to ourselves, we become the enemy.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
15. I don't know about ISIS but other groups allow colorful clothing underneath and in private.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jun 2015

I've had friends who visited very fundamentalist controlled areas in the Middle East be quite surprised at what women wore in their homes and under chador.

I hope it's a real photo.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. It is not at all uncommon for women in chador or chaderi to
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:13 AM
Jun 2015

wear colorful or stylish clothes beneath.

I had a friend who wore hot pants (this was the seventies) and a halter top to Ashura observances in the grand masjid in Qom. Of course, her racy outfit was covered by a subdued chador.

Qom, btw, is as significant as, say, the Vatican -- it is a holy city and the hometown of the late Ayatullah Khomeini. And Ashura ain't exactly a party (plenty of fasting, beating oneself with chains studded with tacks, and head cutting so the blood flows--it's off-putting if you've never seen it before).

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
14. Her face! A primal scream of relief!
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

wow!!!

No way is that staged. Her expression is so emotional - between a scream, tears and relief.

Literally shedding her imprisonment.

K&R&K&R&K&R

Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #14)

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
27. I think so too.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jun 2015

If it is moving, the driver sure isn't looking at the road. Plus, the way the driver is holding what looks like a cigarette (I may be wrong, but it sure looks like one) is not how people usually would hold a cigarette while driving.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
28. I hope they get to stay free too.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jun 2015

I cannot imagine what it must be like for them to be forced to dress in something that covers them from head to toe like that. It would drive me out of my mind if I had to wear those. I hate wearing clothes at all.

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