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BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:34 PM Jun 2015

Why Joe Biden asked Barack Obama to deliver his son's eulogy

WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden and President Barack Obama went through the fires together: two presidential campaigns, economic collapse, war, terrorism, destabilization of the Arab world and societal change that spawned the tea party and gay marriage waves simultaneously.

But aides say it is the men's shared experience with personal grief, and an unexpected bonding of their wives, daughters and grandchildren, more than their tests as officeholders, that have turned a political partnership between two men separated by race, age and temperament into a deep, if mostly unsung, friendship.

...Obama is often caricatured as aloof and professorial, with a poorly concealed arrogance, while Biden is Biden, prolix, comic both intentionally and inadvertently, self-effacing and engaging to a fault. Given these differences, it's easy to assume that their declarations of mutual affections are for show. But Ron Klain, Biden's former chief of staff, who later served as Obama's coordinator on the administration's response to the Ebola threat, said there is more to it. "The president ... has this reputation for being cold or distant - but he isn't," Klain said. "For the people in his orbit, the people he has a chance to get to know, he has a real sense of family" and the Bidens "are part of that. I think it's a loss that he feels personally."

Ted Kaufman, Biden's close friend and longtime Senate aide, said that "the president has been incredibly supportive, in every possible way, during this."

...At their regular lunches and in other private settings over a period of years, Biden confided his fears about his son's health to Obama. Beau had what was determined to be a mild stroke in 2010; at the time, there was no indication of cancer. He was diagnosed with brain cancer in 2013, had a lesion removed and went into remission. Then the cancer came back, and when Beau entered Walter Reed last month, it was clear it was terminal.

Obama had gotten to know Beau Biden on his own, during time together during both campaigns. He also saw him on a visit to Iraq, while the vice president's son was stationed there. Their embrace was memorialized in photos. "The president respected Beau a lot as a rising star in our party, as a person who had taken on some great fights and done a great job and served our country in Iraq," Klain said. "The president independently had a relationship with Beau and a great deal of respect for everything he stood for and had fought for."

Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2015/06/05/4331796/why-joe-biden-asked-barack-obama.html#storylink=cpy

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Why Joe Biden asked Barack Obama to deliver his son's eulogy (Original Post) BeyondGeography Jun 2015 OP
I'm glad they have the relationship they do. I am just heartbroken for Joe Biden hlthe2b Jun 2015 #1
This is so very sad. etherealtruth Jun 2015 #2
I agree BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #5
Al Gore and Bill Clinton had a great relationship - but I don't think one touches Obama-Biden. Drunken Irishman Jun 2015 #3
How did the "aloof" meme get started? I know that "arrogant" got started on RW radio. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #6
It's a can't-win meme. If he has dignity (he does), he's aloof.If he relaxes, he's shuckin' & jivin' Hekate Jun 2015 #10
I sometimes wonder why they don't just call him the "n" word and be done with it? Word parsing is.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #13
I remember it in the 2008 campaign... Drunken Irishman Jun 2015 #11
It's so clearly untrue treestar Jun 2015 #16
yep, dope addict/hypocrite Rush led the charge... 63splitwindow Jun 2015 #22
That is an excellent question. I have never seen him as aloof. He is a hands on very involved jwirr Jun 2015 #24
I think the RW couldn't handle his class and intelligence. Frustratedlady Jun 2015 #27
Agree with every single word. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #38
I have never understood the "aloof" and "professorial" descriptions. morningfog Jun 2015 #31
I was all set to rec this OP until I saw that "aloof" shit. Number23 Jun 2015 #32
It's media created bulls**t, much like most of the crap this president gets tagged with. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #37
Love it! vankuria Jun 2015 #41
RIP Beau Biden. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #4
Biden has provided a road map of how to be a devoted father. Perhaps the tradegy in Biden's lifw Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #7
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #14
OMG vankuria Jun 2015 #19
I just realized this morning that Joe has now buried two of his children. No parent should have to Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #35
Yes... vankuria Jun 2015 #40
I have looked everywhere in vain to share this photo. I am SO glad you were able to find, and FailureToCommunicate Jun 2015 #23
Glad I could share it. I love this family, and wish Beau's children long & happy lives. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #36
A strong bond sheshe2 Jun 2015 #8
Yeah, President Obama is "caricatured as aloof and professorial, with a poorly concealed arrogance" Cha Jun 2015 #9
Excellent example of lazy psychobabble. Boomerproud Jun 2015 #29
Thank you for getting it, Boomerproud! Cha Jun 2015 #33
Here's more of Obama being aloof and arrogant... Drunken Irishman Jun 2015 #12
Excellent, DIrish.. Mahalo! Cha Jun 2015 #34
They both rolled 18 on charisma. longship Jun 2015 #15
I'll always remember Joe for his 2012 VP debate Fearless Jun 2015 #17
It was a great and critically important performance BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #18
Loved his "malarkey" vankuria Jun 2015 #20
Me too it was a great debate. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #28
Wonderful post and wonderful photos here on this thread. n/t NCarolinawoman Jun 2015 #21
Aloof, my ass. 3catwoman3 Jun 2015 #25
Every single person who has met the President and First Lady mountain grammy Jun 2015 #26
The Prez is a great guy LyndaG Jun 2015 #30
Thanks for this. My heart just aches lovemydog Jun 2015 #39

hlthe2b

(102,293 posts)
1. I'm glad they have the relationship they do. I am just heartbroken for Joe Biden
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jun 2015

So much tragedy in his life...

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
3. Al Gore and Bill Clinton had a great relationship - but I don't think one touches Obama-Biden.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jun 2015

No Prez-Veep relationship really comes close - especially with Clinton and Gore's relationship being strained toward the end of that administration. You can tell both legitimately like and respect each other. Obama's pick of Biden was such a good one.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
6. How did the "aloof" meme get started? I know that "arrogant" got started on RW radio.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jun 2015

Aloof sounds more like inside the beltway b.s. than actual reality.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
10. It's a can't-win meme. If he has dignity (he does), he's aloof.If he relaxes, he's shuckin' & jivin'
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jun 2015

Since he's extremely intelligent, he must be arrogant too. It is BS; it's how Michelle gets that garden to grow so wonderfully.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
13. I sometimes wonder why they don't just call him the "n" word and be done with it? Word parsing is..
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jun 2015

so cute. NOT!!! "Aloof" & "Arrogant" = "Uppity".

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. It's so clearly untrue
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:42 PM
Jun 2015

Right wingers must dislike Obama so much that they won't listen to him or watch him or hear him and so they can make that up in their heads. The slightest observation shows that "aloof" is a ridiculous word to describe him.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
22. yep, dope addict/hypocrite Rush led the charge...
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:08 PM
Jun 2015

... only to be followed by even more scummier bloviators making millions feeding the right wingnuts.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. That is an excellent question. I have never seen him as aloof. He is a hands on very involved
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:16 PM
Jun 2015

president.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
27. I think the RW couldn't handle his class and intelligence.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jun 2015

How dare a black man be that smart and/or in the White House? The RW is so ignorant and lacking in self-confidence, they can only fight a person like Obama with nasty words and slurs. He's the person they'd love to be, but they know it is out of reach for them.

Biden is the perfect match. They are total opposites but still so much the same. I'd love to be a mouse in the Oval Office when they are unwinding at the end of a rough day. What a contrast to W and Cheney.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
31. I have never understood the "aloof" and "professorial" descriptions.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:26 PM
Jun 2015

He always seems so engaged and personable.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
32. I was all set to rec this OP until I saw that "aloof" shit.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 12:03 AM
Jun 2015

Aloof in this case just means a black man that doesn't feel the need to shuck and jive to make other folks feel superior.

He is funny as hell, super smart, and you can see his warmth as a human being from a million miles away. The "aloof" crap is just garbage.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
37. It's media created bulls**t, much like most of the crap this president gets tagged with.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 01:12 AM
Jun 2015

The old folks used to tell me that children and animals can always tell, and kids light up when they're around this president. That's enough for me.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Biden has provided a road map of how to be a devoted father. Perhaps the tradegy in Biden's lifw
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jun 2015

Helped him build a strong ability to be the father he is. Beau does not have appeared to have fallen far from the tree, a family very proud of Beau, they will miss him every day.

vankuria

(904 posts)
19. OMG
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:52 PM
Jun 2015

Not sure I can even put into words how deeply moving this photo is. RIP Beau Biden on the wonderful life you lived and the joy and honor you brought to your family, friends and your country.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
35. I just realized this morning that Joe has now buried two of his children. No parent should have to
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 12:57 AM
Jun 2015

do that. My heart breaks.

vankuria

(904 posts)
40. Yes...
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:03 AM
Jun 2015

Our Vice Pres. has had a very tough life, he almost lost his whole family with the crash that killed his wife, baby daughter and injured his two sons. He's a remarkable man in that he not only persevered, but went on to have an incredibly accomplished life and raise to 2 wonderful sons.

We can only imagine what he must be going through.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
23. I have looked everywhere in vain to share this photo. I am SO glad you were able to find, and
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:11 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:21 AM - Edit history (1)

post it. It speaks powerfully, I believe, to the notion: 'who can know the troubles I've seen'

Cha

(297,323 posts)
9. Yeah, President Obama is "caricatured as aloof and professorial, with a poorly concealed arrogance"
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:05 PM
Jun 2015

like that by the effing US mediawhore manufacturing press.'

Nothing could be further from the truth. But, then you'd have to know what really goes on with the President and his Admin.

Thank you for this, BG..



RIP Beau

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
17. I'll always remember Joe for his 2012 VP debate
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jun 2015

I would credit him completely with turning around the campaign that year after Obama's terrible 2nd debate.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. Me too it was a great debate.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:53 PM
Jun 2015

I loved that he laughed so much even though I get the feeling it was due to pain. That is how I am anyway when I hear things that are just so off the wall stupid and things that are obviously bs lies.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
25. Aloof, my ass.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jun 2015

There are so many wonderful photos of his delightful smile among crowds of people. He is engaging and engaged.

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
26. Every single person who has met the President and First Lady
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:35 PM
Jun 2015

has remarked on how warm and down to earth they are. Every single person!

In my opinion, the label 'aloof' is just code for uppity.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
39. Thanks for this. My heart just aches
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 01:22 AM
Jun 2015

for Joe and his family. I'm so glad President Obama is there for him. They have a great working relationship and a great personal connection as well. Interestingly, that's often not the case in the history of VP's and President's. I've often felt that the first important decision that a nominee for President makes is in the choice of running mate. When Barack chose Joe, he knocked it out of the park. Class act all the way.

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