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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMike Dukakis: Petraeus didn’t go to jail for lying, so neither should Tsarnaev’s friend
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/06/05/mike-dukakis-petraeus-didn-jail-for-lying-neither-should-tsarnaev-friend/rZvIrXV4VwSJ4GblWNjrwM/story.htmlFormer Gov. Michael Dukakis offered a letter of support on behalf of family friend Robel Phillipos, a friend of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev who was found guilty of lying to investigators.
Dukakiss argument? Four-star general and former CIA director David Petraeus lied to the FBI and revealed classified documents, and he was punished with just probation and a fine. Therefore, less consequential lying, like Philliposs crimes, should not result in prison time.
He writes:
We have had two cases recently in which people far more experienced and far more important than Robel have been guilty of the same offense of lying to the FBI, and neither one of them has or will do a days worth of time in jail. One was a former Boston police officer involved with a drug dealer for whom he covered up. The other was a four-star general who gave his mistress important government secret, classified information, and then lied to the FBI about it.
The four-star general here refers to Petraeus, who resigned amid accusations of an affair. He pleaded guilty to two years of probation for leaking classified information to his lover, Paula Broadwell. The Boston Police officer is a reference to Mel Steele, who was sentenced to one year of probation for lying to the FBI about providing information to a gang member.
Dukakiss argument? Four-star general and former CIA director David Petraeus lied to the FBI and revealed classified documents, and he was punished with just probation and a fine. Therefore, less consequential lying, like Philliposs crimes, should not result in prison time.
He writes:
We have had two cases recently in which people far more experienced and far more important than Robel have been guilty of the same offense of lying to the FBI, and neither one of them has or will do a days worth of time in jail. One was a former Boston police officer involved with a drug dealer for whom he covered up. The other was a four-star general who gave his mistress important government secret, classified information, and then lied to the FBI about it.
The four-star general here refers to Petraeus, who resigned amid accusations of an affair. He pleaded guilty to two years of probation for leaking classified information to his lover, Paula Broadwell. The Boston Police officer is a reference to Mel Steele, who was sentenced to one year of probation for lying to the FBI about providing information to a gang member.
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Mike Dukakis: Petraeus didn’t go to jail for lying, so neither should Tsarnaev’s friend (Original Post)
KamaAina
Jun 2015
OP
Agreed actually. This young man won't "learn" anything from incarceration
riderinthestorm
Jun 2015
#3
Somebody would DO that in Boston ? I would expect it from where I live (Florida)..
BlueJazz
Jun 2015
#6
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)1. I campaigned and voted for the Governor...
...this only reaffirms my admiration for him.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)2. +1, Same here. n/t
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)3. Agreed actually. This young man won't "learn" anything from incarceration
he'd be far better off with community service and probation - giving back to those he harmed. We need to stop with incarceration as the answer to everything.
He's not a violent offender, he was a scared young man making a dumb choice.
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)4. Not sure he would b safe in the community
Some assclown will shoot him and be all Boston proud like
Sucks.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)6. Somebody would DO that in Boston ? I would expect it from where I live (Florida)..
...but not Mass.
MADem
(135,425 posts)7. I like Mike. Always have. He takes the T!! nt
bluesbassman
(19,375 posts)8. We have a tiered criminal justice system...
That is intertwined with both social and income inequality. These three examples highlight those tiers in glaring fasion.
Mike Dukakis has always been a good man and bravo for him calling this out.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)9. Tsarnev's friend doesn't have leverage
Betrayus knows "where the bodies are buried". His time in office gave him access to some serious dirt that he can use to avoid punishment.
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)10. I'm ok with this sentence. Patraeus should get jail, too.
I don't know much about the boston cop situation.