Piers Morgan Nails It: 19 disgusting things I learned about the Duggars from their TV interview...

[LovingA2andMI]

I watched Megyn Kelly’s Fox News interview with Jim-Bob and Michelle Duggar last night.

By the end of it, I felt so angry and nauseated by this pair of dangerous, deluded imbeciles that I wanted to smash my television into smithereens with a pickaxe just to rid myself of their sanctimonious, hypocritical faces.

It was one of the most invidious, repulsive, exercises in brand-protecting bulls**t that I’ve ever had the misfortune to experience.

Their show, which I sincerely hope never gets aired again, is called 19 Kids and Counting.

I’d like to amend that title to 19 Disgusting Things About The Duggars….and Counting.

Here’s why:

1) Their son Josh was a serial child abuser, yet they don’t seem to even realise this salient fact. ‘He was so young,’ they wailed, ‘he’d just turned 14’…. ‘he was so young’…etc, vomit-makingly etc. Here’s the only fact that matters: Josh Duggar sexually molested FOUR of his own young sisters, one as young as 5, and a baby-sitter.

2) They didn’t report him to anyone for 16 months after he first confessed. That’s not them being ‘failed parents’ as they would have us believe. That’s being an accessory to covering up a crime.

3) When they finally did tell someone in authority, it was to a state trooper who did nothing about it and is now languishing in prison on child pornography charges. You couldn’t make that up.

4) The Duggars seem more upset that we now all know about Josh’s disgraceful activities than about the activities themselves. Their doe-eyed exclamations of self-pity were utterly disingenuous.

5) They claim none of the victims knew they were being abused, which is obviously palpable nonsense given that some were awake when it happened. The reality is their parents conned them into thinking the abuse wasn’t as bad as it was. Just as they have, for years, conned them into thinking their weird, twisted, religiously zealous, goody-two-shoes lifestyle is ‘normal’ too.

6) Jim-Bob insisted his son wasn’t a pedophile because he was only 14 and 15 when the abuse occurred. ‘He was a child preying on a child’, he said, as if that makes any real difference.

7) They downplayed the abuse by saying it only lasted ‘seconds’ as if this, too, makes it any less appalling. Abuse is abuse is abuse. The time period is irrelevant.

8) They made this assertion: ‘Similar things happen in other families’. Really? I’m struggling to think of a single other family where a serial child molester has not only got away with his crimes thanks to his parents’ deceit, but has then been made a TV star by the same parents in a show extolling the virtues of family values.

Read More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3111528/Piers-Morgan-19-disgusting-things-learned-Duggars-TV-interview-counting.html

If TLC, the So-Called "Learning Channel" thinks about putting this freak show family back on the air, not only does a petition need to start, but the channel needs to be banned from TV PERMANENTLY! Is this the type of behavior young folks that are being abused today in some household sadly secretly in America -- need to see, hear or worst watch?

Save the excuses of Josh Duggar "being 14". He knew damn well what he was engaging with on his Sisters was wrong. The parents covered it up and lied continuously for years -- plus worst continued LYING more during this "interview" on a so-called Faux News channel called Fox News.

There is no way what-so-ever these folks (NONE OF THEM) should be seen on a TV screen near you. This is beyond disgusting. It downright sinful. Let's hope this is the last hurrah for the Duggar's. - Independent Underground News & Talk

[arcane1]

1. If he had been 14 and black, he'd be in jail charged as an adult n/t

[DebbieCDC]

2. Absolutely true

[LovingA2andMI]

3. Most Definitely

And this fact among a litany of other reasons is why this sick pervert family of near in-breeders never need to be back on the air. Unbelievable they believe that America as a whole should just move on -- while they parade themselves disgustingly on national TV covering STILL for their molesting Son.

This show should NEVER come back on the air. Any advertiser in the USA who wants to sell their product to the masses, better look at the Duggar's (ALL OF THEM) as kryptonite and stay far, far away.

[arcane1]

6. I'll go one step further and say this freak show never belonged on TV to begin with.

[LovingA2andMI]

8. Agreed!!

[calimary]

71. THIS^^^^^^^

[Takket]

24. ^^^^THIS

and lets have that 14 year old black's parents on the air saying God has forgiven their child and so should you blah blah blah. I guarantee your mike huckabees would be crying BS to using religion as an excuse to avoid taking responsibility then!!!!!!!!

[uponit7771]

25. +1

[valerief]

30. Only if he had survived the arrest by the police. nt

[Enthusiast]

68. True

[Kalidurga]

4. The Leering Channel is probably to blame as well

They had to know something was up. Especially after Mr. Duggar dry humped his wife in a public venue in front of his daughter on her first date in a place where it is likely other families were also playing mini golf. That was a vile thing to see. I just can't imagine seeing something like this in real life. As horrible as my parents were and they were really horrible, I just can't imagine it would be so mortifying. I would have yanked the show then and there.

I won't ever watch this "interview" it would piss me off way to much even with the cushion of other people watching and reporting is a lot to take. I wish they actually did feel like failures as parents clearly they are only saying that. If they really felt like failures they would have gotten real counseling, real help, and they would have reported their son within hours or days, not more than a year later. BTW Josh only missed being legally defined as a pedo by around 6 months not the year or two that is often reported. He started after he turned 14 and it went on at least for 16 months. It's hardly a distinction that matters because he is still a rapist no matter what his age was.

[LovingA2andMI]

12. And Furthermore....

How to we know he stopped at 14? Think about it. What reason did pervert Josh actually have to stop being a molester when his Parents covered up the Crime for him?

Also, why the HE Double Hockey Sticks did Megyn Kelly if she is a so-called journalist, not ask Jim Bob flat out, did he wait to report Josh's crime on his Sisters because (DRUMROLL PLEASE )

He was a Arkansas State LEGISLATOR on the Criminal Justice and Corrections Committee -- in FACT he was the Vice-Chair of the Committee -- when the Duggar's "Claim" Josh first touched his Sisters highly inappropriately?

Why this FACT continues to be lost or worst not asked in this story is down right baffling!!! A quick search on Wikipedia for Pete's Sake is all that is need to match the times and dates with the alleged "beginnings" of Josh's crimes against his siblings to Jim Bob's time in the Arkansas State House and Vice-Chair of the CRIMINAL JUSTICE and CORRECTIONS COMMITTEE!!

[Kalidurga]

18. We know he did not stop at 14

That is how old they claim he was when it started and then he did it again and then they sent him off to remodel a house. It was at least 16 months before they talked to any LEO I thing. At least that is what I think the time line was. If he was 12 when it started then it might be worse in a way, they could have gotten him help real help at that age and there would be no ambiguity on whether he is actually a pedophile, he wouldn't be he would have been a child who molested other children. The whole family dynamic could have been changed and they might have left that sick cult. In any case not sure it matters the parents are complete failures.

[LovingA2andMI]

20. Exactly!!!

The timeline is a death kennel to the Duggar's continually lies, cover up and permission of their son Josh being allowed to molest along with re-victimize his Siblings and a Family Friend Teenage Daughter, over and over again!

[arcane1]

32. His dad took him to visit a child-porn enthusiast cop.

Maybe the cop gave him some child-porn to watch instead of doing it in real life

[Kalidurga]

40. Yeah we really don't know what that visit entailed.

All we know for sure is it didn't lead to an investigation, an arrest, therapy, or any protection for his sisters.

[niyad]

61. this thread has the reason that idiot on faux did not ask those slimeballs any serious questions.

it's all about the clenis!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026772580

[JI7]

13. Oprah alerted them to it years ago

[lolly]

38. Wait, what?

Don't think I've ever heard about this. Or was this the scene where they were supposedly teaching their daughter and her boyfriend how to kiss?

[Kalidurga]

45. I think that is a different scene

This was on a mini golf course. I can't bring myself to hunt for the video though, sorry. I was actually traumatized by that on so many levels.

[Blue_In_AK]

43. I thought of that, also,

that the atmosphere within that family must be simultaneously hyoersexualized (thus 19 kids) and repressed.

[Kalidurga]

44. Yes, that was my immediate thought

It is IMO sexual abuse. There will not likely ever be a law against it. But, when the public sees it we should be able to say something and be able to suggest to CPS that they should investigate.

[Worried senior]

57. OMG

I never watch the show but the image of him dry humping his wife in public is nauseating, Suppose she looked at him with her adoring eyes once again.

[Kalidurga]

64. Well she was laughing

but it looked like that kind of laugh you do when you are completely embarrassed.

[calimary]

72. DAYUM!!! "The Leering Channel!" GREAT one, Kalidurga!

Somebody else here called it the "Touching Little Children" network. Which is also excellent and sadly true.

[wendylaroux]

5. It matters not one whit

the age of the molester,it is the damage it does to the victims.

They never for 1 second put those little girls first.

[Arugula Latte]

7. Girls don't count. Because Bible.

[wendylaroux]

9. you're right,

these 5 yr old strumpets,enticing him like that.

[Brickbat]

10. I can't get over the fact that if this had happened between two 15-year-olds in a young

relationship that has all the consent and respect such a relationship can have, that would somehow be worse than what he did.

[LovingA2andMI]

15. Another Good Point!!

If this had happened between 15 and 17 year old in Michigan (in a "Teenage Love" Relationship, Non-Related and by whatever consent the 15 year old erroneously thought they had) the 17 year old could have and probably would have been charged with statutory rape.

[Raine1967]

26. Marcus Dixon:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/us/student-sex-case-in-georgia-stirs-claims-of-old-south-justice.html

he was fortunate. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=1794781



A lot of other young black men are not.

[renate]

21. weirdly, I never thought of that... and haven't seen it anywhere else, either

I think you're right that the parents would have taken it more seriously if this behavior had taken place by mutual consent in a romantic relationship. I mean, what he did was a whole lot more than a side hug or holding hands before being engaged.

[BlueJazz]

11. They disturb me.

[libdem4life]

14. Josh is a victim, turned molester himself. Jim Bob is the self-defined "patriarch"

by his own beliefs...totally responsible for his chattel/children and wife. We don't know what happened to him, but he doesn't get a pass for his Patriarchal Values...self-defined until it doesn't suit his personal needs. IOW, a typical Republican.

[LovingA2andMI]

17. Whoa! Josh is a Victim???

No, Josh stopped being a "victim" of whatever crap Jim Bob and Michelle poured into his head when:

1). He Molested his Sisters repeatedly along with another non-related minor.
2). Decided as an Adult of his own free will to work for the Family Research Council, while claiming individuals who are LGBTQ are engaging in "sinful acts" while he knew FULL WELL he molested his Siblings.
3). When while as an adult, he continued to be on a "Reality TV" show claiming to be the beckon of "vulture" while knowing full well he was as much of a sinner as anyone else. "He who is without sin can cast the first stone'?" --- Josh had NO stones to throw, at all.

[libdem4life]

31. No, sorry, he was parroting his father's patriarchal values....I didn't say he was innocent, just

not the Poster Child of the Duggar Family. Just because Jim Bob does not accept responsibility for his "leadership" role in the family now that it's not "accepted" does not absolve him from the Trainer/Patriarch Role...sorry, these abominations do not happen just all of the sudden. They are Hidden generation upon generation.

Josh is the scapegoat...a well known biblical role. Look it up.

[frogmarch]

16. Bringing Up Bates!

An excellent piece by Piers Morgan! Thanks for posting it.

Just when we thought it was safe to turn on our TVs again, here comes the Bates family....again.

http://www.examiner.com/article/bringing-up-bates-returns-for-a-second-season

snip:

Last season wrapped up with Zach and Whitney Bates welcoming their son Bradley to the family. While the show has been on hiatus, two more grandchildren for Gil and Kelly Jo were added. The "Bringing Up Bates" Facebook page posted on June 2 that fans will see lots of babies in the upcoming season. There was also one engagement as Michaela Bates and Brandon Keilen moved beyond the courting phase of their relationship.

Alyssa and John Webster's daughter, Allie Jane, was born on April 11. Chad and Erin Paine were the latest to welcome their son, Carson, on May 14. Fans were thrilled to see Erin and Chad holding their little bundle of joy, especially since the couple had suffered a miscarriage and fertility problems. After testing, they discovered Erin had a blood clotting disorder and a daily shot of Heparin allowed her to have a healthy pregnancy.

As more of the Bates children marry, it may be almost impossible to keep track of all the babies. If all 19 children had just 3 children of their own, there would be 57 grandchildren for the Bates clan to love and spoil. Once Michaela and Brandon marry, everyone will undoubtedly wonder if they will be next to contribute to that growing number.

I won't watch it, just as I didn't watch the Duggars, but there it is. Apparently the new season of the Bates show premiered last night.

[LovingA2andMI]

19. Yep....Not Watching It Either....

[spanone]

22. ain't that america

[DesertFlower]

23. at 14 you know it's wrong. i remember

when i was about 10 a girl i knew who was about a year or so younger than me told me that she and her brother did things. he was a little older than her. i remember being shocked. that was around 1951. wonder what became of them.

[Eat_The_Rich]

27. Name Change

They need to change their name to Buggers.

[LovingA2andMI]

34. LOL....

Good One. The Buggers....

[maddiemom]

51. OUCH (good one)!

[47of74]

53. Sounds good

[niyad]

62. actually, people are now using the term "duggary" and similar.

[passiveporcupine]

28. Morgan left out one important point

Which, of course, he had to...but no way in hell do I believe Josh came to his parent crying. If it upset him that much that he did that, the first time would have been the last time. The only reason he got caught is because one of the "awake" victims said something to their parents (Mom probably).

Pedophiles support each other...which is why Jim Bob took this to the only cop he thought he could trust...someone who would talk to his son but not file charges. So is Jim Bob also a pedophile? We may never know.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

37. I agree - "no way in hell do I believe Josh came to his parent crying"

and I'm also calling BS on the parents saying: it was only a couple of seconds, and through their clothing, and they were sleeping - I'm calling BS on it all. They were found out and are now protecting, minimizing, trying to make it go away, deflecting, and I truly believe are not being truthful. Without going into detail, 'cause I'm old and still not ready to revisit VERY similar circumstances in my young life, suffice it to say - I'm calling bullshit.

[passiveporcupine]

39. sorry Mother4peace

I'm calling BS for the very same reasons.

I hope you find peace. I'm afraid it has messed with my life too much and I'm too old now to fix it. I hope the same thing doesn't happen to these daughters and sisters of the Duggan cult.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

41. Thanks - This family needs to apoligize to the LGBT community & society in general,

for their holier than thou, you're all child molesters crap. Then, if they really want to be to be of service, become honest with what occurred in their household, and not give interviews full of bullshit.

[LovingA2andMI]

42. Agreed!

No way in HE Double Hockey Sticks!!!

[classykaren]

48. I agree.What are the odds he would go to the one cop like that?

I'll bet he also did not go to a police station. Just talked to the cop in private. Then the cop trys to commit suicide in prison? Really? People are believing all of this?

[lib87]

59. My First Thought

As soon as details came out. What are the chances you'd take your son to a pedo LEO because your son is a pedo? Like other extreme cults, I think child sexual abuse sexual assaults against women is rampant in their community.

[Lordquinton]

69. Research shows it's a learned behavior

So not only should we look closer at the dad, what about the oer brothers?

[mountain grammy]

29. See, it's all ok, they are consenting children..

and Jesus is watching, and the Bible.

[3catwoman3]

33. I think that it was on Stephanie Miller's show this morning that...

...either Chris LaVoie or John Fugelsang wondered the following - if it had been a non-family member that had done these things, would the parents still be offering the rationalization that this was not really sooooo bad because it was done through the girls' clothes and they were asleep so didn't know it had happened.

[SammyWinstonJack]

55. OMG

[justgamma]

36. I'd really like to know how they managed

to find a cop who was into child porn to report it to. Could that be the reason he didn't report it? That's just too coincidental for me.
Doesn't pass the smell test.

[maddiemom]

49. And yeah, of course: if a child of mine were exhibiting such a problem, the first

person I'd turn to would be a cop. Were they trying to scare him "straight," or would it be too embarrassing for them to seek qualified psychological help, or , here's an idea---a minister? That the cop was found to be into child porn was just a titillating sidelight.

[erpowers]

52. He Would Not Tell

I do not think they were trying to scare him straight. I think this cop was picked because he was a family friend and they knew he would not try to get charges filed.

[durablend]

65. Another idea...

Farfeteched maybe, but what's to say Jim Bob took Josh to the pedo cop and said to him "straighten my son out or I'll turn you in for all that kiddie porn"

[classykaren]

50. Mine either

[nxylas]

46. When Piers Morgan calls you disgusting...

...you know you've hit rock bottom.

[murielm99]

66. Right.

Usually, I have no respect for the man. He is smarmy and slimy, making his money off junk TV. But he is right this time.

People eat up the junk TV. I guess maybe one of their own has to know where to draw the line. Good for you, Piers!

[maddiemom]

47. I've never seen the show, but certainly heard about it. From the beginning, I found it creepily

ironic that The LEARNING Channel chose to air it.

[nxylas]

67. There's as much learning on The Learning Channel...

...as there is history on The History Channel.

[KatyaR]

54. What's sad is

that this is how the rest of the world sees us--evangelically religious, extremely conservative, barely educated people who have tons of children and always make excuses for the things they do. Throw in the love of guns, denial of science, and violent police--it's no wonder the rest of the world thinks we're nuts.

[Jamastiene]

58. Exactly.

We have let the worst among us run the country for far too long now, in regular life and in politics. Even with a Democratic president, our Congress is stuffed to the gills with right wingers who do nothing but obstruct when they don't have enough votes and pass hideous anti-woman and anti-gay and anti-poor people and racist and other garbage when they do have enough votes.

I don't know why such a small group of people get to decide just about everything that happens in our political system and in our lives in the US. Prop 8 and all that other right wing garbage should never have been allowed. Women have to put up with an in ordinate amount of garbage too, vaginal ultrasounds? Really? The majority of us are sick and tired of it, but people like the Duggars and their right wing cohorts have the power, keep the power, and never lose the power.

[packman]

56. "..downright sinful"-implies a moral code

and anyone at least vaguely familiar with religious nuttery just knows there is no such thing as "sin" if one asks Christ for forgiveness. Shit - do the so-called sinful thing and then go into the corner and ask Jesus for absolution and PRESTO - the magic genie will make you pure and clean again.

Certainly this was drilled into Josh's cheese wiz brain when he was young. Ergo- ipso facto -as long as he asked for the blessed grace of his family taught God, no "sin" was committed.

Ain't it wonderful - a perpetual get-out-of-hell card. Man made laws, well they are just shitty compared to the glory of God's eternal grace. No wonder the family or he didn't care about secular law, they were nestled in the bosom of the lord. These type of people really have no need to abide by man made laws.

[eppur_se_muova]

60. I've never understood the attraction of breeding like rats.

The lower you are on the ladder, the more offspring you have. Why would being a breeder be something to brag about ?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

63. You just KNOW the guy was breathing heavy when he did it....

Meanwhile, my sister was kinda like Lucy on Charley Brown.

[Initech]

70. If there is a silver lining in this disgusting and horrible story. ..

Is that it will ruin the reputation of the American Family Association, and it will pretty much destroy the Quiverfull movement. It's no wonder people my age are rejecting religion left and right.

[YOHABLO]

73. Just let the story die. Let them deal with it. I don't know how much money is involved with

the Duggar's show. Perhaps enough to public air their grievances I just don't care. These religious people are all very strange to me. I try to stay away from them.